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P.S. Failed to mention water/hydration is important, as are electrolytes. I like an electrolyte named Emergen-C which is a package of powder added to water, in various flavors.

Jean

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There are several things I would try. For starters, would take some cayenne, windmill my arms to draw the blood from my head, some aspirin and then a Q-tip dipped in DMSO swabbed on each temple in the hollow by my eyes. Works for me.

Jean

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Candace Podratz <momofbrock@...> wrote:

I've had one all week and now today it's WORSE. To get through my work week

I've been popping ibuprofen like crazy (no I don't need any speeches. I CAN

NOT take off work)

I -think- MY problem is needing to get

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>

>

> Sending out an SOS!!

>

> I am having SEVERE migraine today, started last night. I am treating

> it, but cant spend a lot of time on the computer. Just wanted to ask

> for prayers/good thoughts/positive energy from you, my family and

> friends. Will log on again as soon as possible in the next day or so,

> and explain.

>

>

=====================

Hi ,

I am really sorry to hear this. OUCH!!!! I get a migraine every so

often. First one I ever had was just after coming to Slovenia. I found

that if I take 1 teaspoonful of wormwood and 1/4 teaspoonful of cayenne

and steep them both in a pint of boiling water that I get pretty quick

relief from it. I take usually 2 to 4 ounces every 2 - 4 hours until I

obtain relief. Works really well for me.

This actually came from The School of Natural Healing book but the Rx in

there calls for Culver root which I cannot obtain here. So I left it out.

Hope this helps you Brother and peace be with you.

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Candace Podratz wrote:

> I've had one all week and now today it's WORSE. To get through my work

> week

> I've been popping ibuprofen like crazy (no I don't need any speeches.

> I CAN

> NOT take off work)

> I -think- MY problem is needing to get my wisdom teeth cut out since

> they're

> very impacted.

>

> I hope you find the cause and solution of your migraines SOON! Does

> cayenne

> help? Not sure if blood rushing to your head would help a headache and

> I'm

> not daring enough to try it!

>

> Candace

===========================

HI Candace,

Did you begin your total body cleanse? Are your bowels still moving on a

regular basis? You might also benefit from the recipe I just sent to

. If you have begun your TBC then chances are you are going through

a healing crisis.

If you have impacted wisdom teeth then, yes, that can cause you to

experience some hellacious headaches. Can also cause problems elsewhere

in your body too.

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Don " Quai " Eitner

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> Yes, my bowels are still moving. I didn't start the cleanse: came down

> with

> a nasty cough and sore throat. Not sure if it would be wise to start the

> cleanse while I'm sick and getting these headaches. If they get much

> worse

> I'm jumping out my window!

> Okay, all I needed was confirmation that wisdom teeth CAN in fact cause

> migraines. i did a google search and all I see is " go on this drug " if

> this

> doesn't work " try this drug "

> BLAUGH!

>

>

> Candace

>

> P.S. Going to go call the dentist NOOOOW!

===========================

Yup, you bet, impacted wisdom teeth can and will cause migraines. There

could be other reasons besides but the wisdom teeth can be the main

culprit. Removing them might just eliminate your migraines. If there are

other causes then removing the wisdom teeth might at least lessen the

migraines. One thing at a time.

--

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No cloves as in spices..

Cloves have moderately strong germicidal properties. Clove oil is effective against fungal infections such as athlete's foot.

Eugenol is the active ingredient in Cloves and remains on of the major pain relieving agents used by doctors today. For many years Clove oil was the standard toothache remedy. It has anesthetic properties of some effectiveness as well as disinfectant properties.

It is known to increase circulation of the blood, and there by promote digestion and nutrition. It is helpful in nausea and vomiting. Many herbalists recommend steeping clove buds in boiling water to cure nausea and to rid the stomach and intestines of gas.

Cloves found in the grocery stores have been found to have much less strength than those purchased from herbal stores. The properties will be the strongest in freshly ground buds which can be ground by a coffee grinder

Bodily Influence:

Analgesic: This herb relieves pain

Anodyne: This herb reduces pain

Anti-emetic: This herb lessens nausea and prevents or relieves vomiting

Antiseptic: This herb combats and neutralizes pathogenic bacteria and prevents infection

Aromatic: This herb contains volatile, essential oils that aid digestion and relieves gas.

