Re: Re: Update on our progress/TS

[Guest guest]

We were experiencing the exact same thing with chelation....nothing bad, nothing

good (except for round #1 when he rode a bike for the first time) I was starting

to wonder if it was having any effect at all. I started noticing that my son's

obsessions were actually getting worse. I'd heard that fixations, obsessions,

and OCD type behaviors were related to viruses (so is having words, then losing

them) and I think the chelation was pulling out metals and the viruses were

being exposed. I talked to a few people on this board who also thought this

might be a possibility. I did the high dose Vitamin A protocol for measles

first, and WOW....my son has never responded to anything like that before. This

is when he popped up with the words. Literally, in 2 days there was such a

change in him that my husband and I were shocked. That motivated me to continue

with the viral therapy and we started raising his Vit C and giving OLE and

Virastop. Since I started them all at around the

same time I can't tell you which seemed to bring about these changes, but the

Virastop definetly has had an impact. Each time I raise the dose he gets viral

rashes and some gains. I read somewhere that viral treatments like the Vit C,

OLE, Lysine, and Virastop can work better when given at the same time (as

opposed to only doing one treatment at a time).

I believe that chelation and viral treatments go hand in hand for my son. The

metal being removed from his body allowes the viruses to be exposed, then the

anti-virals can go in and really be effective. I wish you guys the most success

in the world, and you'll hear your son call you dad.....it just feels like it

takes forever!!

Rhapsodist1 <tanveers@...> wrote:

Maggie;

Congratulations! I feel so happy for you and to hear that your son is

recovering. Hearing success stories give so much of encouragement to

people like me who have just started chelating (we're going to start

round #5 of chelation tomorrow). We have not seen any significant

improvement in my son (3.5 years old) but have not seen any regression

or side affects; he's tolerating it pretty well. We're following AC

protocol. From last week we also started OLE.

Maggie, did you start seeing improvement after the introduction of

anti viral (OLE, Virastop) or you were seeing improvement after each

chelation cycle?

I'll keep this forum updated and hopefully one of these days I'll be

telling my side of success story. I am desperately waiting to hear my

son call me dad

Again thanks for sharing your success story and good luck with your

son's complete recovery.

-TS

>

> Hi all. I just wanted to give an update and let you all know how

things have progressed. Last weekend was the 11th round of DMSA/ALA

(25 mgs each) per Andy Cutler protocol. Also, we started viral

protocols about a month ago (higher dose Vit C, OLE, and Virastop).

>

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[Guest guest]

we just bought vit a drops. How do you dose and can you tell me the

protocol?

Ruth

On May 1, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Maggie O'rourke wrote:

> We were experiencing the exact same thing with chelation....nothing

> bad, nothing good (except for round #1 when he rode a bike for the

> first time) I was starting to wonder if it was having any effect at

> all. I started noticing that my son's obsessions were actually

> getting worse. I'd heard that fixations, obsessions, and OCD type

> behaviors were related to viruses (so is having words, then losing

> them) and I think the chelation was pulling out metals and the

> viruses were being exposed. I talked to a few people on this board

> who also thought this might be a possibility. I did the high dose

> Vitamin A protocol for measles first, and WOW....my son has never

> responded to anything like that before. This is when he popped up

> with the words. Literally, in 2 days there was such a change in him

> that my husband and I were shocked. That motivated me to continue

> with the viral therapy and we started raising his Vit C and giving

> OLE and Virastop. Since I started them all at around the

> same time I can't tell you which seemed to bring about these

> changes, but the Virastop definetly has had an impact. Each time I

> raise the dose he gets viral rashes and some gains. I read

> somewhere that viral treatments like the Vit C, OLE, Lysine, and

> Virastop can work better when given at the same time (as opposed to

> only doing one treatment at a time).

>

> I believe that chelation and viral treatments go hand in hand for

> my son. The metal being removed from his body allowes the viruses

> to be exposed, then the anti-virals can go in and really be

> effective. I wish you guys the most success in the world, and

> you'll hear your son call you dad.....it just feels like it takes

> forever!!

