RE: Re: Any news from Garden of Life - Primal Defense?

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I phoned Garden of Life and they told me they have NO assays they will send out.

They assured me that the lead content of their product either met or is less

than the FDC regulates, but when I asked what that level was, they couldn't tell

me and I'm awaiting word from them. I don't think you will get an answer on this

one and should probably use the Independent Lab values that I provided in the

one email as representative of the lead content in Primal Defense. The lady who

posted this is a reliable source, IMO.

Mark Schauss told me a long time ago that if a company won't give an assay, it's

not a good sign.

However, per the lab report we have on this product, knowing that the Lead

content is 7. something mgs per kg, what does that tell me? I have no idea what

kind of lead you might be getting in an average serving of this product. Or how

much it might accumulatively be if you were using it daily.

Maybe will get some better answers, it's quite possible. If an insurance

company doesn't give me the answer I want today, I just call them the next day

and many times I get the answer I want.

Re: [ ] Re: Any news from Garden of Life - Primal

Defense?

Well, PD is a SBO (soil based organisms) pro-biotics. Although the best form

of pro-biotics known, it can contain metals if the harvesting soil is not free

of radicals. Some companies say that their soil is scrutinized before used and

the SBO pro-biotics is grown in a controlled environment. When or

someone else asked for proof of that the company did not provide the proof on

paper. I am also another person waiting for the facts on this one.

bbrowne123 <bbrowne123@...> wrote: what discussion? primal defence has

lead in it?

please advise what the word is on this please

thanks

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> I was watching this discussion with great interest since my son had

a

> high lead result on his hair test and although I found lead paint on

> his bedroom window frame, I also had been putting Primal Defense

> powder in him from when he was about 7 months and starting solid

food

> until about 3 or 3.5. :-(

>

> I have been out of the stuff for awhile, and planned to get some

more

> until I read this.

>

> He never was the kind of kid that mouthed things, so I wondered how

so

> much lead managed to get into him from the window - but of course

if I

> was putting it directly into him via the probiotic that would

explain it.

>

> Has anyone at GoL gotten back to people about their queries? I was

> trying not to have everyone pestering them about this so I have not

> contacted them directly. But now can I possibly get some more info

> from those of you that know about this physician/parent who had the

> stuff assayed etc, so I can see if I verify it etc.?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

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If you lived in a 120 yo home, you also have to wonder what was in the

plumbing. Lead used to be used in all the soldering, the brass fittings,

and perhaps more. The word for lead in French is " plomb, " and the word

" plumbing " comes from the same root if I'm not mistaken.

Dean

Re: [ ] Re: Any news from Garden of Life - Primal

Defense?

My son also tested and he's still high on lead but much better after

chelation. When he was a baby we lived in a 120yo home. Old but beautiful

and the Queen n of the neighborhood. Only because it's my son's

health that I gave up on that house. Anyway, we had the house tested and

lead was found only in one room upstairs and never had access to that

room. When he was 3 yo the development pede sent us to a hematologist at

Children's Hospital for some Iv chelation because his lead was at 18 allowed

<9, this was the conventional blood test from Children's Hospital. The

hematologist said he could not do it because my son's severe asthma and many

ear infections and other immune problems. Well you get the picture. He

actually said that chelation could kill my fragile child and he did not want

to be responsible.

Today I know where all the lead comes from. When I look at old pictures I

see that almost all the toys and bouncers, swings etc... from his pictures

are the recalled toys containing excessive amount of lead. My son got lead

from his toys, including Tomas the Tank and others.

For the old queen beauty! I got it sold to a family with no little kids,

for a good price, so we could build an environmentally safe home. We did a

lot of things in this new house recommended by Dr. Rapp's book and got a DAN

along with diet.

Our son was so sick at the time that even our DAN said chelation needed to

wait until he got a little better. He did, and Oral DMSA was the only

chelation that he could tolerate with no major problems. He still high on

lead, but much less now. For the hematologist? He had no clue how to do

chelation! I'm gad I did not listed to him. After DAN and some chelation my

son is verbal and conversational today. But the fight against yeast goes on.

I used my gut judgment and I'm glad for that.

Leigh

stephaniesirr <mark.grabiec@...> wrote:

my son has had about half a pot of primal defense in his whole life,

in fact, probably a quarter. He also manages to be sky high in lead

despite no lead paint, no lead around our house that any lead test has

shown up (other than a mild response to one stripped door, in a whole

house) and not living in a particularly environmentally toxic area.

It's not necessarily just the lead they're exposed to, it's what they

do with it when they are. My son does not naturally excrete it well

on his own. No idea what the outcome of this will be (why can't PD

just be tested using a lead tester, for example? I have a spare in the

cupboard) but presume with everything you are weighing up the kick

starting of their natural process vs pollution.

FWIW

Steph

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> >

> > I was watching this discussion with great interest since my son had

> a

> > high lead result on his hair test and although I found lead paint on

> > his bedroom window frame, I also had been putting Primal Defense

> > powder in him from when he was about 7 months and starting solid

> food

> > until about 3 or 3.5. :-(

> >

> > I have been out of the stuff for awhile, and planned to get some

> more

> > until I read this.

> >

> > He never was the kind of kid that mouthed things, so I wondered how

> so

> > much lead managed to get into him from the window - but of course

> if I

> > was putting it directly into him via the probiotic that would

> explain it.

> >

> > Has anyone at GoL gotten back to people about their queries? I was

> > trying not to have everyone pestering them about this so I have not

> > contacted them directly. But now can I possibly get some more info

> > from those of you that know about this physician/parent who had the

> > stuff assayed etc, so I can see if I verify it etc.?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

>

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