Re: Dose 5 of the 1st ALA round, my son is SO hyper! OMG

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I believe it is very important to have a good yeast protocol in place before

starting ALA, even if the child shows no symptoms of yeast. I did this with my

son, and have kept doing so twice a day with a good probiotic supplement and

OLE...I have found the probiotic boulardii to be of extra importance. My son

has only shown 1 episode of yeast flare up(spinning in circles, laughing at

nothing in particular, almost 'drunk like'), which was amazingly gone after

doubling his probiotics and OLE for a day, not saying this will be the case for

you, but if it gets too bad, stop the round and get his gut in order.

Donna.

[ ] Dose 5 of the 1st ALA round, my son is SO hyper! OMG

He is VERY happy, laughing, squealing, playing, running around wide

awake even after an increased dose of melatonin.

Even my older (serious boy) one is joining in... he got off his video

game on his own to come downstairs and pillow fight the little one. I

just keep telling myself that at least, if they stay up all night,

it'll be easier for me to do the night doses...

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I thought I had it under control, his behavior was

doing SO good. He's been on homeopathic candida drops

since August. He was on a probiotic since Nov 06.

But we changed to VSL3 and added Sacc B on Oct 22, 07.

I added biotin 3 weeks ago (this had no apparent

effect on him). His December OAT showed high

arabinose and oxalic acid, but his stool showed no

yeast. So, I thought that meant possible candida. I

have him on low sugar, GFCFSF and we're watching the

fruits.

I just ordered some GSE and OLE and yeast guard

(trial) with other supp's, on Friday.

I'll see how he is today.

--- Donna Bowerman <donna12345au@...> wrote:

> I believe it is very important to have a good yeast

> protocol in place before starting ALA, even if the

> child shows no symptoms of yeast. I did this with

> my son, and have kept doing so twice a day with a

> good probiotic supplement and OLE...I have found the

> probiotic boulardii to be of extra importance. My

> son has only shown 1 episode of yeast flare

> up(spinning in circles, laughing at nothing in

> particular, almost 'drunk like'), which was

> amazingly gone after doubling his probiotics and OLE

> for a day, not saying this will be the case for you,

> but if it gets too bad, stop the round and get his

> gut in order.

> Donna.

>

>

> [ ] Dose 5 of the 1st ALA

> round, my son is SO hyper! OMG

>

> He is VERY happy, laughing, squealing, playing,

> running around wide

> awake even after an increased dose of melatonin.

>

> Even my older (serious boy) one is joining in... he

> got off his video

> game on his own to come downstairs and pillow fight

> the little one. I

> just keep telling myself that at least, if they stay

> up all night,

> it'll be easier for me to do the night doses...

>

>

>

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> He is VERY happy, laughing, squealing, playing, running around wide

> awake even after an increased dose of melatonin.

Definitely try increasing the yeast protocol.

Dana

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He's up and around, ate breakfast - he's back to his

normal self. So far! I'm gonna try giving him more

enzymes and breaking his yeast regimen into smaller

more frequent doses today.

--- " Amy W. Osborne " <amesw@...> wrote:

> I thought I had it under control, his behavior was

> doing SO good. He's been on homeopathic candida

> drops

> since August. He was on a probiotic since Nov 06.

> But we changed to VSL3 and added Sacc B on Oct 22,

> 07.

> I added biotin 3 weeks ago (this had no apparent

> effect on him). His December OAT showed high

> arabinose and oxalic acid, but his stool showed no

> yeast. So, I thought that meant possible candida.

> I

> have him on low sugar, GFCFSF and we're watching the

> fruits.

>

> I just ordered some GSE and OLE and yeast guard

> (trial) with other supp's, on Friday.

>

> I'll see how he is today.

>

> --- Donna Bowerman <donna12345au@...>

> wrote:

>

> > I believe it is very important to have a good

> yeast

> > protocol in place before starting ALA, even if the

> > child shows no symptoms of yeast. I did this with

> > my son, and have kept doing so twice a day with a

> > good probiotic supplement and OLE...I have found

> the

> > probiotic boulardii to be of extra importance. My

> > son has only shown 1 episode of yeast flare

> > up(spinning in circles, laughing at nothing in

> > particular, almost 'drunk like'), which was

> > amazingly gone after doubling his probiotics and

> OLE

> > for a day, not saying this will be the case for

> you,

> > but if it gets too bad, stop the round and get his

> > gut in order.

> > Donna.

