Re: Does Milk Thistle affect glutathione levels?

[Guest guest]

I don't know about that but I know a plant that definitely does raise

glutathione and that is broadleaved dock (Rumex obtusifolius). In the US

there is a tincture available. I suffer from multiple chemical sensitivity.

It's a condition with a pronounced lack of glutathione.

A good alternative is the curly leaved dock (Rumex crispus), widely used in

homeopathy. Weleda Germany produces a tincture of that: Rumex crispus D1.

An Irish herbalist told me she uses dock to detox MERCURY from dental

amalgam.

From my own experience know that it also has an effect on the hormone level,

it helps go get rid of menopausal problems.

As dock detoxes not only mercury but other environmental poisons e.g.

insecticides and it also balances the hormone levels i.e helps to increase

estrogen and progesterone it may be a very powerful remedy to treat autism,

where usually a too high amount of testosterone is found.

BUT: The taste is awful, so please don't try to force it on anyone. Best mix

the drops into juice.

In Ireland, where I live, dock is one of the most vigorous weeds, hated by

farmers. In ads for herbicides the chemical companies praise their strongest

poisons as " Dock Control " .

Dock can help farmers that have pesticides poisoning to get out of a

depression. Depression is usually regarded as a mental problem that is

treated with mind-altering drugs. Anti-depressants often make matters worse.

Instead of getting into the clutches of psychiatrists, farmers could use

dock, if only they knew that the remedy that could help them grows in their

fields. (I've been trying to get the word out for a while.)

Then dock could really be doc-control.

With the best of luck and please give me some feedback if you find dock

makes a difference.

Dorothee

http://abchomeopathy.com/shop.php

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On 1/14/08, kastout24 <kastout24@...> wrote:

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> anybody know? does it raise glutathione, or just protect it?

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> thanks

> scott

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[Guest guest]

I wanted to know this too - milk thistle is a very basic herb at our

house....and I am familiar with the glutathione connection, but, at

the same time, I was not able to recall ANY details at all

soooo....browsed & skimmed some quick search results & as I

understand it, milk thistle seems mostly protective, tho' more than

one site stated that glutathione levels " can " be raised, as a result

of taking milk thistle....sounds like it (silymarin, sp?) helps the

liver cells either bounce the crud off cell wall, or helps them

recover...or both.

sooo, it appears that milk thistle is more protective of glutathione

in the liver cells, (also) sparing " other " glutathione sources...but

is also capable of raising glutathione levels in and of itself.

fwiw, I used " glutathione " " metabolism " " milk " " thistle " ...for basic

google/ search...opened & skimmed the first few " hits. " didn't

try to find abstracts, studies, fave sites, etc....

wishing you the best answers

elizabeth

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> anybody know? does it raise glutathione, or just protect it?

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> thanks

> scott

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[Guest guest]

thanks for the responses.

i actually take milk thistle and have good luck with it.. it makes

my liver feel normal, because i had a doc suggest a liver flush to

me which KILLED me.. and milk thistle always brings everything back

into line.. (and no i don't have hepatitis viral or otherwise)

but i'm still not sure if it does indeed raise glutathione levels..

i would have taken glutathione but i heard that it is poorly

absorbed by the body that way or utilized rather.. though i'm not

saying this is for everybody, glutathione supps may help a ton for

some people.. just i've always read different.

thanks all.

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> My environmental doctor had me pull milk thistle out of my son's

diet. We supplement glutathione at 500 mg per dose, 3 X per day

extremely successfully. Works wonderfully on my 13 year old but he

is a low sulphate kid and his body just sucks up any type of sulpher

product.

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> I cannot remember my docs. exact words but he indicated that milk

thistle actually kind of clogs up the liver and is not so good for

our kids. (I had started supplementing prior to seeing him). I may

not have this exactly right but his words made complete sense to me

at the time for he had validated what I had read but indicated that

for our kids.... it is not so good....

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> I trust this guy. He is very, very wise and wonderful.

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> I tossed my bottle and never looked back.

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[Guest guest]

My environmental doctor had me pull milk thistle out of my son's diet. We

supplement glutathione at 500 mg per dose, 3 X per day extremely successfully.

Works wonderfully on my 13 year old but he is a low sulphate kid and his body

just sucks up any type of sulpher product.

I cannot remember my docs. exact words but he indicated that milk thistle

actually kind of clogs up the liver and is not so good for our kids. (I had

started supplementing prior to seeing him). I may not have this exactly right

but his words made complete sense to me at the time for he had validated what I

had read but indicated that for our kids.... it is not so good....

I trust this guy. He is very, very wise and wonderful.

I tossed my bottle and never looked back.