Astringent: This herb has a constricting or binding effect, for example: one that checks hemorrhages or secretions by coagulation of proteins on a soft surface

Carminative: This herb relieves intestinal gas pain and distension; promotes peristalsis

Disinfectant: This herb destroys the cause of infection

Expectorant: This herb encourages the loosening of phlegm from the respiratory tract

Rubefacient: This herb stimulates blood flow to the skin causing local reddening

Stimulant: This herb increases internal heat, dispels internal chill and strengthens metabolism and circulation

Stomachic: This herb strengthens stomach function

Tonic: This herb restores, nourishes, and supports the entire body; it exerts a gently strengthening effect on the body

Vermifuge: This herb expels or repels intestinal worms

Does this help?Glad to hear you got a little relief.. good luck at dentistCandace Podratz <momofbrock@...> wrote:

I'm guessing you guys don't mean cloves of garlic? I have "cloves" in capsule form my mom gave me eons ago. The ingredients just say "cloves" so I'm guessing that's not garlic?__________________________________________________

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Cloves as in " Cloves " , not garlic cloves. It's a spice kind of like

Nutmeg or cinnnamon in taste. and they look kind of like a little

piece of stem or bark

Cloves and/or clove oil really work wonders for tooth and gum pain.

If you dont have a HFS near by, even regular old gorcery store cloves

will work if that is all you have. Grind a few up as fine as you

can, and add just enough 100 proof to make a paste, put this on the

affected area.

If you have any Echinacea tincture i would add that to the clove

instead of the 100 Proof as it will help even better. I have done

this recetly as i have a tooth that needs looking after and just dont

have the funds for a trip tot he dentist right now.

Sylvia

> I'm guessing you guys don't mean cloves of garlic? I have " cloves " in

> capsule form my mom gave me eons ago. The ingredients just say

" cloves " so

> I'm guessing that's not garlic?

>

> I have cloves of garlic.

>

> Today I woke up pain free! But it's now noon and my jaw is starting

to ache

> a little more by the minute. And boy I've got snot running out like

water!

> Where'd that all come from!

> I have my consultation in a couple hours and will see if I can

weasle my way

> in earlier than Thursday. At this point in time I wouldn't care if

they dug

> them out with a rusty spoon I just want them OUT!

>

> Candace

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Don Quai " <mysticalherbalist@y...>

> <health >

> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:02 PM

> Subject: Re: sos

>

>

> > ======================

> > Hi Candace,

> >

> > When you are in lots of pain even a minute is a

> > looooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggggggggggggg time. I know. I have

> > been there more than once. With intense mouth/tooth pain you might

also

> > try alternating hot and cold. Back and forth. It does help, may

not seem

> > like much but it does help. Do you have any cloves? You can stick

a few

> > back there and just let em do their thing or mash em up a bit and

stick

> > it back there. Cloves are rather good for tooth and gum pains.

> >

> > Will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Hang in there Candace,

> > Thursday will be here soon, hopefully you will get your relief then.

> >

> > Peace be with you Candace.

> >

> > --

> > Peace, love and light,

> >

> > Don " Quai " Eitner

> >

> > " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams

in the

> > animal and wakes in man. "

> >

> >

> >

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Candace Podratz wrote:

> I'm guessing you guys don't mean cloves of garlic? I have " cloves " in

> capsule form my mom gave me eons ago. The ingredients just say

> " cloves " so

> I'm guessing that's not garlic?

>

> I have cloves of garlic.

>

> Today I woke up pain free! But it's now noon and my jaw is starting to

> ache

> a little more by the minute. And boy I've got snot running out like

> water!

> Where'd that all come from!

> I have my consultation in a couple hours and will see if I can weasle

> my way

> in earlier than Thursday. At this point in time I wouldn't care if

> they dug

> them out with a rusty spoon I just want them OUT!

>

> Candace

======================

Hi Candace,

No not the garlic kind but the clove oil kind or the kind that usually

always got stuck all over the Easter Ham or whatever. The brown stick

and ball looking spice that is so wonderful to smell. Good for you too.

It is good that your sinuses are draining now. I am sure the dentist

will appreciate this fact. LOL Your sinuses draining will help with some

of the pain anyway.

Best wishes on your visit Candace and I will be sending good thoughts to

your dentist so maybe he will get you in sooner.

Peace be with you Candace.

--

Peace, love and light,

Don " Quai " Eitner

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and wakes in man. "

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> Okay. Do you think it would burn or hurt too bad if I picked up some

> cloves

> (if I can find them) before Thursday and use that instead of the

> painkillers

> they'll give me after surgery? Or since I have the clove capsules and

> Echinacea Plus maybe I could open some of the capsules and use that or

> would

> dried cloves not work?

