Re: Microbial OAT test, very high ARABINOSE

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My son had the same results, except higher. My DAN explained that

Arabinose is a by-product of yeast, and therefore, a marker.

I think you have to do a seperate test to determine what kind

of yeast your son has and which anti-fungal it will respond to.

We did not do such a test but just tried out different anti-fungals

both naturals and prescription.

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>

>

> Hi group,

>

> My son's microbial oat test just arrived. Everything

> is in the normal range except for ARABINOSE with

> normal level of 0-47 and my son's result was 115. The

> interpretations indicates yeast overgrowth. My

> question is, does anyone know which antifungal

> specifically targets the ARABINOSE? Is this a strain

> of yeast or just a marker that determines fungal

> growth?

>

> Thank you in advance.

>

> lie

>

>

>

>

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> My son's microbial oat test just arrived. Everything

> is in the normal range except for ARABINOSE with

> normal level of 0-47 and my son's result was 115. The

> interpretations indicates yeast overgrowth. My

> question is, does anyone know which antifungal

> specifically targets the ARABINOSE? Is this a strain

> of yeast or just a marker that determines fungal

> growth?

So far as I understand it, it is a yeast byproduct, so it is a marker.

At my house, biotin and GSE eliminated all strains of yeast.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dana,

I've been using GSE and Biotin for my son.

Up to this date I've been increasing and so far I've

been giving him 7 drops of GSE at least 2x a day,

Biotin 2000mcg 2x a day. He is about 44 lbs.

Just recently, I've added Nystatin as well. This

results was approx. 3.5 weeks ago, which I barely got

yesterday. He's been so hyperactive and not in control

of himself as far as hyperactivity and his attention

is poor and showing verbal stims, jumping and

irritable.

For two days now, I've been giving 1 charcoal at

night, to reduce the die off reaction. It seems to be

helping a bit.

I've been giving OLE, lysine and Virastop, so I know

that the die off is worst at this point. It's gotten

so bad that we stopped OLE and Virastop and added the

Nystatin to the antifungal regimen. So, I am imagining

that his yeast is so out of control at this point.

Please help me as far as the dosing for Biotin and

GSE. How much is too much?

Thanks DANA and others.

lie

--- danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

>

> > My son's microbial oat test just arrived.

> Everything

> > is in the normal range except for ARABINOSE with

> > normal level of 0-47 and my son's result was 115.

> The

> > interpretations indicates yeast overgrowth. My

> > question is, does anyone know which antifungal

> > specifically targets the ARABINOSE? Is this a

> strain

> > of yeast or just a marker that determines fungal

> > growth?

>

>

> So far as I understand it, it is a yeast byproduct,

> so it is a marker.

>

> At my house, biotin and GSE eliminated all strains

> of yeast.

>

> Dana

>

>

>

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Hi lie,

We've had pretty good success with Dana's method and have gone up to

7-12 drops 2x daily when yeast is a big issue, but usually go with

3-4. [Our son is 42 lbs.]

Have you tried combining the GSE with enzymes that help weaken the

yeast like No-Fenol (Houston Nutriceuticals) or Candidase

(Enzymedica)? You give the enzymes about an hour+ before the GSE.

That should strengthen the effect of the GSE.

We've also been using probiotics (given at least an hour before

enzymes, and on an empty stomach) such as Sac-B, Culturelle, and

Threelac as well as broader-based probiotics (Kirkmans or Klaire,

etc). The former help you attack the yeast (and bacteria) and the

latter provide more beneficial organisms to compete with the bad stuff

after it gets whacked. Why give the broad-based probiotics? If you

whack down something without providing something else to replace it,

it will just grow back.

Other things for yeast are Pau d'arco, uva ursi, ... rotate these, and

give with food (and the GSE).

Good luck!

> > > My son's microbial oat test just arrived.

> > Everything

> > > is in the normal range except for ARABINOSE with

> > > normal level of 0-47 and my son's result was 115.

