Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 My son's DMSA challenge test showed zero metals. Yet months later, when symptoms still didn't make sense and I did a hair test, he is high in aluminum, arsenic and meets a counting rule for mercury. We have only done 2 rounds of chelation so far and have already noticed some improvement. My advise: get a hairtest from Doctor's Data. Apparently when you order through Direct Labs .com and mention this group you get a discount. maybe someone who knows for sure can confirm? From: Shanon <theshannster2@...> Subject: [ ] new, and confused Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 8:53 AM I just recently joined this group, am reading Andy's book and looking at the protocol for my ASD non-verbal 5 year old son. Prior to reading any of Andy's research, my doctor ran the DMSA challenge test, to " rule " out metals.I have learned since then that these tests can be inaccurate, but I am finding it necessary to look for guidance in the pursuit of metals. Only 1/2 of the DMSA suppository actually stayed in place when we did the challlenge and the urine collection for 6 hours after was difficult. We only collected about a vials worth and missed several large urine dumps (my son is not potty trained). I imagine this test is not as conclusive as it could have been for that reason, but need to ask. After the provoking agent, mercury went from 0 to 0.5. Lead from 0 to 3.3 (this was my sons largest metal measure). Antimony went from 0.7 to 0.4 (went down ??), arsenic from 21 to 27, thallium 0.3 to 0.6, nickel 1.3 to 2.5, tin 0.6 to 1.1, cadmium from 0 to 0.3 and Tungsten from 0.1 to 0.09.Aluminum went from 0 to 8.1. So everything was " in reference range " . Has anyone had similar results, yet done a chelation protocol and seen results ? Can anyone tell me another sandard for testing, or if this even looks like metals are an issue ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 We get the discount too. They really give it if you tell them your a member of this group. I think our last hair test was $75 with that discount. > From: Shanon <theshannster2> > Subject: [ ] new, and confused > > Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 8:53 AM > > I just recently joined this group, am reading Andy's book and looking > > at the protocol for my ASD non-verbal 5 year old son. > > Prior to reading any of Andy's research, my doctor ran the DMSA > > challenge test, to " rule " out metals.I have learned since then that > > these tests can be inaccurate, but I am finding it necessary to look > > for guidance in the pursuit of metals. Only 1/2 of the DMSA suppository > > actually stayed in place when we did the challlenge and the urine > > collection for 6 hours after was difficult. We only collected about a > > vials worth and missed several large urine dumps (my son is not potty > > trained). I imagine this test is not as conclusive as it could have > > been for that reason, but need to ask. After the provoking agent, > > mercury went from 0 to 0.5. Lead from 0 to 3.3 (this was my sons > > largest metal measure). Antimony went from 0.7 to 0.4 (went down ??), > > arsenic from 21 to 27, thallium 0.3 to 0.6, nickel 1.3 to 2.5, tin 0.6 > > to 1.1, cadmium from 0 to 0.3 and Tungsten from 0.1 to 0.09.Aluminum > > went from 0 to 8.1. > > So everything was " in reference range " . > > Has anyone had similar results, yet done a chelation protocol and seen > > results ? Can anyone tell me another sandard for testing, or if this > > even looks like metals are an issue ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 > > I just recently joined this group, am reading Andy's book and looking > at the protocol for my ASD non-verbal 5 year old son. > Prior to reading any of Andy's research, my doctor ran the DMSA > challenge test, to " rule " out metals.I have learned since then that > these tests can be inaccurate, but I am finding it necessary to look > for guidance in the pursuit of metals. Only 1/2 of the DMSA suppository > actually stayed in place when we did the challlenge and the urine > collection for 6 hours after was difficult. We only collected about a > vials worth and missed several large urine dumps (my son is not potty > trained). I imagine this test is not as conclusive as it could have > been for that reason, challenge tests are never conclusive and seldom contain any information at all. >but need to ask. After the provoking agent, > mercury went from 0 to 0.5. Lead from 0 to 3.3 (this was my sons > largest metal measure). Antimony went from 0.7 to 0.4 (went down ??), > arsenic from 21 to 27, thallium 0.3 to 0.6, nickel 1.3 to 2.5, tin 0.6 > to 1.1, cadmium from 0 to 0.3 and Tungsten from 0.1 to 0.09.Aluminum > went from 0 to 8.1. > So everything was " in reference range " . Which means nothing. > Has anyone had similar results, yet done a chelation protocol and seen > results ? I have seen this many times, both with children and adults. >Can anyone tell me another sandard for testing, or if this > even looks like metals are an issue ? The test has no meaning at all. It is uninterpretable. If you had collected all the urine, it still would have no meaning at all and be uninterpretable. You may find my hair test book informative. THe MOST informative thing will be trying to chelate your kid a few times and see what happens. And please, do it by mouth. You can figure out how to mid the chelators with something he likes so he'll eat them. Andy www.noamalgam.com www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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