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Nickienoo,

Lamar here,

Morning headaches are often associated with sleep apnea which can be a part

of CMT. Another cause can be sinus problems not related to CMT. Since you

are in England, you may want to print out from

http://www.cmt.org.uk/coping.htm

" It is an unfortunate fact that, on top of everything else, in a minority of

cases, the diaphragm can be affected by CMT. In the majority of cases, even

if the diaphragm is affected, we are not aware of it. No one breathes to the

full capacity of their lungs anyway, unless you're an Olympic athlete. Most

of us are only aware of a slight breathlessness after walking quickly, and

that, more often than not, is down to an out of condition body generally, as

much as any problem with lung function. Some people may have a problem

sleeping - in which case lying flat doesn't help, so sleeping propped up or

on your side may be all that is required.

However, in rare cases, lung function becomes a major problem, and can

manifest itself as severe headaches, particularly in the mornings. This is

because at night, the breathing pattern changes to give deeper, slower

breaths. If the lungs aren't functioning properly, this pattern is

disrupted, resulting in carbon dioxide being retained in the body, hence the

headaches. It is important to get this problem checked thoroughly by

specialists. A sleep study in hospital can confirm what the problem is, and

it can be cured by the use of certain drugs, which alter the sleep pattern

and thereby eliminate the problem.

Don't panic at this piece of new information. Major diaphragm weakness is

very rare, and any problems caused by it can be quite easily sorted out. "

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From: nickienoo@...

Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 10:37 AM

Subject: [] Headaches

My wife Maggie (CMTer type 1)suffers with severe headaches which

generally start as she opens her eyes in the mornings (unlike some

non CMTers who apparently get them at bedtime!!!)LOL.Her specialist!

who we are hoping to change says this could not be anything to do

with her CMT.We have an appointment with our normally rude and

indifferent local doctor in 20 hours time (we are in England)and

would like to go armed with information about how headaches and CMT

can be related and also how it can treated.Can anyone please help?

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Could be related to sleep apnea. If any other symptoms are present such as

loud snoring, restless sleep, waking up with an accelerated heartrate,

persistent sinus problems, push the doctor for a sleep study. Sleep apnea

has been tied to CMT, however many physicians now feel that 20% of the

population suffers from some form of sleep apnea. Much higher than

previously believed.

Good luck,

BC

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Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 7:37 AM

Subject: [] Headaches

> My wife Maggie (CMTer type 1)suffers with severe headaches which

> generally start as she opens her eyes in the mornings (unlike some

> non CMTers who apparently get them at bedtime!!!)LOL.Her specialist!

> who we are hoping to change says this could not be anything to do

> with her CMT.We have an appointment with our normally rude and

> indifferent local doctor in 20 hours time (we are in England)and

> would like to go armed with information about how headaches and CMT

> can be related and also how it can treated.Can anyone please help?

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Tell Maggie I am sorry she has those horrible headaches. Until someone

actually has one, they have no idea the agony and pain. I too have CMT, and

I have migraine headaches. I am now 41 years old and have had migraine

headaches since I was in my late teens. Now there are medicines available

with a prescription for migraines. In the old days, one had to take

injections that would put them so sleep for hours, which made it very

difficult to work or function. I use Imitrex nasal spray. I feel relief

for my headache within several minutes. It does not make you sleepy. There

are numerous medications on the market now for migraine headache sufferers

if that is what she has.

I inherited my headaches from my father and his father (my grandfather) had

them as well. Not CMT related because my mother and her side of the family

are the ones with CMT.

Good luck at the doctor. I hope they find something to help her with the

headaches.

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From: <nickienoo@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 9:37 AM

Subject: [] Headaches

> My wife Maggie (CMTer type 1)suffers with severe headaches which

> generally start as she opens her eyes in the mornings (unlike some

> non CMTers who apparently get them at bedtime!!!)LOL.Her specialist!

> who we are hoping to change says this could not be anything to do

> with her CMT.We have an appointment with our normally rude and

> indifferent local doctor in 20 hours time (we are in England)and

> would like to go armed with information about how headaches and CMT

> can be related and also how it can treated.Can anyone please help?

>

>

>

>

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I also have migraine and take Imitrex. I have the pills and the

injections. As a rule the Imitrex works. When it doesn't I go in and get a

shot of Demerol (sp) That will let me sleep and when I wake up hopefully

the migraine is gone. They have a new drug that they call a loopy pop.

