Guest guest Posted July 2, 2000 Report Share Posted July 2, 2000 Saving $160 per ear infection? How do they figure that? Doesn't cost anyone anything when my child gets an ear infection... > >This makes me angry. Wouldn't want any parents to miss time off work. The >sad thing is, that this is how they got so many parents to agree to the >chickenpox vaccine--its convenience!!! > >http://jama.ama-assn.org/issues/v283n11/abs/jsc90347.html ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2000 Report Share Posted July 2, 2000 My pediatrician just gave me an info sheet on this vaccine, and I've been trying to find out more about it. What really strikes me is that according to the sheet, your child is at much higher risk of contracting a pneumococcal disease if he's in a " group care " setting. Does anyone know anything about the risks attached to this particular vaccine? Peggy Vaccinationsegroups wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Free, Unlimited Calls Anywhere! > Visit Firetalk.com - click below. > 1/5479/10/_/489317/_/962527411/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > There are 9 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. RE: WAY OT: endometriosis Q? > From: " Mom2Q " <Mom2Q@...> > 2. Pneumococcal Vaccine > From: Jcannand@... > 3. Re: OT - Fluoride/Mint Free Toothpaste > From: squeaksoup@... > 4. Re: heart beat and pregnancy-OT > From: attachedmama@... > 5. Anybody in Georgia who can help?? > From: Sheri Nakken <snakken@...> > 6. Re: UPDATE...3 month old with cough > From: attachedmama@... > 7. Re: UPDATE...3 month old with cough > From: Jcannand@... > 8. Re: UPDATE...3 month old with cough > From: Sheri Nakken <snakken@...> > 9. Re: heart beat and pregnancy-OT > From: " sindea " <sindea@...> > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:35:23 -0600 > From: " Mom2Q " <Mom2Q@...> > Subject: RE: WAY OT: endometriosis Q? > > I have endo. It was quite bad in my early 20's, so much so I required > surgeries and medication, it was horrible. Then I was told I would probably > never have children, thankfully they were wrong. I will say that having > children was the best thing that could have happened. I still have some > pain but it is mild and totally bearable, unlike before where I had to be > hospitalized on different occasions. They say that having children helps > many women and that breastfeeding stops the growth. For me this is the > case, I'm sure it if different for every woman. > > I would recommend taking: > > Omega 3 -essential fatty acids > Provides additional protection by inhibiting the growth of endometrial cells > and reduced inflammation > > Acidophilus > Ensures the growth of healthy gut flora necessary for reducing the toxic > load of the body > > Beta-carotene(Vit A) > Vitmain C > Vitamin E > These 3 can help to reduce excessive menstrual bleeding and bolster immune > function > > > List Owner of Vaccinations and Vaccine Info > www.geocities.com/mom2q (my work in progress!) > Mom of two great kids who are vaccine free! > > Re: heart beat and pregnancy-OT > > It is not anxiety is it? I did not know that is what was going on with me- lame old anxiety attacks! I take magnesium to make my heart function at its best, now, and that controls that anxiety... > Sindea > www.hurphotography.com > Has anybody ever felt like there heart beat was fluttering (like when you are nervous) during pregnancy? Mine has been doing it alot. When I feel my pulse, it almost feels like it skips a beat. My midwife didn't seem too concerned when I mentioned it to her. > > L. > " In time and with water, everything changes. " Leonardo da Vinci > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > [This message contained attachments] > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2000 Report Share Posted July 2, 2000 At 02:00 PM 07/02/2000 -0700, you wrote: >My pediatrician just gave me an info sheet on this vaccine, and I've >been trying to find out more about it. What really strikes me is that >according to the sheet, your child is at much higher risk of contracting >a pneumococcal disease if he's in a " group care " setting. Does anyone >know anything about the risks attached to this particular vaccine? > >Peggy > Its another in a long line of meningitis vaccines. Meningitis is caused by primarily 6 or so bacteria (they say - I don't believe very many bacteria cause very many thing - I say you or your child is already weakened and the bacteria can then thrive - they are around all the time - but enough of that...). First they gave you the HIB vaccine and then we started to see an increase in pneumococcal meningitis (nature abhores a vacuum). And now we have this one and next what will we see. There isn't enough testing or time to know the true risks. Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin Bookstore - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/bookstor.htm International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Ok everyone - I need your help now more than ever. The immunologist said that my son needs this vaccine because his serotypes are critically low and he has no immunity to ANY virus or infection. I am convinced that it was the vaccines that caused all of his " autism and immune " problems because he was a perfect toddler and exactly 3 months after the 1 year shots, he regressed into autism and his immune system crashed. Can anyone tell me about this Pneumococcal vaccine, it's called pnemovax the doctor said. It's one injection and he feels that it will miraculously " cure " my son's immune system. Please shed some light on this - anything good or bad will help me make my decision Thanks so much !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Here's some information: http://www.whale.to/vaccines/pneumovax_h.html *Pneumovax *[back] Pneumococcal vaccines<http://www.whale.to/vaccines/pneumococcal1.html> [insert] Pneumovax II <http://www.whale.to/vaccines/pneumococcal.html> (Aventis Pasteur MSD Ltd <http://www.whale.to/v/aventis.html>) Polysaccharide from each of 23 capsular types of pneumococcus VAERS reports <http://www.whale.to/vaccines/pneumovax1.html> Total reports: 2651 Reported hospitalizations: 1294 Reported deaths: 40 http://www.whale.to/vaccines/pneumococcal.html *DATA SHEET* *Pneumovax II (Pneumococcal Vaccine, Polyvalent) * *PRESENTATION* Single-dose vial containing, in 0.5 ml, 25 mcg of each polysaccharide type derived from capsules of the 23 most prevalent pneumococci dissolved in isotonic saline containing 0.25% phenol. * * *USES* A pneumococcal vaccine. 'Pneumovax' II is a sterile liquid vaccine consisting of a mixture of highly purified capsular polysaccharides from the 23 most prevalent or invasive pneumococcal types accounting for at least 90% of pneumococcal blood isolates and at least 85% of all pneumococcal isolates from usually sterile sites determined by ongoing surveillance (see chart). * * *23 pneumococcal capsular types included in Pneumovax II* *Nomenclature Pneumococcal types* *Danish* 1 2 3 4 5 6B 7F 8 9N 9V *US* 1 2 3 4 5 26 51 8 9 68 *Danish* 10A 11A 12F 14 15B 17F 18C 19F 19A 20 *US* 34 43 12 14 54 17 56 19 57 20 *Danish* 22F 23F 33F *US* 22 23 70 Protective capsular type-specific antibody levels usually develop by the third week following vaccination. 'Pneumovax' II is indicated for immunisation against pneumococcal disease caused by those pneumococcal types included in the vaccine. 'Pneumovax' II will not immunise against capsular types of pneumococcus other than those contained in the vaccine. It should be considered for all persons 2 years of age or older in whom there is an increased risk of morbidity and mortality from pneumococcal pneumonia. 'Pneumovax' II may not be effective in preventing infection resulting from basilar skull fracture or from external communication with cerebrospinal fluid, * * *DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION* *Do nor inject intravenously; avoid intradermal administration* Administer a single 0.5 ml dose of 'Pneumovax' II subcutaneously or intramuscularly (preferably in the deltoid muscle or lateral mid-thigh, with appropriate precautions to avoid intravascular administration. * * *Revaccination* *Adults: *Routine vaccination of adults with *'Pneumovax' *II is not recommended because of an increased incidence and seventy of adverse reactions among healthy adults revaccinated with pneumococcal vaccines at intervals under three years. This was probably due to sustained high antibody levels. Also, persons who received the 14-valent vaccine should not be routinely revaccinated with the 23-valent vaccine as increased coverage is modest and duration of protection is not well defined, Although routine revaccination is not recommended, revaccinaton is recommended for adults with chronic conditions which increase the risk of fatal pneumococcal infection and for those shown to have a rapid decline in pneumococcal antibody levels (eg. patients with nephrotic syndrome, renal failure, or transplant recipients, Based on clinical study results, revaccination with 'Pneumovax' II is recommended for adults at highest risk of fatal pneumococcal infection who were initially vaccinated with 'Pneumovax (Pneumococcal Vaccine, Polyvalent MSD) four or more years previously without a serious or severe reaction. In addition, it is recommended that revaccination should be considered for adults at highest risk who received the 23-valent vaccine six or more years previously. * * *Children: *It is recommended that revaccination after three to five years should be considered for children at highest risk for pneumococcal infection (e.g. children with asplenia, sickle cell disease, or nephrotic syndrome) who would be 10 years old or younger at revaccination. Such children should not, however, be revaccinated within three years Children at highest risk for pneumococcal infection may have lower peak antibody levels and/or more rapid antibody decline than do healthy adults. There is evidence that some of these high-risk children (e.g. asplenic children) benefit from revaccination with vaccine containing antigen 7F, 8, 19F. * * *CONTRA-INDICATIONS, WARNINGS, ETC.