RE: arsenic poisoning.....where are we getting it

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In a message dated 07/01/2008 19:35:28 GMT Standard Time,

HISSPECIALTOUCH@... writes:

I am trying to figure out where we are getting poisoned from

arsenic

>>Do you juice whole apples? I heard there was arsenic in the pips but I

don;t know for sure

Mandi x

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If I recall correctly we have arsenic in our drinking water and a few years ago

the current administration allowed the amount considered " safe " to be raised.

How many parts per mil. I don't know.

In Orange County where I live they just implemented the " Toilet to Tap "

program....and yes, it means exactly what it says. They " clean " (using

god-knows-what chemicals) used toilet water and then it comes out your kitchen

sink or shower! Wow, let's all have a tall glass of water a nice shower thinking

about that one!

My DH will be going to the hardware store tonight for faucet and shower

filters.

Mum231ASD@... wrote:

In a message dated 07/01/2008 19:35:28 GMT Standard Time,

HISSPECIALTOUCH@... writes:

I am trying to figure out where we are getting poisoned from

arsenic

>>Do you juice whole apples? I heard there was arsenic in the pips but I

don;t know for sure

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

And there is also potentially rice as reported in a recent study that

found elevated levels of arsenic in rice and rice-derived products. If

I remember correctly, the study said that babies fed rice milk &

children with rice-centric diets had the highest risks.

[Guest guest]

>

> I am trying to figure out where we are getting poisoned from

> arsenic....we have no new construction...did have some paneling put

> up...but nutting else....but I am sure that there is more than that

> now....besides chelation, how do we get rid of it....was looking at

> Andy's book and see that folic and several methylators are supposed to

> help? Does MSM help also? Trying to figure this one out.

>

> Thanks

> Ronni

>

Ronni,

Do you have any of the old pressure-treated wood in any of the

structures in your yard? Or do your kids play in a playground that

has pressure-treated wood in it?

I know you've probably thought of those things already, but I wanted

to bring them up just in case you have not.........

Good luck

--Kellie

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as well as much store bought chicken and all fast food chicken. I have

heard grapes also, but not 100% on that one. But only use organic

chicken for sure. Not sure if already mentioned, but any wooden decks &

playground equipment.

>

> And there is also potentially rice as reported in a recent study that

> found elevated levels of arsenic in rice and rice-derived products. If

> I remember correctly, the study said that babies fed rice milk &

> children with rice-centric diets had the highest risks.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> This is horrifying! My husband built my boys a swing set from some type of

treated wood

last year and we have a deck that they play on. Is there a way to help them

detoxify better

because it sounds like it is just every where and cannot be avoided. My poor

boys!

Can you find out what kind of treated wood? I tore the deck off my house to get

rid of the

arsenic-treated wood and replaced it with cedar.

Nell

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I don't know, but after I get through de toxing my

house i'm afraid I'll never want to move and go

through it again. my heart skipped a beat when i read

your post... can't even think about that yet even

though I really want to move

--- Leigh leighcpe <lleighcpe@...> wrote:

> I have to jump in this thread! I'm just about to

> move into a new house and besides arsenic and

> formaldehyde, what else could become a problem for

> my son? I have the same question! Should I

> supplement with MSM, and what else? TIA Leigh

> Note: I am going to bake the house for 2 days and

> then air it out before we move in, but I need some

> more advise on this one. We have hard woods all

> through out the first floor, in the master and my

> son's bedroom. We also requested an electric stove.

> Thanks again!

>

> ronnimike <HISSPECIALTOUCH@...> wrote:

> I am trying to figure out where we are

> getting poisoned from

> arsenic....we have no new construction...did have

> some paneling put

> up...but nutting else....but I am sure that there is

> more than that

> now....besides chelation, how do we get rid of

> it....was looking at

> Andy's book and see that folic and several

> methylators are supposed to

> help? Does MSM help also? Trying to figure this one

> out.

