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I don't know enough about it to answer that question. To start with, what do

the letters mean?

Sam

rasheedaas <rasheedaas@...> wrote: Sam,

In what context?

ellen

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> Anybody know what NCD is?

> Sam

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Sam, Are you asking about Natural Cellular Defence by Waiora.? If so its for

detox and more. If this is what you mean I think you can google it, or go to

Betterhealthguy.com lots of info about alot of products. Take care Joyce

rasheedaas <rasheedaas@...> wrote: Sam,

In what context?

ellen

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> Anybody know what NCD is?

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Funny. When I see it in context I'll let you know. Joyce wrote that NCD is

Natural Cellular Defence by Waiora and that might be it. Thanks so much. I

didn't know there were wo man NCD's abbreviations out there.

Sam

DeMarco <ponyrubs@...> wrote: The

National Council on Disability?

http://www.ncd.gov/

D.

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Anybody know what NCD is?

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Sam,

Here's a great article on Natural Cellular Defense. Others mentioned on

another lyme group that it's safe to take to remove mercury from your body while

you still have fillings in, so that's why I started taking it. But it's great

for a dang lot of things, it turns out!

http://www.newstarget.com/019825.html

Parents are giving it to their autistic children, so it's plenty safe. There's

an AutismNCD group out there too.

in AK

Zawada <skzawada@...> wrote:

Funny. When I see it in context I'll let you know. Joyce wrote that

NCD is Natural Cellular Defence by Waiora and that might be it. Thanks so much.

I didn't know there were wo man NCD's abbreviations out there.

Sam

DeMarco <ponyrubs@...> wrote: The National Council on Disability?

http://www.ncd.gov/

D.

wannabehealthyagain <skzawada@...> wrote: Anybody know what NCD is?

Sam

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---Natural Cellular Defense by Waiora for Immune and detox.

You can google this or betterhealth.com has info there.

Supposed to be good. My Dr is testing people before and after using

it to see if it helps with heavy metals etc. Take care Joyce

In , Zawada <skzawada@...> wrote:

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> I don't know enough about it to answer that question. To start

with, what do the letters mean?

> Sam

>

> rasheedaas <rasheedaas@...> wrote: Sam,

> In what context?

>

> ellen

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> > Anybody know what NCD is?

> > Sam

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and Others,

You might be able to help me out. Whenever I have tried a metal detox I have

gotten muscle spasms so bad that they have actually turned my ankle and leg

sideways. I've had muscle spasms (charlie horses) for up to two weeks at a time

without it going away. I've literally seen muscle spasms going up and down in

my leg. I have had muscle spasms for years in my legs where I would have to

jump up in a seconds notice and didn't know if I would make it because of the

pain. Any suggestions on how to approach this?

Sam

<igloo_iguana@...> wrote:

Sam,

Here's a great article on Natural Cellular Defense. Others mentioned on

another lyme group that it's safe to take to remove mercury from your body while

you still have fillings in, so that's why I started taking it. But it's great

for a dang lot of things, it turns out!

http://www.newstarget.com/019825.html

Parents are giving it to their autistic children, so it's plenty safe.

There's an AutismNCD group out there too.

in AK

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Sam, Sounds like u are depleteing your minerals especially magnesium. I have

also had this happen to me in the past. Some of these detoxes take the good with

the bad. Take care Joyce

Zawada <skzawada@...> wrote:

and Others,

You might be able to help me out. Whenever I have tried a metal detox I have

gotten muscle spasms so bad that they have actually turned my ankle and leg

sideways. I've had muscle spasms (charlie horses) for up to two weeks at a time

without it going away. I've literally seen muscle spasms going up and down in

my leg. I have had muscle spasms for years in my legs where I would have to

jump up in a seconds notice and didn't know if I would make it because of the

pain. Any suggestions on how to approach this?

