Re: 1st day round 1 ALA - cold & not herself

[Guest guest]

Now she's feeling sick, like she needs to throw up. She's laying on

the couch under blankets feeling ill. I doubt I'll get anymore into

her today now anyway, but I wonder if the round should even be

continued for her? Is this a " normal " reaction?

Someone please let me know quickly please...

Thanks, Michele

>

> My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx 12mg).

She

> is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She also

> seems lethargic & out of sorts.

>

> Normal???

>

> Please advise!

>

> Thanks, Michele

>

[Guest guest]

Has she been on DMSA at all, or is this her first ever dose of a chelator. If

so, I believe the first couple of doses could make a child feel a bit ill. I

would give her plenty to drink and something light to eat and see how she feels

when you get to the next dose. I wouldnt personally give up so soon but go with

your gut instinct. I dont know if this is fact or not but I did read on the ARI

websight that the first few doses of DMSA DO actually pull some minerals. Maybe

its the same with ALA. Also did she eat before the dose?

[ ] Re: 1st day round 1 ALA - cold & not herself

Now she's feeling sick, like she needs to throw up. She's laying on

the couch under blankets feeling ill. I doubt I'll get anymore into

her today now anyway, but I wonder if the round should even be

continued for her? Is this a " normal " reaction?

Someone please let me know quickly please...

Thanks, Michele

>

> My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx 12mg).

She

> is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She also

> seems lethargic & out of sorts.

>

> Normal???

>

> Please advise!

>

> Thanks, Michele

>

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No DMSA or anything else; first chelator ever. Just 1 dose ALA (appx

12mg).

Not giving up, but if she's this ill, not sure should continue. Also,

if she's sick, she won't eat or drink anything. She had a sip of

water, but now is sleeping.

She had the ALA in her juice cup with her other supps this morning,

while eating breakfast. That's typically the way we do supps here

(the only way I can with some of the kids).

Thanks, Michele

> >

> > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx 12mg).

> She

> > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She also

> > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> >

> > Normal???

> >

> > Please advise!

> >

> > Thanks, Michele

> >

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Actually she's not sleeping, just laying on the couch feeling very

awful; moaning a bit...

Michele

> > >

> > > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx

12mg).

> > She

> > > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She

also

> > > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> > >

> > > Normal???

> > >

> > > Please advise!

> > >

> > > Thanks, Michele

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

I do the same with mine. I have only done 3 rounds with my 20/m old son so I am

not an expert but I do think the first few doses, even though small, can

probably make a child feel a bit ill. My son didnt react that way, but he had 4

bowel movements in the first 24 hrs ...Does she have other toxic metal problems

besides mercury? Also try to give her some of her minerals in between rounds if

you get there : ) I know Dana did this.

[ ] Re: 1st day round 1 ALA - cold & not herself

No DMSA or anything else; first chelator ever. Just 1 dose ALA (appx

12mg).

Not giving up, but if she's this ill, not sure should continue. Also,

if she's sick, she won't eat or drink anything. She had a sip of

water, but now is sleeping.

She had the ALA in her juice cup with her other supps this morning,

while eating breakfast. That's typically the way we do supps here

(the only way I can with some of the kids).

Thanks, Michele

> >

> > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx 12mg).

> She

> > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She also

> > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> >

> > Normal???

> >

> > Please advise!

> >

> > Thanks, Michele

> >

>

>

>

>

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She won't take anything but a bit of water right now. I don't know if

she'll feel better by lunch either, or in time to get another dose in

some juice. Right now she wants nothing she feels so lousy.

My 9yr had the same this morning, so did 2 yo, but they are fine.

(Her hair test is in the files section - 4 kids file 13yo, 9yo, 5yo,

2yo)

Thx,

Michele

> > >

> > > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx

12mg).

> > She

> > > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She

also

> > > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> > >

> > > Normal???

> > >

> > > Please advise!

> > >

> > > Thanks, Michele

> > >

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She's feeling a bit feverish too...

Michele

> > > >

> > > > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx

> 12mg).

> > > She

> > > > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She

> also

> > > > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> > > >

> > > > Normal???

> > > >

> > > > Please advise!