>

> Thanks

> Ronni

>

>

>

>

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" ... a man-made, organic form of arsenic called Roxarsone is often

used by the poultry industry. It's commonly used as an FDA approved

feed additive. "

http://cbs4.com/topstories/Arsenic.Chicken.Al.2.394359.html

>

> I am trying to figure out where we are getting poisoned from

> arsenic....we have no new construction...did have some paneling

put

> up...but nutting else....but I am sure that there is more than

that

> now....besides chelation, how do we get rid of it....was looking

at

> Andy's book and see that folic and several methylators are

supposed to

> help? Does MSM help also? Trying to figure this one out.

>

> Thanks

> Ronni

>

[Guest guest]

Lots of nonorganic chicken? What about green-treated lumber in a deck?

Do you live near/on a former orchard? Golf course?

Barb

Re: [ ] arsenic poisoning.....where are we getting it

In a message dated 07/01/2008 19:35:28 GMT Standard Time,

HISSPECIALTOUCH@... writes:

I am trying to figure out where we are getting poisoned from

arsenic

>>Do you juice whole apples? I heard there was arsenic in the pips but I

don;t know for sure

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

No, Mandy, we sure don't ......we don't do much fruit....the kids get

so yeasty...esp from apples...we just don't...

thanks for the ideas tho..

Ronni

>

>

> In a message dated 07/01/2008 19:35:28 GMT Standard Time,

> HISSPECIALTOUCH@... writes:

>

> I am trying to figure out where we are getting poisoned from

> arsenic

>

>

> >>Do you juice whole apples? I heard there was arsenic in the pips

but I

> don;t know for sure

>

> Mandi x

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Maggie.....we have filters on ours but because of all the

chlorine...seems like so many things are issues....ugh

thanks

Ronni

>

> If I recall correctly we have arsenic in our drinking water and a

few years ago the current administration allowed the amount

considered " safe " to be raised. How many parts per mil. I don't know.

>

> In Orange County where I live they just implemented the " Toilet

to Tap " program....and yes, it means exactly what it says.

They " clean " (using god-knows-what chemicals) used toilet water and

then it comes out your kitchen sink or shower! Wow, let's all have a

tall glass of water a nice shower thinking about that one!

>

> My DH will be going to the hardware store tonight for faucet and

shower filters.

>

> Mum231ASD@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 07/01/2008 19:35:28 GMT Standard Time,

> HISSPECIALTOUCH@... writes:

>

> I am trying to figure out where we are getting poisoned from

> arsenic

>

>

> >>Do you juice whole apples? I heard there was arsenic in the pips

but I

> don;t know for sure

>

> Mandi x

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We do eat quite a bit of rice as in soaked ground rice flour for

cooking....but is orgainic an issue, too...man...what next....

thanks

Ronni

>

> And there is also potentially rice as reported in a recent study that

> found elevated levels of arsenic in rice and rice-derived products. If

> I remember correctly, the study said that babies fed rice milk &

> children with rice-centric diets had the highest risks.

>

[Guest guest]

Golf course? Why do you say golf course? I didn't realise golf

courses could be problematic, why is that? Our garden backs on to a

golf course. We live in a very green suburb with all the homes built

between 1900 and 1930. Our son has severe autism. He's 2 years old.

His french lab test showed high mercury, lead, aluminium and arsenic.

We've lived in this house for nearly 8 years. Our 2 daughters (15 and

17 years old) are NT though. This is very interesting.

Jane

>

> Lots of nonorganic chicken? What about green-treated lumber in a

deck?

>

> Do you live near/on a former orchard? Golf course?

>

> Barb

> Re: [ ] arsenic poisoning.....where are we

getting it

>

>

>

> In a message dated 07/01/2008 19:35:28 GMT Standard Time,

> HISSPECIALTOUCH@... writes:

>

> I am trying to figure out where we are getting poisoned from

> arsenic

>

> >>Do you juice whole apples? I heard there was arsenic in the

pips but I

> don;t know for sure

>

> Mandi x

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey there,

I am new and wanted to add something here. I don't think arsenic is used in

pressure treated lumber anymore and think that it is older construction that

you have to be careful about.of course that doesn't mean there aren't other

toxins of concern. We tore down our deck and used pressure treated lumber

and were aware of arsenic issues.my husband did some research on it and I

know that our deck at least is arsenic free.