>

> Rhapsodist1 <tanveers@...> wrote:

> Maggie;

>

> Congratulations! I feel so happy for you and to hear that your son is

> recovering. Hearing success stories give so much of encouragement to

> people like me who have just started chelating (we're going to start

> round #5 of chelation tomorrow). We have not seen any significant

> improvement in my son (3.5 years old) but have not seen any regression

> or side affects; he's tolerating it pretty well. We're following AC

> protocol. From last week we also started OLE.

>

> Maggie, did you start seeing improvement after the introduction of

> anti viral (OLE, Virastop) or you were seeing improvement after each

> chelation cycle?

>

> I'll keep this forum updated and hopefully one of these days I'll be

> telling my side of success story. I am desperately waiting to hear my

> son call me dad

>

> Again thanks for sharing your success story and good luck with your

> son's complete recovery.

>

> -TS

>

>

> >

> > Hi all. I just wanted to give an update and let you all know how

> things have progressed. Last weekend was the 11th round of DMSA/ALA

> (25 mgs each) per Andy Cutler protocol. Also, we started viral

> protocols about a month ago (higher dose Vit C, OLE, and Virastop).

> >

> >

>

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>

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[Guest guest]

I followed the protocol I found on Dana's page here:

http://www.danasview.net/vitamina.htm

I gave my son 400,000 I.U.'s for 2 days (I gave it once, in the morning) and

then 25,000 I.U.'s for a few days. He did develop a toxicity rash (very itchy

rash all over) so I dropped all Vit A except what he gets in his CLO. All the

gains stayed.

Dan & Ruth Setlak <dan-ruth-setlak@...> wrote:

we just bought vit a drops. How do you dose and can you tell me the

protocol?

Ruth

On May 1, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Maggie O'rourke wrote:

> We were experiencing the exact same thing with chelation....nothing

> bad, nothing good (except for round #1 when he rode a bike for the

> first time) I was starting to wonder if it was having any effect at

> all. I started noticing that my son's obsessions were actually

> getting worse. I'd heard that fixations, obsessions, and OCD type

> behaviors were related to viruses (so is having words, then losing

> them) and I think the chelation was pulling out metals and the

> viruses were being exposed. I talked to a few people on this board

> who also thought this might be a possibility. I did the high dose

> Vitamin A protocol for measles first, and WOW....my son has never

> responded to anything like that before. This is when he popped up

> with the words. Literally, in 2 days there was such a change in him

> that my husband and I were shocked. That motivated me to continue

> with the viral therapy and we started raising his Vit C and giving

> OLE and Virastop. Since I started them all at around the

> same time I can't tell you which seemed to bring about these

> changes, but the Virastop definetly has had an impact. Each time I

> raise the dose he gets viral rashes and some gains. I read

> somewhere that viral treatments like the Vit C, OLE, Lysine, and

> Virastop can work better when given at the same time (as opposed to

> only doing one treatment at a time).

>

> I believe that chelation and viral treatments go hand in hand for

> my son. The metal being removed from his body allowes the viruses

> to be exposed, then the anti-virals can go in and really be

> effective. I wish you guys the most success in the world, and

> you'll hear your son call you dad.....it just feels like it takes

> forever!!

>

> Rhapsodist1 wrote:

> Maggie;

>

> Congratulations! I feel so happy for you and to hear that your son is

> recovering. Hearing success stories give so much of encouragement to

> people like me who have just started chelating (we're going to start

> round #5 of chelation tomorrow). We have not seen any significant

> improvement in my son (3.5 years old) but have not seen any regression

> or side affects; he's tolerating it pretty well. We're following AC

> protocol. From last week we also started OLE.

>

> Maggie, did you start seeing improvement after the introduction of

> anti viral (OLE, Virastop) or you were seeing improvement after each

> chelation cycle?