>

> Or do you think putting them on open wounds would be too much? I know

> they'll give me codeine or something like that and I have a 2 year old! I

> can't be groggy! I'll end up with my favorite sweater flushed halfways

> down

> the toilet or something.

>

> Candace

=========================

Hmmm.......the cloves you have in capsule form are the same your gonna

buy in the store. The only difference is the ones your mother gave you

are powdered. Open up the caps and use em that way. Now using them on an

open wound might not be the best idea. If you are going out shopping see

if you can get find any myrrh tincture or powder. This will work very

well for helping you get over the surgery. Myrrh is a natural

antibiotic, pain killer and does wonders for mouth and gums. Might not

taste the best but it sure does help. Sometimes you can find a

goldenseal/myrrh tincture. You can use that too. Works really well.

The codeine is not the best thing to take. However, depending on your

level of pain tolerance you may need to use them. Of course, you might

not have any pain anyway. When they removed my wisdom teeth I didn't

have hardly any pain. There was some but it was tolerable. But then my

wisdom teeth had already grown in. ou will usually have cotton stuffed

into the holes left to soak up the blood until they close up a bit.

Cloves do help with pain but only to an extent. The clove oil will be

better than the dried cloves if you can get it. Otherwise, just follow

Sylvias advice.

Also, put your sweaters up high. Hehehe

--

Peace, love and light,

Don " Quai " Eitner

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Also...

Sometimes dentists will use Clove oil to pack into the sockets they

remove teeth from, Since cash is an issue, ask the dentist if he can

spare a little (it never hurts to ask) Maybe he can soak a couple of

cotton balls or some gauze and put them into a baggie for you to take

with you????

And lastly, be careful about the painkillers, If you have the problem

I have, I have a low tollerance for them and they make me queasy which

can lead to vomitting which is worse than the pain that you started

with LOL.

Sylvia

>

> > Okay. Do you think it would burn or hurt too bad if I picked up some

> > cloves

> > (if I can find them) before Thursday and use that instead of the

> > painkillers

> > they'll give me after surgery? Or since I have the clove capsules and

> > Echinacea Plus maybe I could open some of the capsules and use

that or

> > would

> > dried cloves not work?

> >

> > Or do you think putting them on open wounds would be too much? I know

> > they'll give me codeine or something like that and I have a 2 year

old! I

> > can't be groggy! I'll end up with my favorite sweater flushed

halfways

> > down

> > the toilet or something.

> >

> > Candace

>

> =========================

> Hmmm.......the cloves you have in capsule form are the same your gonna

> buy in the store. The only difference is the ones your mother gave you

> are powdered. Open up the caps and use em that way. Now using them

on an

> open wound might not be the best idea. If you are going out shopping

see

> if you can get find any myrrh tincture or powder. This will work very

> well for helping you get over the surgery. Myrrh is a natural

> antibiotic, pain killer and does wonders for mouth and gums. Might not

> taste the best but it sure does help. Sometimes you can find a

> goldenseal/myrrh tincture. You can use that too. Works really well.

>

> The codeine is not the best thing to take. However, depending on your

> level of pain tolerance you may need to use them. Of course, you might

> not have any pain anyway. When they removed my wisdom teeth I didn't

> have hardly any pain. There was some but it was tolerable. But then my

> wisdom teeth had already grown in. ou will usually have cotton stuffed

> into the holes left to soak up the blood until they close up a bit.

>

> Cloves do help with pain but only to an extent. The clove oil will be

> better than the dried cloves if you can get it. Otherwise, just follow

> Sylvias advice.

>

> Also, put your sweaters up high. Hehehe

>

> --

> Peace, love and light,

>

> Don " Quai " Eitner

>

> " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in

the animal and wakes in man. "

>

>

>

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Do you take Calcium in large amounts? I had some pretty severe twitching one

time when I had been taking large doses of Calcium thinking it would help

the muscle weakness and spasms I was already having. My hands started

jumping off the table, it scared me to death. I then found out you cannot

take large amount of calcium without magnesium and I had become magnesium

deficient. Just a thought.

-- [ ] SOS

Hello Group,

I don't often post but often read. I have a hard time putting things into

words. First let me thank everyone out there; your posts sometimes get me

through

I am not sure how long I have had lyme, and may have been infected more than

one time.

Currently I am experiencing uncontrollable and sometime violent spasms in my

mouth/tounge (constantly biting my tounge), head/neck, torso and.well pretty

much all over. It is like convulsions over my entire body, but feel

everything and it is painful. It is hard to put in words. This happened

several times in 2003 and each time was a trip to the hospital and will

probably be headed there today.

