Re: Just how to control yeast

[Guest guest]

You are amazing attempting to do this all yourself. I struggle myself figuring

this all out

so I thought I'd just send encouragement.

Don't give up.

I have used " CANDEX " for yeast. They advertise that it 'kills yeast by

destroying the cell

walls so they dissappear rather than " KILLING " yeast which causes release of

toxins and die

off issues for you.'

>

> I've been doing a lot for yeast here for my kids. My oldest has

> nystatin, threelac, custom probiotics & biotin. My 9, 5, & 2yo have

> all these except the Nystatin. They are getting 6mg of biotin now.

>

> All I see are increases in yeasty behaviors with all of them. The

> little guy still has diarrhea.

>

> Some of these behaviors are very difficult, some are very socially

> inappropriate & it's tough to be around anyone else. I just can't get

> them under control & I'm completely drained from trying (biomed &

> everything else).I've got baby twins to care for & yeast myself!

>

> 13yo is chelating with ALA; the others I had just started last week

> but a couple are sick this week so I didn't do any rounds. Also my dd

> (5yo)is the one who I posted got sick on the ALA & that her yeast

> behaviors were out of control. I started her on extra minerals as

> suggested & will continue that for a few weeks before trying ALA

> again. She's actually the worst behaviorially. I'm at the end of the

> rope here...

>

> Any help or advice??

>

> Thanks, Michele

>

[Guest guest]

We are using a lot of biotin....and Candex....but one thing that I

have heard and we are also using it is epicor....it helps to build up

the immune system and get it goin so that it can help itself. We are

doing well over 240 mg of biotin a day. We were even higher at one

point. We are giving at least 4 candex at a time several times a

day...and sometimes when it is bad...it is more candex per time.

Could some of this be die off...how about giving some charcoal or

clay about 45 min after dosing to see if that helps. Die off is

terribly miserable.

Iherb has a good price on epicor....it helps with so many immune

things....getting the flu and bugs...I would get everyone started on

it...esp you. I would also get myself on some biotin and up

everyone elses and downscale activities as much as possible. I would

prolly take a break from chelating til things are better under

control, and you are more able to cope. Are you taking b complex?

Are you getting enough protien for both you and the babies.. If mom

is running too ragged, then everything goes to pot. I understand

where you are and how hard it is....I wish I could make it

better..because I know that seems like there is no hope...so much

struggle and so much stress.

May Jesus give you rest and answers.

Ronni

>

> I've been doing a lot for yeast here for my kids. My oldest has

> nystatin, threelac, custom probiotics & biotin. My 9, 5, & 2yo have

> all these except the Nystatin. They are getting 6mg of biotin now.

>

> All I see are increases in yeasty behaviors with all of them. The

> little guy still has diarrhea.

>

> Some of these behaviors are very difficult, some are very socially

> inappropriate & it's tough to be around anyone else. I just can't

get

> them under control & I'm completely drained from trying (biomed &

> everything else).I've got baby twins to care for & yeast myself!

>

> 13yo is chelating with ALA; the others I had just started last week

> but a couple are sick this week so I didn't do any rounds. Also my

dd

> (5yo)is the one who I posted got sick on the ALA & that her yeast

> behaviors were out of control. I started her on extra minerals as

> suggested & will continue that for a few weeks before trying ALA

> again. She's actually the worst behaviorially. I'm at the end of

the

> rope here...

>

> Any help or advice??

>

> Thanks, Michele

>

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: ronnimike

We are using a lot of biotin....and Candex....but one thing that I

have heard and we are also using it is epicor....it helps to build up

the immune system and get it goin so that it can help itself.

====>I do know some people who have used EpiCor successfully, but it did

nothing here. EpiCor is reported to help elevate SiGa levels and her levels are

fine so that may explain why it was not helpful here.

We are

doing well over 240 mg of biotin a day. We were even higher at one

point. We are giving at least 4 candex at a time several times a

day...and sometimes when it is bad...it is more candex per time.

Could some of this be die off...how about giving some charcoal or

clay about 45 min after dosing to see if that helps. Die off is

terribly miserable.

Iherb has a good price on epicor....it helps with so many immune

things....getting the flu and bugs...I would get everyone started on

it...esp you. I would also get myself on some biotin and up

everyone elses and downscale activities as much as possible. I would

prolly take a break from chelating til things are better under

control, and you are more able to cope. Are you taking b complex?

