Advice needed re: chelation

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My son is almost 17 and his DAN doctor had him on TD-DMPS for a couple

of years. He then had an allergic reaction, and also had spots that

resembled bruises that he still has, even though we stopped a few

months back. I am now terrified of chelation, and just want to give

the best supplements to support his health until a safer way of

chelation comes along. He never really showed much mercury coming out

on his tests. The last one showed high lead levels. Any advice would

be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Ann

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Have you read the protocol in the files here, this is considered to be

safer than most DAN protocols. It may be different than the DAN

protocol you were using. It is a low dose, oral chelation given on the

time the chelator lasts in the body. We use dmsa/ala. Some of us use

alpha lipoic acid to remove mercury as part of chelation. If he has

lead, which it seems he does, dmsa would remove that and may not cause

the reactions you saw.Again, it could be the dosing/timing etc the DAN

was using.

Also, spots that resemble bruises..were they bruises? Are they gone now?

Bruising during chelation can be associated with not enough vitamin C.

I don't know history of what doses were used? what timing?, if any

supplements were given?, was yeast treated during chelation?...so many

things that can make chelation go better and work.

Your welcome to post a more throughough run down of what has been done

already and what reactions, symptoms, improvements there were, and

whether or not he had a Hair elements test.

meantime, while you read:

Antifungals tp address gut yeast

probiotics-keep gut in balance, support immune function

Good multi's like Kirkman or Brainchild

dietary changes, finding and avoiding allergens.

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> My son is almost 17 and his DAN doctor had him on TD-DMPS for a couple

> of years. He then had an allergic reaction, and also had spots that

> resembled bruises that he still has, even though we stopped a few

> months back. I am now terrified of chelation, and just want to give

> the best supplements to support his health until a safer way of

> chelation comes along. He never really showed much mercury coming out

> on his tests. The last one showed high lead levels. Any advice would

> be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

>

> Ann

>

[Guest guest]

What dose and dosing schedule were you using? I presume your son has NO mercury

amalgam dental fillings?! Andy's protocol is safer than what most of the DAN!

docs use.

S S

Advice needed re: chelation

Posted by: " annboling55 " annboling55@... annboling55

Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:19 pm (PDT)

My son is almost 17 and his DAN doctor had him on TD-DMPS for a couple

of years. He then had an allergic reaction, and also had spots that

resembled bruises that he still has, even though we stopped a few

months back. I am now terrified of chelation, and just want to give

the best supplements to support his health until a safer way of

chelation comes along. He never really showed much mercury coming out

on his tests. The last one showed high lead levels. Any advice would

be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Ann

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[Guest guest]

My son is almost 17 and his DAN doctor had him on TD-DMPS for a couple

of years. He then had an allergic reaction, and also had spots that

resembled bruises that he still has, even though we stopped a few

months back. I am now terrified of chelation, and just want to give

the best supplements to support his health until a safer way of

chelation comes along. He never really showed much mercury coming out

on his tests. The last one showed high lead levels. Any advice would

be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Ann

More info:

My son is on Nystatin, and we rotate GSE, Pau'd arco, etc. and give

Theralac Probiotics. The bruise like marks just appeared at the site

of the td-dmps application, and they've been there for months. We did

a 3 day on 11 day off schedule. He gets Vitamin C, Zinc, b-12 shots,

and Basic Nutrients from New Beginnings,DMG, Biotin, and CLO. Thanks!

[Guest guest]

I have read in different places that nystatin depletes COQ10 and that

can cause some interesting issues. You might google COQ10 defiencey

and see what happens. I took nystatin for over a year and had some

issues myself...til I found out what was going on.

hth

Ronni

>

> My son is almost 17 and his DAN doctor had him on TD-DMPS for a

couple

> of years. He then had an allergic reaction, and also had spots that

> resembled bruises that he still has, even though we stopped a few

> months back. I am now terrified of chelation, and just want to give

> the best supplements to support his health until a safer way of

> chelation comes along. He never really showed much mercury coming

out

> on his tests. The last one showed high lead levels. Any advice would

> be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

>

> Ann

> More info:

>

> My son is on Nystatin, and we rotate GSE, Pau'd arco, etc. and give

> Theralac Probiotics. The bruise like marks just appeared at the

site

> of the td-dmps application, and they've been there for months. We

did

> a 3 day on 11 day off schedule. He gets Vitamin C, Zinc, b-12 shots,

> and Basic Nutrients from New Beginnings,DMG, Biotin, and CLO.

Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann.

Don't be scared about chelation. As has been reported on this list, these DMPS

patches can lead to skin reactions. That, along with the fact that it's hard to

accurately measure the dose, is the reason that the trans-dermal approach has

only been suggested here in the case of a child who can not swallow, since DMPS

is perfectly well absorbed when taken orally.

Now that you are here, the first thing I would suggest is to find out if your

son indeed needs to be chelated. How was that determined? What would help us

make sense of this, is if you told us (1) something about his symptoms and (2)

showed us a Doctor's Data hair test, if it is available. If the test is not

available, then you can get one through DirectLabs.Com. Mention this list, and

you should get a discount. Make sure to notice that you want the " Hair

Elements " test (maybe they call it " Essential Hair Elements " ), _not_ the " Toxic

Hair Elements " test.

If it does turn out that chelation is what might make sense for your son, the

approach here is very very conservative, the most conservative you will find

anywhere - and you can spend time discussing it with other people, like myself,

who have been there.

Dave.

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Posted by: " annboling55 " annboling55@... annboling55

Date: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:18 am ((PDT))

My son is almost 17 and his DAN doctor had him on TD-DMPS for a couple

of years. He then had an allergic reaction, and also had spots that

resembled bruises that he still has, even though we stopped a few

months back. I am now terrified of chelation, and just want to give

the best supplements to support his health until a safer way of

chelation comes along. He never really showed much mercury coming out

on his tests. The last one showed high lead levels. Any advice would

be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Ann

More info:

My son is on Nystatin, and we rotate GSE, Pau'd arco, etc. and give

Theralac Probiotics. The bruise like marks just appeared at the site

of the td-dmps application, and they've been there for months. We did

a 3 day on 11 day off schedule. He gets Vitamin C, Zinc, b-12 shots,

and Basic Nutrients from New Beginnings,DMG, Biotin, and CLO. Thanks!

[Guest guest]

> My son is almost 17 and his DAN doctor had him on TD-DMPS for a couple

> of years. He then had an allergic reaction, and also had spots that

> resembled bruises that he still has, even though we stopped a few

> months back. I am now terrified of chelation, and just want to give

> the best supplements to support his health until a safer way of

> chelation comes along.

It's already here. It is what everyone on this list does - take chelators

properly by

textbook criteria.

> He never really showed much mercury coming out

> on his tests. The last one showed high lead levels. Any advice would

> be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

DMPS is useless for lead anyway, if you think he has lead use DMSA.

> Ann

> More info:

>

> My son is on Nystatin, and we rotate GSE, Pau'd arco, etc. and give

> Theralac Probiotics. The bruise like marks just appeared at the site

> of the td-dmps application, and they've been there for months. We did

> a 3 day on 11 day off schedule. He gets Vitamin C, Zinc, b-12 shots,

> and Basic Nutrients from New Beginnings,DMG, Biotin, and CLO. Thanks!

>