Theresa

[Guest guest]

If you bought the lumber last year it is not treated with arsenic but

with copper. The lumber would have to be older than that to have

arsenic in it. If your deck is more than 5 years old, it probably has

arsenic. In which case you can paint it with colored stain or seal it

with a finish. Then of course, insist on hand washing after playing

outside.

But soil and drinking water can have arsenic as well. So can chicken.

Bear in mind that if your children's hair tests met counting rules for

mercury this would cause them to retain arsenic and other metals, even

if their exposure was moderate, it would look very high in the test.

Chelation on Andy's protocol should help lower it.

> >

> > This is horrifying! My husband built my boys a swing set from

some type of treated wood

> last year and we have a deck that they play on. Is there a way to

help them detoxify better

> because it sounds like it is just every where and cannot be avoided.

My poor boys!

>

> Can you find out what kind of treated wood? I tore the deck off my

house to get rid of the

> arsenic-treated wood and replaced it with cedar.

>

> Nell

>

[Guest guest]

You might want an air purifier. Out-gassing from VOC's in paint can be

a problem in a new home or newly painted room. Lots of fresh air...

> I am trying to figure out where we are getting poisoned from

> arsenic....we have no new construction...did have some paneling put

> up...but nutting else....but I am sure that there is more than that

> now....besides chelation, how do we get rid of it....was looking at

> Andy's book and see that folic and several methylators are supposed to

> help? Does MSM help also? Trying to figure this one out.

>

> Thanks

> Ronni

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh dear....yeah golf course are primary sources. They spray it in the

pesticides on the greens. Boys are more sensitive to metals than

girls. This may be why your girls are NT. Also homes built then are

known for Lead problems. Have you done a hair test?

-- In , " brownsauce66 "

<brownsauce66@...> wrote:

>

> Golf course? Why do you say golf course? I didn't realise golf

> courses could be problematic, why is that? Our garden backs on to a

> golf course. We live in a very green suburb with all the homes built

> between 1900 and 1930. Our son has severe autism. He's 2 years old.

> His french lab test showed high mercury, lead, aluminium and arsenic.

> We've lived in this house for nearly 8 years. Our 2 daughters (15 and

> 17 years old) are NT though. This is very interesting.

>

> Jane

>

>

> >

> > Lots of nonorganic chicken? What about green-treated lumber in a

> deck?

> >

> > Do you live near/on a former orchard? Golf course?

> >

> > Barb

> > Re: [ ] arsenic poisoning.....where are we

> getting it

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 07/01/2008 19:35:28 GMT Standard Time,

> > HISSPECIALTOUCH@ writes:

> >

> > I am trying to figure out where we are getting poisoned from

> > arsenic

> >

> > >>Do you juice whole apples? I heard there was arsenic in the

> pips but I

> > don;t know for sure

> >

> > Mandi x

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

There was a thread on another board discussing arsenic levels jumping

in a child after epsom salt use and declining again when discontinued.

>

> I am trying to figure out where we are getting poisoned from

> arsenic....we have no new construction...did have some paneling put

> up...but nutting else....but I am sure that there is more than that

> now....besides chelation, how do we get rid of it....was looking at

> Andy's book and see that folic and several methylators are supposed

to

> help? Does MSM help also? Trying to figure this one out.

>

> Thanks

> Ronni

>

[Guest guest]

>

> We do eat quite a bit of rice as in soaked ground rice flour for

> cooking....but is orgainic an issue, too...man...what next....

> thanks

Below is the article about the rice study that appeared in the

Telegraph a while back. There is no mention of organic vs non-organic

in the article, but they do say that " buyers of macro-biotic health

food " are at higher risk.