When you have taken your migraine medical and it doesn't work you take the

loopy pop and run it on the inside of your mouth and you get the pain killer

right into the blood stream. You don't have to go in to the doctor for a

pain shot. I feel sorry for anyone that has migraine. When you get the

migraine you can't hardly function until it goes away. I tell people that

now that I have found migraine I have a life.

Good luck to you.

Janice Hagadorn

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Have any of you migraine sufferers had testing done for food allergies? My

mother had severe migraines from age 15 through age 47. She did not become

menopausal until after her 52nd birthday, although over the years various

doctors blamed the headaches on her menstrual cycle. She would be bed

ridden for several days with nausea, light sensitivity and terrible pain.

Had a bazillion tests run over the years, nothing worked until a friend who

happened to be a nurse suggested keeping a journal of all food consumed, in

relation to the onset of the headaches. After 3 months of doing this a

pattern was clear. Any time she consumed hard cheese such as parmesan and

also most foods containing sulfites the headaches showed up. After several

conclusive tests, (consuming these foods followed by headaches) she

eliminated the offending foods and the headaches ceased. She has been

migraine free for the past 20 years by keeping a strict diet.

BC

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From: Hagadorn, Janice D (NITC) <HAGADORNJD@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 10:31 AM

Subject: RE: [] Headaches

> I also have migraine and take Imitrex. I have the pills and the

> injections. As a rule the Imitrex works. When it doesn't I go in and get

a

> shot of Demerol (sp) That will let me sleep and when I wake up hopefully

> the migraine is gone. They have a new drug that they call a loopy pop.

> When you have taken your migraine medical and it doesn't work you take the

> loopy pop and run it on the inside of your mouth and you get the pain

killer

> right into the blood stream. You don't have to go in to the doctor for a

> pain shot. I feel sorry for anyone that has migraine. When you get the

> migraine you can't hardly function until it goes away. I tell people that

> now that I have found migraine I have a life.

> Good luck to you.

>

> Janice Hagadorn

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In a message dated 2/7/2001 4:51:15 PM Pacific Standard Time,

BILL@... writes:

<< Have any of you migraine sufferers had testing done for food allergies? >>

I am allergic to Dr pepper. The headaches it gives me are so bad that I have

to get a pain shot. I am out for days.

jenny

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Dick S. here

I too have/had headaches. I went my entire life(now 42) having had less than

ten headaches, other than hangovers they don't count. Three years ago they

started. Every day. Some short blasts, some longer achy types and some like

muscle tension. After 1 1/2 years of this my Dr.(same one who correctly

diagnosed CMT) hit on the cure. Doxepim at night. Imitrex nasal spray for

the cluster type. Knock on wood it works good! Good luck with yours.

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Hi Bill,

As a migraine sufferer, yes there are certain foods to avoid (chocolate,

smoked meats, wines, cheeses etc). I have taken allergy injections for

numerous years. In my case, I am only allergic to inhalants (pollen, dust,

various kinds of trees, grasses), I didn't test positive to any food

allergies. It seems the older I get, the fewer migraine headaches I have.

I have also noticed that having a sinus headache will sometimes throw me

into having a migraine.

I'm happy your mother doesn't have to suffer like she once did.

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From: Bill , Digitec Security <BILL@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:09 PM

Subject: Re: [] Headaches

> Have any of you migraine sufferers had testing done for food allergies? My

> mother had severe migraines from age 15 through age 47. She did not become

> menopausal until after her 52nd birthday, although over the years various

> doctors blamed the headaches on her menstrual cycle. She would be bed

> ridden for several days with nausea, light sensitivity and terrible pain.

> Had a bazillion tests run over the years, nothing worked until a friend

who

> happened to be a nurse suggested keeping a journal of all food consumed,

in

> relation to the onset of the headaches. After 3 months of doing this a

> pattern was clear. Any time she consumed hard cheese such as parmesan and

> also most foods containing sulfites the headaches showed up. After several

> conclusive tests, (consuming these foods followed by headaches) she

> eliminated the offending foods and the headaches ceased. She has been

> migraine free for the past 20 years by keeping a strict diet.

> BC

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Hagadorn, Janice D (NITC) <HAGADORNJD@...>

> < >

> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 10:31 AM

> Subject: RE: [] Headaches

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> > I also have migraine and take Imitrex. I have the pills and the

> > injections. As a rule the Imitrex works. When it doesn't I go in and

get

> a

> > shot of Demerol (sp) That will let me sleep and when I wake up

hopefully

> > the migraine is gone. They have a new drug that they call a loopy pop.