Are you getting enough protien for both you and the babies.. If mom

is running too ragged, then everything goes to pot. I understand

where you are and how hard it is....I wish I could make it

better..because I know that seems like there is no hope...so much

struggle and so much stress.

May Jesus give you rest and answers.

Ronni

>

> I've been doing a lot for yeast here for my kids. My oldest has

> nystatin, threelac, custom probiotics & biotin. My 9, 5, & 2yo have

> all these except the Nystatin. They are getting 6mg of biotin now.

>

> All I see are increases in yeasty behaviors with all of them. The

> little guy still has diarrhea.

>

> Some of these behaviors are very difficult, some are very socially

> inappropriate & it's tough to be around anyone else. I just can't

get

> them under control & I'm completely drained from trying (biomed &

> everything else).I've got baby twins to care for & yeast myself!

>

> 13yo is chelating with ALA; the others I had just started last week

> but a couple are sick this week so I didn't do any rounds. Also my

dd

> (5yo)is the one who I posted got sick on the ALA & that her yeast

> behaviors were out of control. I started her on extra minerals as

> suggested & will continue that for a few weeks before trying ALA

> again. She's actually the worst behaviorially. I'm at the end of

the

> rope here...

>

> Any help or advice??

>

> Thanks, Michele

>

[Guest guest]

My 2yo is very prone to respitory issues, & Candex made him wheeze;

so I just stopped using it for everyone.

Thx, Michele

> >

> > I've been doing a lot for yeast here for my kids. My oldest has

> > nystatin, threelac, custom probiotics & biotin. My 9, 5, & 2yo

have

> > all these except the Nystatin. They are getting 6mg of biotin now.

> >

> > All I see are increases in yeasty behaviors with all of them. The

> > little guy still has diarrhea.

> >

> > Some of these behaviors are very difficult, some are very

socially

> > inappropriate & it's tough to be around anyone else. I just can't

get

> > them under control & I'm completely drained from trying (biomed &

> > everything else).I've got baby twins to care for & yeast myself!

> >

> > 13yo is chelating with ALA; the others I had just started last

week

> > but a couple are sick this week so I didn't do any rounds. Also

my dd

> > (5yo)is the one who I posted got sick on the ALA & that her yeast

> > behaviors were out of control. I started her on extra minerals as

> > suggested & will continue that for a few weeks before trying ALA

> > again. She's actually the worst behaviorially. I'm at the end of

the

> > rope here...

> >

> > Any help or advice??

> >

> > Thanks, Michele

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ronni,

I just mentioned to another poster that Candex made my 2yo wheeze, so

I had to drop it. To make things a bit easier I dropped it for all of

them.

THey are up to 6mg biotin as of yesterday. Die off is what I was

wondering & how long before I actually see improvements though? All I

ever see is die off! I have tried charcoal & it helps my oldest but a

couple of them it's very tough to get down them.

I'm raising the biotin slowly... I only take 600mcg; I'm nursing the

twins so never sure what's good to do. yes, I do take a B comp.

As for activities there aren't any to scale back on. All I ever do is

hand out vits & supps & do research as to what other vits & supps I

need to give or do etc etc. We never go anywhere.

Thanks again,

Michele

>

> We are using a lot of biotin....and Candex....but one thing that I

> have heard and we are also using it is epicor....it helps to build

up

> the immune system and get it goin so that it can help itself. We

are

> doing well over 240 mg of biotin a day. We were even higher at

one

> point. We are giving at least 4 candex at a time several times a

> day...and sometimes when it is bad...it is more candex per time.

>

> Could some of this be die off...how about giving some charcoal or

> clay about 45 min after dosing to see if that helps. Die off is

> terribly miserable.

>

> Iherb has a good price on epicor....it helps with so many immune

> things....getting the flu and bugs...I would get everyone started

on

> it...esp you. I would also get myself on some biotin and up

> everyone elses and downscale activities as much as possible. I

would

> prolly take a break from chelating til things are better under

> control, and you are more able to cope. Are you taking b complex?

> Are you getting enough protien for both you and the babies.. If mom

> is running too ragged, then everything goes to pot. I understand

> where you are and how hard it is....I wish I could make it

> better..because I know that seems like there is no hope...so much

> struggle and so much stress.

> May Jesus give you rest and answers.

> Ronni

> >

> > I've been doing a lot for yeast here for my kids. My oldest has

> > nystatin, threelac, custom probiotics & biotin. My 9, 5, & 2yo

have

> > all these except the Nystatin. They are getting 6mg of biotin now.