It starts out as twitches in the hands and feet and progresses from there.

Has anyone else had anything similar to this?

Thanks,

bb

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I don't post much either and I didn't even read for a while. Got to be

too much.

One of my symptoms started a couple of months after my tick bite was

all over jerking/twitching sometimes of my whole body, sometimes just

my legs or arms. It was like giant convulsions but I hadn't thought of

them that way. I'd sit in the different doc's waiting room etc and my

legs would twitch about every 5-6 sec. This continued for about 4-5

months as I was evaluated and not properly diagnosed.

After I got a diagnosis or Lyme and started treatment it took a few

months before the jerking let up. Now I still get it sometimes -

mostly triggered by sudden changes in light or sound.

> Hello Group,

>

>

>

> I don't often post but often read. I have a hard time putting

things into

> words. First let me thank everyone out there; your posts sometimes

get me

> through

>

>

>

> I am not sure how long I have had lyme, and may have been infected

more than

> one time.

>

>

>

> Currently I am experiencing uncontrollable and sometime violent

spasms in my

> mouth/tounge (constantly biting my tounge), head/neck, torso

and.well pretty

> much all over. It is like convulsions over my entire body, but feel

> everything and it is painful. It is hard to put in words. This

happened

> several times in 2003 and each time was a trip to the hospital and will

> probably be headed there today.

>

>

>

> It starts out as twitches in the hands and feet and progresses from

there.

> Has anyone else had anything similar to this?

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> bb

>

>

>

>

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Have not had similar symptoms, my most problem is

fatigue. Other symptoms are less of a problem.

--- Pam <wooconley@...> wrote:

> I don't post much either and I didn't even read for

> a while. Got to be

> too much.

>

> One of my symptoms started a couple of months after

> my tick bite was

> all over jerking/twitching sometimes of my whole

> body, sometimes just

> my legs or arms. It was like giant convulsions but I

> hadn't thought of

> them that way. I'd sit in the different doc's

> waiting room etc and my

> legs would twitch about every 5-6 sec. This

> continued for about 4-5

> months as I was evaluated and not properly

> diagnosed.

>

> After I got a diagnosis or Lyme and started

> treatment it took a few

> months before the jerking let up. Now I still get it

> sometimes -

> mostly triggered by sudden changes in light or

> sound.

>

>

> > Hello Group,

> >

> >

> >

> > I don't often post but often read. I have a hard

> time putting

> things into

> > words. First let me thank everyone out there;

> your posts sometimes

> get me

> > through

> >

> >

> >

> > I am not sure how long I have had lyme, and may

> have been infected

> more than

> > one time.

> >

> >

> >

> > Currently I am experiencing uncontrollable and

> sometime violent

> spasms in my

> > mouth/tounge (constantly biting my tounge),

> head/neck, torso

> and.well pretty

> > much all over. It is like convulsions over my

> entire body, but feel

> > everything and it is painful. It is hard to put

> in words. This

> happened

> > several times in 2003 and each time was a trip to

> the hospital and will

> > probably be headed there today.

> >

> >

> >

> > It starts out as twitches in the hands and feet

> and progresses from

> there.

> > Has anyone else had anything similar to this?

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > bb

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

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Sick of snow too. We have not had as much as some, but I am so ready for spring. I went around our yard today and saw lots of flowers coming up!!!!! YEAH!!!!!

n a message dated 2/28/2010 12:03:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jrushen@... writes:

Here is another one...SOS.....sick of snow

We have had 20" and have been out of school since 12:30 on Tuesday ...and guess what... it is sunday and it is SNOWING!!!! And now they are calling for more snow Tuesday into Wed. I have my son's IEP meeting Tuesday morning....ugh!

From: Kate Stone <katesdishes > Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 11:48:18 AMSubject: Re: ( ) re:oc

Rawk On Florida ?...LOL ... jan, your a hoot!

From: ed colon <lvchowdah (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) re:oc Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 12:37 AM

sorry guys,

it means south orange county california.

Ed

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Well in Downunder (Australia)

We have had nothing but heat, floods and bushfires. Can't wait for winter - it gets cold but not too cold that it snows in any of our cities. Have to be living further up in the mountains for that. So I would love to swap some of your snow for some of this heat!

From: ed colon <lvchowdah (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) re:oc Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 12:37 AM

sorry guys,

it means south orange county california.

Ed

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