* *Contra-indication* Hypersensitivity to any component of the vaccine. Adrenaline injection BP (1:1,000) must be immediately available should an acute anaphlactoid reaction occur. Revaccination with 'Pneumovax' II is contra-indicated, except as described under *Revaccination.* Do not use 'Pneumovax' II less than ten days prior to or during immuno-suppressive therapy. Patients with Hodgkin's disease who have received extensive chemotherapy and/or nodal irradiation. 'Pneumovax' II should not be giver to pregnant women since it is not known whether the vaccine can cause fetal harm, or affect the outcome of pregnancy. Breast-feeding mothers should not be given 'Pneumovax II. * * *Warnings* The expected serum antibody response may not be obtained in patients receiving immuno-uppresive therapy. lntradermal administration may cause severe local reactions. * * *Precautions* Caution and appropriate care should be exercised in administering 'Pneumovax' II to individuals with severely compromised cardiac and/or pulmonary function in whom a systemic reaction would pose a significant risk. Delay the use of 'Pneumvax' in any febrile respiratory illness or other active infection, except when this delay may involve even greater risk. Required prophylactic antibiotic therapy against pneumococcal infection should not be stopped after immunisation with 'Pneumovax' II. It is recommended that a clear note of vaccination with 'Pneumovax' II be kept in the patients hospital and general practitioner records. * * *Children under 2 years of age: *'Pneumovax' is not recommended because antibody response to capsular types that most often cause pneumococcal disease in this age group may be poor. Safety and efficacy in children under 2 years have not been established. * * *Adverse reactions* Adverse reactions occurring commonly are: Local injection site soreness, erythema, and induration. Adverse reactions occurring occasionally are: * * *Body as a whole* Low-grade fever (<100.9�F/38.3C). Adverse reactions occurring rarely are: * * *Body as a whole* Headache, fever (>102�F/38.9�C), malaise. asthenia. * * *Haematologic/Lymphatic* Adenitis. * * *Hypersensitivity* Anaphytactoid reactions, serum sickness. * * *Musculoskeletal* Arthralgia, myalgia, arthritis. * * *Skin* Rash, urticaria. On rare occasions, patients with otherwise stabilised idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura have relapsed with a thrombocytopenia that has recurred 2-14 days after vaccination, and lasted for up to two weeks. Reactions of greater seventy, duration, or extent are unusual. Neurological disorders such as paraesthesiae and acute radiculoneurooathy, including the Guillain-Barre syndrome, have rarely been reported at the time of vaccination, but with no established cause-and-effect relationship. On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Jeannine <JM8031@...> wrote: > Ok everyone - I need your help now more than ever. > > The immunologist said that my son needs this vaccine because his serotypes > are critically low and he has no immunity to ANY virus or infection. > > I am convinced that it was the vaccines that caused all of his " autism and > immune " problems because he was a perfect toddler and exactly 3 months > after the 1 year shots, he regressed into autism and his immune system > crashed. > > Can anyone tell me about this Pneumococcal vaccine, it's called pnemovax > the > doctor said. > > It's one injection and he feels that it will miraculously " cure " my son's > immune system. > > Please shed some light on this - anything good or bad will help me make my > decision > > Thanks so much !!! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 > The immunologist said that my son needs this vaccine because his serotypes > are critically low and he has no immunity to ANY virus or infection. If he has no immunity, a vaccine won't create any for him. In my experience with my son, viruses just went straight into his brain. Try giving vitamin A, vitamin C, and lysine Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 At 08:27 AM 7/6/2008, Jeannine wrote: >Ok everyone - I need your help now more than ever. > > > >The immunologist said that my son needs this vaccine because his serotypes >are critically low and he has no immunity to ANY virus or infection. Give one vaccine and various strains and new diseases appear with different strains. > > >I am convinced that it was the vaccines that caused all of his " autism and >immune " problems because he was a perfect toddler and exactly 3 months >after the 1 year shots, he regressed into autism and his immune system >crashed. Of course they did > > >Can anyone tell me about this Pneumococcal vaccine, it's called pnemovax the >doctor said. It is prevnar for children (pneumovax is the one for adults with different strains) How old is he? >It's one injection and he feels that it will miraculously " cure " my son's >immune system. No, it will not cure an immune system - no vaccine cures an immune system even from their propaganda Vaccines only injure immune systems > > >Please shed some light on this - anything good or bad will help me make my >decision Never never in a million years would I do this http://www.wellwithin1.com/prevnar.htm Sheri listowner -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 > >Can anyone tell me about this Pneumococcal vaccine, it's called pnemovax the >doctor said. Pneumovax is the vaccine given to adults, rarely children and NOT recommended even by them for under 2 It has 23 strains of pneumococcal bacteria It also contains PHENOL http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/p/pneumovax_23/pneumovax_pi.pdf Again how old is the child and how will this fix the immune system? Sheri listowner -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers & Childhood Disease & Homeopathy Email classes start April 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Every vaccine carries with it the risk of death. That won't help your son's immune system much. Don't do it. Winnie Pneumococcal Vaccine Vaccinations , , Autism-Immune > Ok everyone - I need your help now more than ever. > > > > The immunologist said that my son needs this vaccine because his > serotypesare critically low and he has no immunity to ANY virus > or infection. > > > > I am convinced that it was the vaccines that caused all of his " > autism and > immune " problems because he was a perfect toddler and exactly 3 > monthsafter the 1 year shots, he regressed into autism and his > immune system > crashed. > > > > Can anyone tell me about this Pneumococcal vaccine, it's called > pnemovax the > doctor said. > > It's one injection and he feels that it will miraculously " > cure " my son's > immune system. > > > > Please shed some light on this - anything good or bad will help > me make my > decision > > > > Thanks so much !!! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Ask your doctor EXACTLY how this vaccine will build the immune system. Ask him what EXACTLY is serotypesare and how does it work then ask Exactly how the vaccine will correct it. Then whatever he says ask him for the scientific proof. Then ask him to put it in writing that he will guarantee it will work and he will guarantee NO side or direct negative effects from the vaccine. Jeannine-you are convinced vaccines caused the childs problem, why would you think another poison will correct the problem caused by other vaccines. If your doctor said this vaccine will CURE your child he is a dangerous quack and you should fire him yesterday. I am sorry for your situation, many of us have been there. You must decide to follow your gut feeling and learn to protect yourself and family from the doubled sided false reasoning of the allopathic doctor. Which is take my poison(drug) if you get better we will tell you the drug did it. If you get worse or die we will just say it was your fault. You were allergic. We will blame the body instead of the poison(drug). All vaccines are poisons and cause disease, disability and death. No vaccine can prevent disease or build health. Good luck Jim O' Founder of S.I.N.B.A.D. Shots in body's are deadly Pneumococcal Vaccine Vaccinations, , Autism-Immune > Ok everyone - I need your help now more than ever. > > > > The immunologist said that my son needs this vaccine because his > serotypesare critically low and he has no immunity to ANY virus > or infection. > > > > I am convinced that it was the vaccines that caused all of his " > autism and > immune " problems because he was a perfect toddler and exactly 3 > monthsafter the 1 year shots, he regressed into autism and his > immune system > crashed. > > > > Can anyone tell me about this Pneumococcal vaccine, it's called > pnemovax the > doctor said. > > It's one injection and he feels that it will miraculously " > cure " my son's > immune system. > > > > Please shed some light on this - anything good or bad will help > me make my > decision > > > > Thanks so much !!! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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