> >

> > All I see are increases in yeasty behaviors with all of them. The

> > little guy still has diarrhea.

> >

> > Some of these behaviors are very difficult, some are very

socially

> > inappropriate & it's tough to be around anyone else. I just can't

> get

> > them under control & I'm completely drained from trying (biomed &

> > everything else).I've got baby twins to care for & yeast myself!

> >

> > 13yo is chelating with ALA; the others I had just started last

week

> > but a couple are sick this week so I didn't do any rounds. Also

my

> dd

> > (5yo)is the one who I posted got sick on the ALA & that her yeast

> > behaviors were out of control. I started her on extra minerals as

> > suggested & will continue that for a few weeks before trying ALA

> > again. She's actually the worst behaviorially. I'm at the end of

> the

> > rope here...

> >

> > Any help or advice??

> >

> > Thanks, Michele

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I forgot to reply on the Epicor. I have to look into that as I've not

heard of it & don't know anything about it.

Thanks, Michele

>

> We are using a lot of biotin....and Candex....but one thing that I

> have heard and we are also using it is epicor....it helps to build

up

> the immune system and get it goin so that it can help itself. We

are

> doing well over 240 mg of biotin a day. We were even higher at

one

> point. We are giving at least 4 candex at a time several times a

> day...and sometimes when it is bad...it is more candex per time.

>

> Could some of this be die off...how about giving some charcoal or

> clay about 45 min after dosing to see if that helps. Die off is

> terribly miserable.

>

> Iherb has a good price on epicor....it helps with so many immune

> things....getting the flu and bugs...I would get everyone started

on

> it...esp you. I would also get myself on some biotin and up

> everyone elses and downscale activities as much as possible. I

would

> prolly take a break from chelating til things are better under

> control, and you are more able to cope. Are you taking b complex?

> Are you getting enough protien for both you and the babies.. If mom

> is running too ragged, then everything goes to pot. I understand

> where you are and how hard it is....I wish I could make it

> better..because I know that seems like there is no hope...so much

> struggle and so much stress.

> May Jesus give you rest and answers.

> Ronni

> >

> > I've been doing a lot for yeast here for my kids. My oldest has

> > nystatin, threelac, custom probiotics & biotin. My 9, 5, & 2yo

have

> > all these except the Nystatin. They are getting 6mg of biotin now.

> >

> > All I see are increases in yeasty behaviors with all of them. The

> > little guy still has diarrhea.

> >

> > Some of these behaviors are very difficult, some are very

socially

> > inappropriate & it's tough to be around anyone else. I just can't

> get

> > them under control & I'm completely drained from trying (biomed &

> > everything else).I've got baby twins to care for & yeast myself!

> >

> > 13yo is chelating with ALA; the others I had just started last

week

> > but a couple are sick this week so I didn't do any rounds. Also

my

> dd

> > (5yo)is the one who I posted got sick on the ALA & that her yeast

> > behaviors were out of control. I started her on extra minerals as

> > suggested & will continue that for a few weeks before trying ALA

> > again. She's actually the worst behaviorially. I'm at the end of

> the

> > rope here...

> >

> > Any help or advice??

> >

> > Thanks, Michele

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

Do you have anyone that you can rope into helping you, a cousin, aunt, someone

off the street Can you contact me off list in your spare time and let me

know where you live, there has got to be a way to get some assistance for a Mom

who wants to chelate but is just understandedly overwhelmed. I'm sure there are

people who would help....it's just a matter of finding them.

[ ] Just how to control yeast

I've been doing a lot for yeast here for my kids. My oldest has

nystatin, threelac, custom probiotics & biotin. My 9, 5, & 2yo have

all these except the Nystatin. They are getting 6mg of biotin now.

All I see are increases in yeasty behaviors with all of them. The

little guy still has diarrhea.

Some of these behaviors are very difficult, some are very socially

inappropriate & it's tough to be around anyone else. I just can't get

them under control & I'm completely drained from trying (biomed &

everything else).I've got baby twins to care for & yeast myself!

13yo is chelating with ALA; the others I had just started last week

but a couple are sick this week so I didn't do any rounds. Also my dd

(5yo)is the one who I posted got sick on the ALA & that her yeast

behaviors were out of control. I started her on extra minerals as

suggested & will continue that for a few weeks before trying ALA

again. She's actually the worst behaviorially. I'm at the end of the

rope here...

Any help or advice??

Thanks, Michele