Sam

<igloo_iguana@...> wrote:

Sam,

Here's a great article on Natural Cellular Defense. Others mentioned on

another lyme group that it's safe to take to remove mercury from your body while

you still have fillings in, so that's why I started taking it. But it's great

for a dang lot of things, it turns out!

http://www.newstarget.com/019825.html

Parents are giving it to their autistic children, so it's plenty safe.

There's an AutismNCD group out there too.

in AK

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> Edit: I've just looked at a few of the testimpnials on their site and

> imo it seems like they have included some which sound a bit too good

> to be true and also their site doesn't seem to go into too much

> detail about how effective it is at removing heavy metals, so maybe

> this isn't the best product to use.

With chelators, everyone seems to react differently, so what may

be the best product for one person may be the worst for another.

NCD does indeed appear to work for some people, and if you are

one of those people, then that's all that will matter to you!

Marc

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> > Edit: I've just looked at a few of the testimpnials on their site

and

> > imo it seems like they have included some which sound a bit too

good

> > to be true and also their site doesn't seem to go into too much

> > detail about how effective it is at removing heavy metals, so maybe

> > this isn't the best product to use.

>

> With chelators, everyone seems to react differently, so what may

> be the best product for one person may be the worst for another.

> NCD does indeed appear to work for some people, and if you are

> one of those people, then that's all that will matter to you!

>

> Marc

>

Were you replying to me, if so I was talking about the zeolite, I'm not

sure what NCD is. BTW, do you know of any big surveys done of which

metal detox products have the highest success rate for electrosensitive

people ? I know it seems like different people find different products

work best, but I think it would be useful to know in general, which

people have found worked well.

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> Were you replying to me, if so I was talking about the zeolite, I'm not

> sure what NCD is.

NCD is short for " natural cellular defense " , which appears to be the

most popular liquid zeolite product currently on the market.

> BTW, do you know of any big surveys done of which

> metal detox products have the highest success rate for electrosensitive

> people?

I don't think there has been such a survey. It's hard enough finding

people who are successful, let alone doing a big survey... on this

list, we've had a several people reduce their sensitivities via heavy

metal detoxification, but it seems that everyone has done it their

own way (detox foot pads, detox food baths, chlorella/cilantro,

DMSA/ALA, etc.).

Marc

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I gave my then just 2yo 1 d of zeos in his supps per day for 1 wk back

in July. At the time he was delayed & had some spectrum symptoms. With

the zeolites he became full blown autistic. I still haven't recovered

him.

Michele

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We used it to no avail. Over priced and the salesman disappeared into the ether!

From: ccomunal@... <ccomunal@...>

Subject: ncd

Vaccinations

Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 11:26 AM

our DAN doctor does not suggest NCD (natural cellular defense)

saying that no one knows what is in it and therefore, it really has not been

tested. He also mentioned that it is made from lava and why do ppl die around

volcanos? he believes from the toxins in the lava...does anyone have any

thoughts on this??

thanks

christie>

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PS: I would be happy to use zeolite, volcanic or not. However I would buy it dry

next time and hydrate it myself. The volcanic nature doesn't bother me. I use

sulphur and have bathed in water from the Ruapehu crater lake via the Whangaehu

River. A relative pumped it to his bathroom. The door was always shut due to the

sulphurous smell even though we were many kilometres from the volcano.

I have used bentonite.

As for toxins in lava, not necessarily. Sometimes things won't thrive because of

a lack in volcanic soils - eg the Volcanic Plateau in NZ was inhospitable for

stock until it was discovered that the soil was lacking in the trace element

cobalt.

Maracuja

From: ccomunaloptonline (DOT) net <ccomunaloptonline (DOT) net>

Subject: ncd

Vaccinations

Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 11:26 AM

our DAN doctor does not suggest NCD (natural cellular defense) saying that no

one knows what is in it and therefore, it really has not been tested. He also

mentioned that it is made from lava and why do ppl die around volcanos? he

believes from the toxins in the lava...does anyone have any thoughts on this??

thanks

christie>

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