> > > >

> > > > Thanks, Michele

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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How much dose your daughter weigh? Maybe 12.5 was too much to start her with.I

would try to continue the round if possible. I know you can go 1/2 hr past the 3

hrs if needed sometimes, so maybe give her that extra 1/2 hr? Hopefully someone

else with lots of experience will chime in. : )

[ ] Re: 1st day round 1 ALA - cold & not herself

She won't take anything but a bit of water right now. I don't know if

she'll feel better by lunch either, or in time to get another dose in

some juice. Right now she wants nothing she feels so lousy.

My 9yr had the same this morning, so did 2 yo, but they are fine.

(Her hair test is in the files section - 4 kids file 13yo, 9yo, 5yo,

2yo)

Thx,

Michele

> > >

> > > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx

12mg).

> > She

> > > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She

also

> > > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> > >

> > > Normal???

> > >

> > > Please advise!

> > >

> > > Thanks, Michele

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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How much does she weigh? My dd was 4 1/4 when we started and we began

with a dose of 7 mg ALA, then dropped it down to 5 mg for the next

round because the side effects were too much. The first few rounds can

be tough if you start with a dose that is too high. It does get a lot

better though. Now at 71 rounds mine is up to 20 mg ALA and does fine

with that, it just takes some time and increasing the dose in very

small increments.

Good luck!

Sheresa

>

> My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx 12mg). She

> is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She also

> seems lethargic & out of sorts.

>

> Normal???

>

> Please advise!

>

> Thanks, Michele

>

[Guest guest]

Probably somewhere around 45lbs... she's 5-1/2. Is there something I

can do for her? Should I end this round?

Michele

> >

> > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx 12mg).

She

> > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She also

> > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> >

> > Normal???

> >

> > Please advise!

> >

> > Thanks, Michele

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My 30lb 29m old got 10mg this morning; he's fine so far thankfully.

Was 12ish mg too much for a 45lb 5-1/2yo??

Appreciating help right now!

Thx, Michele

> >

> > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx 12mg).

She

> > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She also

> > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> >

> > Normal???

> >

> > Please advise!

> >

> > Thanks, Michele

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Can you try giving some activated charcoal? Also, is she

constipated?

TamiW

Gavin's mom

> > >

> > > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx

12mg).

> She

> > > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She

also

> > > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> > >

> > > Normal???

> > >

> > > Please advise!

> > >

> > > Thanks, Michele

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

we just completed our first round and didn't see this reaction

[ ] Re: 1st day round 1 ALA - cold & not herself

Now she's feeling sick, like she needs to throw up. She's laying on

the couch under blankets feeling ill. I doubt I'll get anymore into

her today now anyway, but I wonder if the round should even be

continued for her? Is this a " normal " reaction?

Someone please let me know quickly please...

Thanks, Michele

>

> My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx 12mg).

She

> is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She also

> seems lethargic & out of sorts.

>

> Normal???

>

> Please advise!

>

> Thanks, Michele

>

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[Guest guest]

I put a cap in a bit of water; she drank very little (a few sips).

She tasted it & wouldn't drink any more. She's sleeping now. Don't

know about constipated yet.

Michele

> > > >

> > > > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx

> 12mg).

> > She

> > > > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She

> also

> > > > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> > > >

> > > > Normal???

> > > >

> > > > Please advise!

> > > >

> > > > Thanks, Michele

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think I would probably stop and let her recover until the next

round. Maybe next time lower the dose. I give my son DMSA only. I

have noticed at times him feeling a little warmer than usual but he's

never lethargic.

Amy

> > > > >

> > > > > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx

> > 12mg).

> > > > She

> > > > > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater.

She

> > also

> > > > > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> > > > >

> > > > > Normal???

> > > > >

> > > > > Please advise!

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks, Michele

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

I probably would, especially if she's feverish. You could make that

determination on how she feels when it is time for her next dose. It

may just be coincidence and that she's coming down with something at

the same time you started the ALA, but if it were my child I would

start her next round at a much lower dose like 5 mg. If she does

fine with that you can move it up a bit. It's good to be very

conservative in the beginning until you see how they will react to

the ALA.

I hope she feels better and do let us know.

Sheresa

> > >

> > > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx

12mg).

> She

> > > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She

also

> > > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> > >

> > > Normal???

> > >

> > > Please advise!