> > When you have taken your migraine medical and it doesn't work you take

the

> > loopy pop and run it on the inside of your mouth and you get the pain

> killer

> > right into the blood stream. You don't have to go in to the doctor for

a

> > pain shot. I feel sorry for anyone that has migraine. When you get the

> > migraine you can't hardly function until it goes away. I tell people

that

> > now that I have found migraine I have a life.

> > Good luck to you.

> >

> > Janice Hagadorn

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Have you ever tried Chiropratic treatments for you migranes. I used to get them

all the time when I was younger and was able to be over them in 30 -45 min after

a treatment. I had pinched nerves in my upper neck. I know a lot of you don't

like chiro's but my family uses them all the time.

Jane

----- Original Message -----

From: Hagadorn, Janice D (NITC)

Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:51 PM

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Subject: RE: [] Headaches

I also have migraine and take Imitrex. I have the pills and the

injections. As a rule the Imitrex works. When it doesn't I go in and get a

shot of Demerol (sp) That will let me sleep and when I wake up hopefully

the migraine is gone. They have a new drug that they call a loopy pop.

When you have taken your migraine medical and it doesn't work you take the

loopy pop and run it on the inside of your mouth and you get the pain killer

right into the blood stream. You don't have to go in to the doctor for a

pain shot. I feel sorry for anyone that has migraine. When you get the

migraine you can't hardly function until it goes away. I tell people that

now that I have found migraine I have a life.

Good luck to you.

Janice Hagadorn

a

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In a message dated 2/9/2001 5:27:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,

eemarilee@... writes:

<< Novo-Propranolol " . I am very happy to say; I have not even had a

slight head, never mind a migraine. Thank goodness for all the wonderful

and supportive people in my world.

At present; I wear my neck brace when ever I walk and sit in a chair

that doesn't have head support. Laying down and sitting in my high back

chair is a nice brake throughout the days and evenings. My neck muscles are

fairly weak and can only support my head weight for a short time.

Thanks for listening, Marilee

>>

Marilee

I too have had headaches for years, mine start at the base of the neck, if

they don't stop with ibuprofen or tylenol, I have to go to bed. I know what

you go through. Even though I've had tremors all of my life, I never took

anything until a year ago. Started taking propranolol, headaches are almost

non existant now. I know that's what helped me. Still have lots of popping in

my neck, and most days I can't hold my head to look straight ahead without it

shaking. My head also favors the right side. By this, I mean it turns to the

right. Being fitted for glasses several years ago, it was brought to my

attention. Since then, I started looking at pictures, almost all of my

pictures, my head is leaning or turning to the right.

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In a message dated 2/9/01 8:03:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, ktbugg54@...

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<< Still have lots of popping in my neck, >>

Hi ,

Is the noise in your neck a pop or a crack sound. I have a crack sound

every now and then that you can here for a city block. Mine is from

arthritis and the doctor advised me to take one 81mg of aspirin a day to thin

the blood so I would have better flow to the brain, and wipe that thought out

of your mind " it didn't work " :-)

E

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Hello All:

Migraines; I was getting often, lately they have been coming more

frequent. One weekend I had to call an ambulance, it was my fourth day of

staying in the dark and sorry too say but vomiting as well. I was becoming

very worried, since I was unable to keep anything down including my

medication. Being unable to keep my epilepsy medicine down. If a major

muscle spasms turned into a seizure. That would be so unkind for my son to

witness and deal with, since it is just the two of us.

After that; my Occupational Therapist, lent me a couple neck braces to

wear. As well as my G.P. gave me a prescription for migraine prevention

pills " Novo-Propranolol " . I am very happy to say; I have not even had a

slight head, never mind a migraine. Thank goodness for all the wonderful

and supportive people in my world.

At present; I wear my neck brace when ever I walk and sit in a chair

that doesn't have head support. Laying down and sitting in my high back

chair is a nice brake throughout the days and evenings. My neck muscles are

fairly weak and can only support my head weight for a short time.

Thanks for listening, Marilee

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From: Lee Edison <eemarilee@...>

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Date: Friday, February 09, 2001 4:24 PM

Subject: Re: [] Headaches

>Hello All:

>

> Migraines; I was getting often, lately they have been coming more

>frequent. One weekend I had to call an ambulance, it was my fourth day of

>staying in the dark and sorry too say but vomiting as well. I was becoming

>very worried, since I was unable to keep anything down including my

>medication. Being unable to keep my epilepsy medicine down. If a major

>muscle spasms turned into a seizure. >

>Thanks for listening, Marilee

>>>>>Hi Marilee, I too have migrains that cause light sensitivity to eyes

and vomit with them they get so bad, I have to rest my head/neck a lot too,

in my recliner several times per day. Can you explain please what you mean

by " if a major muscle spasm turned into a seizure " . A muscle spasm is one

thing a seizure another. You confused me here, LOL, ~>Becky M.