I've stopped buying rice-products because they don't list the origin

of the rice, whereas when I buy rice (usually basmati), I know where

it is coming from!

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Dangerous levels of arsenic in 10pc of rice

By Clover, Environment Editor

Last Updated: 7:01pm BST 29/08/2007

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml;jsessionid=R...

A third of baby rice tested by the Food Standards Agency contains high

levels of arsenic, one of the worst cancer causing chemicals, a leading

expert has said.

Prof Meharg of Aberdeen University, who is conducting a major study

of arsenic in rice for the Food Standards Agency, said that around 10 per

cent of all rice on British shelves contained levels of arsenic that the

Chinese would consider damaging to health.

The EU has no standard for arsenic in food and Britain's level was set in

1959 before the cancer-causing effects of arsenic were understood. Prof

Meharg says the most stringent standard is set by the Chinese, who are big

eaters of rice.

Ironically, the most likely to be exposed to high arsenic levels, he said,

were infants, buyers of macro-biotic healthfood, people who buy rice milk

and the Bangladeshi community, who buy a lot of rice from their home

country where water naturally contaminated with arsenic are used to

irrigate crops.

Prof Meharg said that rice from some countries had arsenic levels five

times higher than others, so concerned consumers could easily reduce their

intake.

Rice from the United States, France, Italy and Bangladesh had the highest

levels of inorganic arsenic. About 30 per cent of American long grain rice

samples tested contain levels above the Chinese standard.

The highest levels of arsenic in the world had just been found in French

rice, he said. Rice from India and Egypt had the lowest levels, with

basmati rice some of the safest.

Prof Meharg said a recent Food Standards Agency study of baby rice had

found that out of 13 samples, four exceeded the Chinese standard of 0.15

parts per million.

Prof Meharg told a conference organised by the Royal Geographical Society:

" The majority of babyfood has relatively high levels of arsenic - the top

end of the range. This is potentially harmful because they have small

bodies and so it is a large proportion of rice - rice pudding, rice

crackers and powdered rice. "

He said that brown rice, favoured by macro-biotic, healthfood fans, had

even higher levels of arsenic. Bran from the United States used as a food

supplement had levels approaching Britain's food standard of one part per

million, set in 1959.

" That is incredibly high, " he added.

People who have given up dairy products and taken up rice milk were also

at risk, he said. Some rice milk contains arsenic at levels which exceed

the standards set for drinking water of 10 parts per billion, however

since milk is classified as a food this was not regarded as harmful.

The Food Standards Agency says the level of arsenic found in rice is not a

risk to health in Britain, where people eat relatively little rice, and

simply advises people to eat a balanced diet. It measures risk differently

to Prof Meharg, across total food consumption.

A spokesman described Prof Meharg's way of pointing out the risk of rice

foodstuffs as " not particularly helpful. "

Arsenic contamination of imported rice represents the tip of the iceberg

of a global problem of arsenic in water supplies affecting more than 70

countries and 137 million people.

Bangladesh is the worst country affected where hundreds of thousands of

people are likely to die from arsenic causing fatal cancers of the lung,

bladder and skin.

Prof Allan , an adviser to the World Health Organisation, said

arsenic posed health risks " exceeding every other potential water

contaminant. "

One in ten people exposed long term to more than 500 micrograms of arsenic

per litre would die of cancer.

Arsenic has been found in water in the North of England, the Midlands and

mid-Wales but tests and treatment by water companies mean that public

supplies are safe to drink, according to experts.

Prof advised people with private water supplies to ensure that they

were tested.

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Arsenic is in tap water.

Pamela

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

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Subject: [ ] arsenic poisoning.....where are we getting it

I am trying to figure out where we are getting poisoned from

arsenic....we have no new construction...did have some paneling put

up...but nutting else....but I am sure that there is more than that

now....besides chelation, how do we get rid of it....was looking at

Andy's book and see that folic and several methylators are supposed to

help? Does MSM help also? Trying to figure this one out.

Thanks

Ronni