> > >

> > > Thanks, Michele

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This is what it says in the A-M FAQ's

Q: I've started chelating and my child is having bad side effects.

What can I do?

Some side effects that list members have reported include increased

urination, redness of the face and extremities, rash, heartburn, and

diarrhea. Your child may also show an increase in autistic symptoms

(may become more " stimmy " or show more oppositional behavior). If the

side effects are severe or difficult to deal with, stop the cycle and

allow a rest time, then start the next cycle with a lower dosage. You

may also want to try a shorter chelation cycle, with a larger rest

period in between

Amy

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx

> > > 12mg).

> > > > > She

> > > > > > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater.

> She

> > > also

> > > > > > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Normal???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please advise!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks, Michele

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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> > >

> > > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx 12mg).

> She

> > > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She also

> > > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> > >

> > > Normal???

> > >

> > > Please advise!

> > >

> > > Thanks, Michele

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

She's drinking some water, but she threw up so I don't think she'll

be getting anymore supps today. (especially since I can barely get

anything into her on a good day). I will try again next week at 5mg.

I'll also lower her little brother's dose, just in case, even though

he's doing well so far.

Thanks, Michele

> > > >

> > > > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx

12mg).

> > She

> > > > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She

also

> > > > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> > > >

> > > > Normal???

> > > >

> > > > Please advise!

> > > >

> > > > Thanks, Michele

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I wonder if you have a yeast protocol in place.

The cold hands and feet can be due to Hypoglycemia. Hypoglycemia can

be caused by arabinose, a yeast metabolite.

I would make sure a yeast protocol is in place before the next round.

For now, I would give her some juice or some sort of sugar.

Kaylee

> > > > >

> > > > > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx

> > 12mg).

> > > She

> > > > > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater.

She

> > also

> > > > > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> > > > >

> > > > > Normal???

> > > > >

> > > > > Please advise!

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks, Michele

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

She gets 2500mcg biotin, Custom Probiotics & 1 pkt Threelac everyday.

She's been sleeping all day, not eating, just drinking water. She's

just now trying to have some dry cereal.

Michele

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx

> > > 12mg).

> > > > She

> > > > > > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater.

> She

> > > also

> > > > > > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Normal???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please advise!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks, Michele

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , I've never heard that. to my knowledge. One dose of ALA

?? so.

she may be already have been coming down with a bug or germie? For my

kids, I'd stop the round, snuggle her up , let her sleep and get lot of

fluids in her etc..

Sorry to hear she sick, hope she feels better soon, A

[Guest guest]

The symptoms sound very adrenal. Chelation is stress and can make

adrenal problems more apparent (happened to me when I started). Her

hair test is very suggestive of adrenal problems and that pattern

usually means there are thyroid problems, too. ACE and licorice are

good for the adrenal part.

I agree with others about reducing the dose next time.

When her stomach is feeling better, getting some vitamin C and B5

into her might help both with the adrenal part and with

redistribution.

For the other kids, I would not change their dose mid-round. If

they seem okay, stick with it.

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>

> My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx 12mg). She

> is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She also

> seems lethargic & out of sorts.

>

> Normal???

>

> Please advise!

>

> Thanks, Michele

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks; I don't think so as everyone else is fine & she was fine up

until that one dose this morning.I noticed her go downhill pretty

quickly after breakfast (after she finished her supps). I'll start over

next round with a lower dose & hope/pray things go better.

Michele

>

>

>

> Hi , I've never heard that. to my knowledge. One dose of ALA

> ?? so.

> she may be already have been coming down with a bug or germie? For my

> kids, I'd stop the round, snuggle her up , let her sleep and get lot

of

> fluids in her etc..

> Sorry to hear she sick, hope she feels better soon, A

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I already lowered it for my 2yo, but he still seems fine. Maybe I

should discuss the adrenal/thyroid issues before starting chelation

again? I don't think I can get her to give blood (well we'd have to

force it). She's also tough to get things into, so I have to pick &

choose for supplements carefully.

THanks, Michele

> >

> > My 5-1/2 dd had ALA for the first time this morning (appx 12mg).

She

> > is very, very cold & needed socks, slippers & a sweater. She also

> > seems lethargic & out of sorts.

> >

> > Normal???

> >

> > Please advise!

> >

> > Thanks, Michele

> >

>