Re: Confused: Mercury toxicity and elevated Copper and Zinc Levels

[Guest guest]

I was reading some of the older thread on this forum and what I see is that

mostly with

high level of Copper you have low level of zinc. In my son's case, both copper

and zinc

levels are high .... can someone please tell what does it mean?

Thank you!

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I had Urine test done on my 3.5 year old Son. As expected, Mercury did not

show up -

> because of its hidden nature... but since mercury also causes an imbalance in

the level

of

> nutrient elements, therefore, in the report, I see elevated levels of Copper

and Zinc. I

have

> seen relation of Autism to elevated level of Cu/Zn .... but is that a common

thing in

Autistic

> kids? I mean, I am almost there to get my kid started on the DMSA and now I

see this

Cu/Zn

> level ... should I be doing some other treatment (MT Therapy?), or the DMSA

would take

care

> of all - Mercury, Cu, Zn? I am so confused now .... the more I read about this

spectrum

> disorder, the more confused I get .... Please assist.

>

> By the way,

> Copper level came out to be 24.0 (ref range: 4.0-11.4)

> And Zinc level came out to be 712 (ref range: 63-688)

>

> Thanks a lot guys,

>

> -TS

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know that urinary copper is a good indicator of what is

going on.

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/48303.html

Have you done a hair test? If copper is elevated on a hair test,

give extra zinc and molybdenum. That should bring it down within 3

months. You can chelate with DMSA even with high copper, but be

careful with ALA, since it inhibits copper excretion via urine in

lots of people.

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/143992.html

Anne

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I had Urine test done on my 3.5 year old Son. As expected, Mercury

did not show up -

> because of its hidden nature... but since mercury also causes an

imbalance in the level of

> nutrient elements, therefore, in the report, I see elevated levels

of Copper and Zinc. I have

> seen relation of Autism to elevated level of Cu/Zn .... but is

that a common thing in Autistic

> kids? I mean, I am almost there to get my kid started on the DMSA

and now I see this Cu/Zn

> level ... should I be doing some other treatment (MT Therapy?), or

the DMSA would take care

> of all - Mercury, Cu, Zn? I am so confused now .... the more I

read about this spectrum

> disorder, the more confused I get .... Please assist.

>

> By the way,

> Copper level came out to be 24.0 (ref range: 4.0-11.4)

> And Zinc level came out to be 712 (ref range: 63-688)

>

> Thanks a lot guys,

>

> -TS

>

[Guest guest]

Does your house had copper water pipes? Does your son eat lots of

copper-containing foods (nuts, etc)? Does he spend time in a swimming pool?

Are you supplementing zinc? Does he take a multivitamin which contains copper?

S S

Confused: Mercury toxicity and elevated Copper and Zinc Levels

Posted by: " Rhapsodist1 " tanveers@... Rhapsodist1

Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:17 pm (PDT)

Hello everyone,

I had Urine test done on my 3.5 year old Son. As expected, Mercury did not show

up -

because of its hidden nature... but since mercury also causes an imbalance in

the level of

nutrient elements, therefore, in the report, I see elevated levels of Copper and

Zinc. I have

seen relation of Autism to elevated level of Cu/Zn .... but is that a common

thing in Autistic

kids? I mean, I am almost there to get my kid started on the DMSA and now I see

this Cu/Zn

level ... should I be doing some other treatment (MT Therapy?), or the DMSA

would take care

of all - Mercury, Cu, Zn? I am so confused now .... the more I read about this

spectrum

disorder, the more confused I get .... Please assist.

By the way,

Copper level came out to be 24.0 (ref range: 4.0-11.4)

And Zinc level came out to be 712 (ref range: 63-688)

Thanks a lot guys,

-TS

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[Guest guest]

, thanks for your feedback. My answers are followed by ***

Does your house had copper water pipes?

*** No. Since his birth the houses we have lived in were all built in after

2000. I believe

only older homes have copper water pipes.

Does your son eat lots of copper-containing foods (nuts, etc)?

*** No, we do not feed our son nuts neither does he likes it.

Does he spend time in a swimming pool?

*** No, we do not have a swimming pool, neither we take him to any swimming.

Are you supplementing zinc? Does he take a multivitamin which contains copper?

*** No, so far we have not given him any zinc or any other multivitamins.

From this forum and Internet, I have come to know that ASD kids are anyway, high

in

copper. Now as you can see that the zinc level are high too ... normally you

would see ASD

kids with high copper but low zinc.

BTW, we have started chelation (DMSA+ALA) today. And this is our first round. So

far, have

not seen any side effects nor any improvements.

Thanks,

-TS

>

>

> Does your house had copper water pipes? Does your son eat lots of

copper-containing

foods (nuts, etc)? Does he spend time in a swimming pool? Are you

supplementing zinc?

Does he take a multivitamin which contains copper?

> S S

>

>

> Confused: Mercury toxicity and elevated Copper and Zinc Levels

> Posted by: " Rhapsodist1 " tanveers@... Rhapsodist1

> Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:17 pm (PDT)

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I had Urine test done on my 3.5 year old Son. As expected, Mercury did not

show up -

> because of its hidden nature... but since mercury also causes an imbalance in

the level

of

> nutrient elements, therefore, in the report, I see elevated levels of Copper

and Zinc. I

have

> seen relation of Autism to elevated level of Cu/Zn .... but is that a common

thing in

Autistic

> kids? I mean, I am almost there to get my kid started on the DMSA and now I

see this

Cu/Zn

> level ... should I be doing some other treatment (MT Therapy?), or the DMSA

would take

care

> of all - Mercury, Cu, Zn? I am so confused now .... the more I read about this

spectrum

> disorder, the more confused I get .... Please assist.

>

> By the way,

> Copper level came out to be 24.0 (ref range: 4.0-11.4)

> And Zinc level came out to be 712 (ref range: 63-688)

>

> Thanks a lot guys,

>

> -TS

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

TS - I don't know if the urine test is sufficient to conclude that he is copper

toxic. I do believe that you can conclude that he is pissing out a lot of zinc

and so assuming you are not dosing him with massive quantities of the stuff, I

think he will be needing more.

If there is a copper issue, then he will be needing molybdenum. You may want to

consider a hair test to identify this.

Dave.

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Posted by: " Rhapsodist1 " tanveers@... Rhapsodist1

Date: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:17 pm ((PDT))

Hello everyone,

I had Urine test done on my 3.5 year old Son. As expected, Mercury did not show

up -

because of its hidden nature... but since mercury also causes an imbalance in

the level of

nutrient elements, therefore, in the report, I see elevated levels of Copper and

Zinc. I have

seen relation of Autism to elevated level of Cu/Zn .... but is that a common

thing in Autistic

kids? I mean, I am almost there to get my kid started on the DMSA and now I see

this Cu/Zn

level ... should I be doing some other treatment (MT Therapy?), or the DMSA

would take care

of all - Mercury, Cu, Zn? I am so confused now .... the more I read about this

spectrum

disorder, the more confused I get .... Please assist.

By the way,

Copper level came out to be 24.0 (ref range: 4.0-11.4)

And Zinc level came out to be 712 (ref range: 63-688)

Thanks a lot guys,

-TS