> > The

> > > interpretations indicates yeast overgrowth. My

> > > question is, does anyone know which antifungal

> > > specifically targets the ARABINOSE? Is this a

> > strain

> > > of yeast or just a marker that determines fungal

> > > growth?

> >

> >

> > So far as I understand it, it is a yeast byproduct,

> > so it is a marker.

> >

> > At my house, biotin and GSE eliminated all strains

> > of yeast.

> >

> > Dana

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thank you. I didn't know that NO Fenol can weaken the

yeast. I will try that. I will also try to up the GSE.

We are using probiotics...threelac 1/2 packet twice a

day.

My son gets hyperactive with Culturelle, VSL and

probio gold. Don't know why, I guess he is very

sensitive. We are having better succes with Threelac.

Thank you so much for your input.

By the way, whoever uses threelac, there's a special

this month where you buy 3, get one free and free

shipping as well.

Thank you guys.

Now, I just need to know the amount of Biotin that I

should give my son (44 lbs, 5 yo) Dana? anyone.

Thank you again.

lie

--- mildcasedad <mildcasedad@...> wrote:

> Hi lie,

>

> We've had pretty good success with Dana's method and

> have gone up to

> 7-12 drops 2x daily when yeast is a big issue, but

> usually go with

> 3-4. [Our son is 42 lbs.]

>

> Have you tried combining the GSE with enzymes that

> help weaken the

> yeast like No-Fenol (Houston Nutriceuticals) or

> Candidase

> (Enzymedica)? You give the enzymes about an hour+

> before the GSE.

> That should strengthen the effect of the GSE.

>

> We've also been using probiotics (given at least an

> hour before

> enzymes, and on an empty stomach) such as Sac-B,

> Culturelle, and

> Threelac as well as broader-based probiotics

> (Kirkmans or Klaire,

> etc). The former help you attack the yeast (and

> bacteria) and the

> latter provide more beneficial organisms to compete

> with the bad stuff

> after it gets whacked. Why give the broad-based

> probiotics? If you

> whack down something without providing something

> else to replace it,

> it will just grow back.

>

> Other things for yeast are Pau d'arco, uva ursi, ...

> rotate these, and

> give with food (and the GSE).

>

> Good luck!

>

>

> > > > My son's microbial oat test just arrived.

> > > Everything

> > > > is in the normal range except for ARABINOSE

> with

> > > > normal level of 0-47 and my son's result was

> 115.

> > > The

> > > > interpretations indicates yeast overgrowth. My

> > > > question is, does anyone know which antifungal

> > > > specifically targets the ARABINOSE? Is this a

> > > strain

> > > > of yeast or just a marker that determines

> fungal

> > > > growth?

> > >

> > >

> > > So far as I understand it, it is a yeast

> byproduct,

> > > so it is a marker.

> > >

> > > At my house, biotin and GSE eliminated all

> strains

> > > of yeast.

> > >

> > > Dana

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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> Up to this date I've been increasing and so far I've

> been giving him 7 drops of GSE at least 2x a day,

> Biotin 2000mcg 2x a day. He is about 44 lbs.

> Just recently, I've added Nystatin as well. This

> results was approx. 3.5 weeks ago, which I barely got

> yesterday. He's been so hyperactive and not in control

> of himself as far as hyperactivity and his attention

> is poor and showing verbal stims, jumping and

> irritable.

Try adding magnesium. Give the GSE with No-Fenol enzyme.

> I've been giving OLE, lysine and Virastop, so I know

> that the die off is worst at this point. It's gotten

> so bad that we stopped OLE and Virastop and added the

> Nystatin to the antifungal regimen. So, I am imagining

> that his yeast is so out of control at this point.

This is entirely possible. At my house, lysine was NASTY for causing

a lot of yeast, but then it was GREAT at eliminating lots of problems.

> Please help me as far as the dosing for Biotin and

> GSE. How much is too much?

Well, the most biotin I ever gave was 20mg 3x per day. And before I

learned that biotin was great for yeast control, and I was only using

GSE, the most GSE I ever gave was more than 100 drops per day.

Dana