>

> I'll keep this forum updated and hopefully one of these days I'll be

> telling my side of success story. I am desperately waiting to hear my

> son call me dad

>

> Again thanks for sharing your success story and good luck with your

> son's complete recovery.

>

> -TS

>

>

> >

> > Hi all. I just wanted to give an update and let you all know how

> things have progressed. Last weekend was the 11th round of DMSA/ALA

> (25 mgs each) per Andy Cutler protocol. Also, we started viral

> protocols about a month ago (higher dose Vit C, OLE, and Virastop).

> >

> >

>

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>

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>

[Guest guest]

Unfortunatly, yes, he did have his MMR. In fact, he had all vaccinations until

age 3 1/2 including a flu shot. Even after we got the diagnosis we continued to

vaccinate. It took a long time to get out of denial, and even longer to start

believing in biomedical. I used to think vaccinations had nothing to do with his

autism until I realized after each vax he was getting progressivly worse.

Vit A is only for measles, but all the other anti-virals are good for all

sorts of viruses (whether they be from vaccinations or not)

patriciaa_67 <cpand@...> wrote:

Maggie,

Did your son have the MMR? I'm wondering if hd vit A is only for

MMR vaccinated kids or for other viruses as well.

Congratulations on your son's response!!!!

> > >

> > > Hi all. I just wanted to give an update and let you all know

how

> > things have progressed. Last weekend was the 11th round of

DMSA/ALA

> > (25 mgs each) per Andy Cutler protocol. Also, we started viral

> > protocols about a month ago (higher dose Vit C, OLE, and

Virastop).

> > >

> > >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > =======================================================

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Maggie,

May I ask which which form of vit' A you used for the high dose/how much/how

often?

Vit C- which form/how much/how often?

OLE- how much(equal to dry leaf)/how often?

Virastop-how much/how often?

Donna.

Re: [ ] Re: Update on our progress/TS

We were experiencing the exact same thing with chelation... .nothing bad,

nothing good (except for round #1 when he rode a bike for the first time) I was

starting to wonder if it was having any effect at all. I started noticing that

my son's obsessions were actually getting worse. I'd heard that fixations,

obsessions, and OCD type behaviors were related to viruses (so is having words,

then losing them) and I think the chelation was pulling out metals and the

viruses were being exposed. I talked to a few people on this board who also

thought this might be a possibility. I did the high dose Vitamin A protocol for

measles first, and WOW....my son has never responded to anything like that

before. This is when he popped up with the words. Literally, in 2 days there was

such a change in him that my husband and I were shocked. That motivated me to

continue with the viral therapy and we started raising his Vit C and giving OLE

and Virastop. Since I started them

all at around the

same time I can't tell you which seemed to bring about these changes, but the

Virastop definetly has had an impact. Each time I raise the dose he gets viral

rashes and some gains. I read somewhere that viral treatments like the Vit C,

OLE, Lysine, and Virastop can work better when given at the same time (as

opposed to only doing one treatment at a time).

I believe that chelation and viral treatments go hand in hand for my son. The

metal being removed from his body allowes the viruses to be exposed, then the

anti-virals can go in and really be effective. I wish you guys the most success

in the world, and you'll hear your son call you dad.....it just feels like it

takes forever!!

Rhapsodist1 <tanveers (DOT) com> wrote:

Maggie;

Congratulations! I feel so happy for you and to hear that your son is

recovering. Hearing success stories give so much of encouragement to

people like me who have just started chelating (we're going to start

round #5 of chelation tomorrow). We have not seen any significant

improvement in my son (3.5 years old) but have not seen any regression

or side affects; he's tolerating it pretty well. We're following AC

protocol. From last week we also started OLE.

Maggie, did you start seeing improvement after the introduction of

anti viral (OLE, Virastop) or you were seeing improvement after each

chelation cycle?

I'll keep this forum updated and hopefully one of these days I'll be

telling my side of success story. I am desperately waiting to hear my

son call me dad

Again thanks for sharing your success story and good luck with your

son's complete recovery.