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I would like to caution both of you and others. Though propranolol is a

very good medication, some precautions are needed in it's use. Always check

the pulse before taking it. If it is under 60/ min do NOT take it without a

doctor's approval (it slows the heart beat and if it is too slow to start

with it could be serious). Another thing to always remember--NEVER stop it

all at once. If for any reason you need to stop it MUST be under

supervision and tapered off. If a person has been on it for some time and

suddenly stops the pulse and B/P will both increase and this can be to a

potentially serious point. Deaths due to stopping it suddenly have been

recorded. It is safe to stop it by slowly tapering it off.

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From: ktbugg54@...

Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 07:54 PM

Subject: Re: [] Headaches

In a message dated 2/9/2001 5:27:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,

eemarilee@... writes:

<< Novo-Propranolol " . I am very happy to say; I have not even had a

slight head, never mind a migraine. Thank goodness for all the wonderful

and supportive people in my world.

At present; I wear my neck brace when ever I walk and sit in a chair

that doesn't have head support. Laying down and sitting in my high back

chair is a nice brake throughout the days and evenings. My neck muscles

are

fairly weak and can only support my head weight for a short time.

Thanks for listening, Marilee

>>

Marilee

I too have had headaches for years, mine start at the base of the neck, if

they don't stop with ibuprofen or tylenol, I have to go to bed. I know

what

you go through. Even though I've had tremors all of my life, I never took

anything until a year ago. Started taking propranolol, headaches are

almost

non existant now. I know that's what helped me. Still have lots of popping

in

my neck, and most days I can't hold my head to look straight ahead without

it

shaking. My head also favors the right side. By this, I mean it turns to

the

right. Being fitted for glasses several years ago, it was brought to my

attention. Since then, I started looking at pictures, almost all of my

pictures, my head is leaning or turning to the right.

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In a message dated 2/9/2001 10:09:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jege6666@... writes:

<< Hi ,

Is the noise in your neck a pop or a crack sound. I have a crack sound

every now and then that you can here for a city block. Mine is from

arthritis and the doctor advised me to take one 81mg of aspirin a day to

thin

the blood so I would have better flow to the brain, and wipe that thought

out

of your mind " it didn't work " :-)

E >>

It pops , sounds like you can hear it for a city block. It started

several years ago, had my head down working, when I looked up, it popped. It

didn't hurt, kind of felt good. Lots of people go to chiropractors to get

their neck popped. I can do it myself. Before I started propranolol, too much

popping would trigger a headache.

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In a message dated 2/9/2001 10:47:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, lls@...

writes:

<< I would like to caution both of you and others. Though propranolol is a

very good medication, some precautions are needed in it's use. Always check

the pulse before taking it. If it is under 60/ min do NOT take it without a

doctor's approval (it slows the heart beat and if it is too slow to start

with it could be serious >>

Thank Lamar, for your caring. It really is appreciated. I always ask

questions before taking any medicine. I have a Drug Facts book that I use

also.

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I grew up with migrane headaches from about the age of 5. My eyes were

sensitive to light, noise bothered me

and vomited as well. I found relief from chiropractic treatments. I haven't

had one in several years. " Knock on Wood "

Jane

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From: Maxwell

Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 8:28 PM

Subject: Re: [] Headaches

-----Original Message-----

From: Lee Edison <eemarilee@...>

< >

Date: Friday, February 09, 2001 4:24 PM

Subject: Re: [] Headaches

>Hello All:

>

> Migraines; I was getting often, lately they have been coming more

>frequent. One weekend I had to call an ambulance, it was my fourth day of

>staying in the dark and sorry too say but vomiting as well. I was becoming

>very worried, since I was unable to keep anything down including my

>medication. Being unable to keep my epilepsy medicine down. If a major

>muscle spasms turned into a seizure. >

>Thanks for listening, Marilee

>

>_________________________________________________________________________

>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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  • 4 years later...

Just like anything else Ron, headaches come and go. They can't be attributed to

Xolair unless you had them immediately after the first shot.

Pat

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