Guest guest Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 I'm new and I haven't had a chance to read the files yet (my 3 year old hates me being on the computer & lately I've been too exhausted to stay up late researching) so here is my quickie question...hopefully it will have a quickie answer! Is there a Cutler method for transdermal chelation (or is it just oral)? I heard from other autism moms that the order of effectiveness goes: transdermal, then oral, then suppositories, then IV...well, I have no interest in the latter two and thought I'd start with the creams b/c my son is just 3 and has a small hole in his heart (VSD). He tested high in arsenic, antimony, and tin and based on the " C " shape curve of the French urine test our doc thinks he has mercury as well. I still need to do the counting test, but I'm pretty sure he'll need to chelate...and I want to do the slowest, lowest dose, safest way possible for our little guy. Thanks to everyone for sharing your knowledge and experiences. Cyndi Newton (VA) Re: [ ] Re: concerns I'm curious. What window are you afraid of missing? There isn't really a window of opportunity for chelation. I'm recovering an 18 year old son! As long as you remove exposure, then things won't get worse unless you move the metal around by unsafe chelation, as far as I know. There are people on the board recovering children of all ages and sizes. It is always safer to learn as much as you can before starting. Postponing until you are more comfortable with the process is probably a good idea. It will give you time to learn and ask more educated questions of your health care practitioner. The amount the doctor wants to use isn't as bad as some I've heard, but still higher than should be dosed. Also, it shouldn't be dosed just once, but on the half -life for a period of 3 days to optimize the amount of mercury removed without redistribution. DMSA also chelates lead I believe. We don't use it here though, so probably someone more knowledgeable can help with that. It doesn't sound that safe though, like maybe the doc is doing a modified challenge test - where you stir up a bunch of metals at once and see what comes out in the urine. Not all will come out though, some will redistribute. That is when it becomes not safe. Doing several days at low dose minimizes this. I saw you had another e-mail that asked about using ALA (alpha lipoic acid) As for ALA, there is information about frequent dose ALA in the files section of this message board. We use only ALA 3 days on 4 days off, 1/8mg per pound of body weight dosed every 3-4 hours. 3 hours day - 4 hours night. It is not necessary that a doctor supervise, and ALA is available without a prescription, as is DMSA another chelator used by many on the board. You can buy your own ALA and then divide it into the right size dose for the round. I have a pharmacist friend who is also interested in chelating compound it for us, so we have the right amount in a tablet. It costs to have her do it, but it is worth not having to divide myself. ALA is very inexpensive too. P. gbrn98 wrote: > > She is going to be given 50 mg?? (couldn't read handwriting) - > hopefully orally. Will call docs office today to double check. We > are to do 6 hours urine pre/post so......... > > I'm really considering post poning until I know more about this. I > just don't want my daughter to miss that " window " . > > > > > > > > Please bear with me. I'm really nervous about starting DMPS on > my > > > daughter who is 3 1/2. She was diagnosed with autism at 27 > months. > > > This past year she has made great improvements with eye contact, > some > > > socialization. To begin with, she is VERY loving, loves to > cuddle. > > > Her main issues are speech. She has very little behavioral > issues, > > > very mild stims (when excited). She is an extremely picky eater. > Her > > > speech therapist thinks she has apraxia. Bless her heart, she > tries to > > > repeat words you say. She is very vocal, and can say a handful > of > > > words. > > > > > So, why am I worried?? > > > > > > It's your intuition telling you to be cautious for the sake of your > > child - very normal! > > > > > > > > > Can this chelating stuff make her regress?? > > > > > > Yes, if done improperly. > > > > The protocol that most people in this group use (Andy's protocol) is > > the safest and has almost no risk of regression, if done properly. > > > > > > > If > > > so, is it a permanent thing? Will it make her really ill?? > > > > > > Only for what Andy calls the " harmful, inappropriate " chelation > protocols. > > > > On Andy's protocol it is possible to feel much better during > > chelation, there is no need to feel ill, if a person does get really > > ill it is an indication that something is wrong. > > > > > > > > > What GAINS > > > has anyone seen when doing this?? > > > > > > Many parents have cured there children (had their diagnosis > reversed). > > Many adults have cured chronic health conditions (that mainstream > med > > would say are incurable). > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for all the questions.... she is to start this weekend! > Help!! > > > > > > Stop and investigate before you follow the advise of a doctor. Most > > do not understand chelation and do prescribe treatments that are > harmful. > > > > Tell us exactly what she is to start this weekend. > > > > It's ok to delay or say no to the treatment (depending on what it > is). > > > > J > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 > > I'm new and I haven't had a chance to read the files yet (my 3 year old hates me being on the computer & lately I've been too exhausted to stay up late researching) so here is my quickie question...hopefully it will have a quickie answer! > > Is there a Cutler method for transdermal chelation (or is it just oral)? Cutler doesn't recommend transdermal chelation. His protocol is for oral chelators. > I heard from other autism moms that the order of effectiveness >goes: transdermal, then oral, then suppositories, then IV... They were repeating misinformation. Oral is safest and most effective. well, I have no interest in the latter two and thought I'd start with the creams b/c my son is just 3 and has a small hole in his heart (VSD). > Transdermals haven't been tested properly. > He tested high in arsenic, antimony, and tin and based on the " C " shape curve of the French urine test our doc thinks he has mercury as well. I still need to do the counting test, but I'm pretty sure he'll need to chelate ....and I want to do the slowest, lowest dose, safest way possible for our little guy. > That would be chelation with Andy Cutler's protocol. Be sure to educate yourself before starting. Start with the FAQ, files, links, Moria's web pages and Andy's two books. J > Thanks to everyone for sharing your knowledge and experiences. > > Cyndi Newton (VA) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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