-TS

>

> Hi all. I just wanted to give an update and let you all know how

things have progressed. Last weekend was the 11th round of DMSA/ALA

(25 mgs each) per Andy Cutler protocol. Also, we started viral

protocols about a month ago (higher dose Vit C, OLE, and Virastop).

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Vit A: Ethical Nutrients Mycel Vit A 400,000 I.U.'s for 2 days then 25,000

I.U.'s for 2 months (although we discontinued after just a few days due to

toxicity rash....you can read about this protocol on Dana's page

http://www.danasview.net/vitamina.htm)

Vit C: Kirkman's Buffered Vit C. We're up to about 10,000 mgs a day but I want

to get to around 30,000. I usually put about 2000 mgs in some juice and I try to

give it all throughout the day for best absorbtion

OLE: Paradise Herbs OLE with 18% Oleuropein.. We started at 500mgs and are now

up to 3000 mgs split into 2 doses a day

Virastop: I am doing the stair-step approach with this protocol that I read

about here http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionviruses.htm. It's about a 2 month

protocol. I started by giving 1 VS 3 x daily and am now up to 7 VS 3x daily .

Best advice I was given for this protocol....ADD CANDIDASE!!

All of the products I mentioned (except for the Kirkman's Vit C) I get at

Whole Foods or another Health food store.

Donna Bowerman <donna12345au@...> wrote:

Hi Maggie,

May I ask which which form of vit' A you used for the high dose/how much/how

often?

Vit C- which form/how much/how often?

OLE- how much(equal to dry leaf)/how often?

Virastop-how much/how often?

Donna.

Re: [ ] Re: Update on our progress/TS

We were experiencing the exact same thing with chelation... .nothing bad,

nothing good (except for round #1 when he rode a bike for the first time) I was

starting to wonder if it was having any effect at all. I started noticing that

my son's obsessions were actually getting worse. I'd heard that fixations,

obsessions, and OCD type behaviors were related to viruses (so is having words,

then losing them) and I think the chelation was pulling out metals and the

viruses were being exposed. I talked to a few people on this board who also

thought this might be a possibility. I did the high dose Vitamin A protocol for

measles first, and WOW....my son has never responded to anything like that

before. This is when he popped up with the words. Literally, in 2 days there was

such a change in him that my husband and I were shocked. That motivated me to

continue with the viral therapy and we started raising his Vit C and giving OLE

and Virastop. Since I started them

all at around the

same time I can't tell you which seemed to bring about these changes, but the

Virastop definetly has had an impact. Each time I raise the dose he gets viral

rashes and some gains. I read somewhere that viral treatments like the Vit C,

OLE, Lysine, and Virastop can work better when given at the same time (as

opposed to only doing one treatment at a time).

I believe that chelation and viral treatments go hand in hand for my son. The

metal being removed from his body allowes the viruses to be exposed, then the

anti-virals can go in and really be effective. I wish you guys the most success

in the world, and you'll hear your son call you dad.....it just feels like it

takes forever!!

Rhapsodist1 wrote:

Maggie;

Congratulations! I feel so happy for you and to hear that your son is

recovering. Hearing success stories give so much of encouragement to

people like me who have just started chelating (we're going to start

round #5 of chelation tomorrow). We have not seen any significant

improvement in my son (3.5 years old) but have not seen any regression

or side affects; he's tolerating it pretty well. We're following AC

protocol. From last week we also started OLE.

Maggie, did you start seeing improvement after the introduction of

anti viral (OLE, Virastop) or you were seeing improvement after each

chelation cycle?

I'll keep this forum updated and hopefully one of these days I'll be

telling my side of success story. I am desperately waiting to hear my

son call me dad

Again thanks for sharing your success story and good luck with your

son's complete recovery.

-TS

>

> Hi all. I just wanted to give an update and let you all know how

things have progressed. Last weekend was the 11th round of DMSA/ALA

(25 mgs each) per Andy Cutler protocol. Also, we started viral

protocols about a month ago (higher dose Vit C, OLE, and Virastop).

>

>

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