Re: Virastop/ OLE experience

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> Did any of you have to go to 20 caps till you saw something?

> D mentions holding at a lower dose ,however when nothing more

> is noted as you up the dose but not sure what to do if not much is

> noted at all.

I only really have two comments that might be helpful.

I eventually got my son up to 15 Virastop caps per day [5 caps 3x per

day], along with 3000mg OLE 3x per day. My son was on OLE for 2 years

and Virastop for the second year of that.

I did notice improvement, but eventually it started causing problems

[even with yeast control], so I removed it.

Then I added high doses of vitamin C [required carnitine for proper

absorption] and lysine. These two things eliminated even more

viruses, plus they are what was required to keep new viruses from

going into the brain.

Do you give vitamin C and lysine also?

Dana

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If there is anyone who may have experienced a similar pattern while

dosing virastop I would appreciate some feedback to compare with. Im

hoping to get a better picture in what we may be seeing hopefully

wrap up our trial and return to chelation at full speed.

Yes im considering keeping both but right now im at a crossroad if

the VS /OLE is doing much of anything for us. We are currently

reducing VS dose and noting if any response. (Pretty much just

holding at a maintenance dose)

Thanks please take a look at original post and consider sharing some

of your experience

Thanks again

Kenny v

We have been doing OLE/ Virastop for well over 3 months now. We

started with Just OLE working up to a maintenance dose than added VS

after a few weeks. We started slowly with one cap of VS increasing

1-2 caps per day (as suggested) worked up to NOW 5 caps 3x's daily.

We increased slow and steady and tried to note/ apply in a stair step

pattern. Still to date haven't seen anything As we continued we did

see some increase of yeast in the beginning only but that's

about it. We have noticed some little stuff. But not sure it's been a

viral response? ? So pretty much nothing I can say for sure or

anything that would resemble or show signs of viral response from

anything I have read. I can't say for sure that my kiddo is a

responder or a viral kiddo. Other than he does not get sick nor have

yet to entertain a viral protocol.

In My notes D mentions that some may not experience that until

they hit a higher therapeutic dose around 15-20, caps She also

mentions 12-15 caps in another Virastop overview. Well we hit 15 for

a week so far and didn't see anything. So right now not sure as to

what to do?? . Keep increasing to get to

that number 20 caps? (We are now up to 5 caps 3times daily) or start

reducing and note any possible regressions?

That's what I have decided but still like to hear what you all

think. Or if anyone had similar experience?

Again till now im stumped because we haven't much of any response/ a

wow or anything that would resemble viral activity. Could we be

missing something? …

Did any one have to go to 20 caps till you saw something when 15 did

not note anything?

D also mentions holding at a lower dose, however when nothing

more

is noted as you up the dose but not sure what to do if not much is

noted at all?

What im trying to figure out is if I slowly reduce than stay at

holding point says (3 caps 3 times daily for 3 more weeks) Total of 4

months. Keep reducing , stay with it at least another month or so

and not much of anything is noted would you say we exhausted this

trial ?

Appreciate your experience thank you so much

Kenny V

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> Hello fellow listmates I could really use your take on this one.

> Wanted to post a few weeks ago but was not sure till we had a

better

> idea how current protocol was going.

snipp....

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Dana yes thanks

We have been giving plenty of Vit C for a long time

3-6 grams daily all throughout chelation/ antiviral protocols

No lysine as have never suspected the herpes virus/. never had cold

sores or the like

And still to date have not seen a viral response manifest it self in

any way.

I know there are many ways about this just figured the VS/OLE/ High

dose C would tell us something if in fact we might have a viral kiddo.

Again by gut feeling id say no…he's been a chelation responder from

the get go. He never had or became ill, no antibiotics or ear

infections ever. Didn't have a direct vaccine reaction that we aware

of, Just slowly drifted away from us however we are about 85- 90%

there. Just trying to cover the bases in case we may have missed

something.

Thanks again for all your help over the years

Kenny v

> > Did any of you have to go to 20 caps till you saw something?

> > D mentions holding at a lower dose ,however when nothing

more

> > is noted as you up the dose but not sure what to do if not much

is

> > noted at all.

>

>

> I only really have two comments that might be helpful.

>

> I eventually got my son up to 15 Virastop caps per day [5 caps 3x

per

> day], along with 3000mg OLE 3x per day. My son was on OLE for 2

years

> and Virastop for the second year of that.

>

> I did notice improvement, but eventually it started causing problems

> [even with yeast control], so I removed it.

>

> Then I added high doses of vitamin C [required carnitine for proper

> absorption] and lysine. These two things eliminated even more

> viruses, plus they are what was required to keep new viruses from

> going into the brain.

>

> Do you give vitamin C and lysine also?

>

> Dana

>

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> No lysine as have never suspected the herpes virus/. never had cold

> sores or the like

At my house, lysine eliminated mouth sores, warts in various places,

heel cracks [this also required folic], plus increased language and

eliminated the last of the visual stims and hand flapping.

> And still to date have not seen a viral response manifest it self in

> any way.

Are you seeing any increased yeast? That is almost a sure sign of

viruses.

In the beginning, I did not see anything until I tried to *remove* the

anti-viral [i was using OLE at the time] and my kids seriously regressed.

>>Just slowly drifted away from us however we are about 85- 90%

> there. Just trying to cover the bases in case we may have missed

> something.

What are his remaining issues?

Dana