> >

> >

> > [ ] Dose 5 of the 1st ALA

> > round, my son is SO hyper! OMG

> >

> > He is VERY happy, laughing, squealing, playing,

> > running around wide

> > awake even after an increased dose of melatonin.

> >

> > Even my older (serious boy) one is joining in...

> he

> > got off his video

> > game on his own to come downstairs and pillow

> fight

> > the little one. I

> > just keep telling myself that at least, if they

> stay

> > up all night,

> > it'll be easier for me to do the night doses...

> >

> >

> >

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I don't have a yeast protocol in place for my son and after thinking about how

my son is during chelation weekends, we need to look into yeast. Where do I

begin? What do we start off with? Do you kill off the good yeast and the bad?

Does the bad yeast come back quicker than the good?

[ ] Re: Dose 5 of the 1st ALA round, my son is SO hyper!

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> He is VERY happy, laughing, squealing, playing, running around wide

> awake even after an increased dose of melatonin.

Definitely try increasing the yeast protocol.

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Maybe someone else has better protocol, here is what

we are doing:

vsl3 1/2 packet per day (was 1/8 per day per our DAN

but it wasn't doing enough)

Sacc B 1/2 capsule per day

Digestive enzymes with all foods and 2X/day on empty

stomach

biotin sprinkled on foods 2 X per day

I'm trying to break them up throughout the day.

With all these meds, its a good thing he doesn't like

to eat too much food at one time

The hyper was only a couple of hours the first day,

granted it was pretty bad for us we definitely

noticed, but he was fine the entire second day and

he's up doing great this morning.

--- Selavka <stacylynncollins@...>

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> I don't have a yeast protocol in place for my son

> and after thinking about how my son is during

> chelation weekends, we need to look into yeast.

> Where do I begin? What do we start off with? Do

> you kill off the good yeast and the bad? Does the

> bad yeast come back quicker than the good?

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> I don't have a yeast protocol in place for my son and after thinking

about how my son is during chelation weekends, we need to look into

yeast. Where do I begin? What do we start off with? Do you kill off

the good yeast and the bad? Does the bad yeast come back quicker than

the good?

At my house, giving a sufficient dose of biotin was about 90% of the

yeast protocol. Then, adding a small amount of GSE [more was required

for certain protocols] when the yeast did flare. That was really all

that was needed. I did use Candidase for a while also.

More ideas here

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info Dana. One question I have is when I went into the Vitamin

Shoppe to purchase biotin, I couldn't find it so I asked the sales gal and she

said it was a B vitamin and to check that area. I did find it but how does B

help with yeast?

[ ] Re: Dose 5 of the 1st ALA round, my son is SO hyper!

OMG

> I don't have a yeast protocol in place for my son and after thinking

about how my son is during chelation weekends, we need to look into

yeast. Where do I begin? What do we start off with? Do you kill off

the good yeast and the bad? Does the bad yeast come back quicker than

the good?

At my house, giving a sufficient dose of biotin was about 90% of the

yeast protocol. Then, adding a small amount of GSE [more was required

for certain protocols] when the yeast did flare. That was really all

that was needed. I did use Candidase for a while also.

More ideas here

http://www.danasvie w.net/yeast. htm

Dana

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> Thanks for the info Dana. One question I have is when I went into

the Vitamin Shoppe to purchase biotin, I couldn't find it so I asked

the sales gal and she said it was a B vitamin and to check that area.

I did find it but how does B help with yeast?

It is the only B vitamin, in my experience, that does not tend to

increase yeast. In fact, it is what the body uses to control yeast.

Sometimes I have read it referred to as vitamin H.

It is made by the good bacteria in the gut, and also is present in

certain foods.

Dana

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Dana,

How much Biotin did you give? My son is 36 pounds.

Thank you!

> >

> > Thanks for the info Dana. One question I have is when I went

into

> the Vitamin Shoppe to purchase biotin, I couldn't find it so I

asked

> the sales gal and she said it was a B vitamin and to check that

area.

> I did find it but how does B help with yeast?

>

>

> It is the only B vitamin, in my experience, that does not tend to

> increase yeast. In fact, it is what the body uses to control

yeast.

> Sometimes I have read it referred to as vitamin H.

>

> It is made by the good bacteria in the gut, and also is present in

> certain foods.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> Dana,

> How much Biotin did you give? My son is 36 pounds.

I started with 400mcg and worked up. At the highest, my son [he was

10 at the time] needed 20mg 3x per day.

Dana