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> Personal attacks should not be permitted on this list.

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It's a relatively unmoderated list.

Typical trolling behavior is to attack someone in a moderately high class way

and then

complain they're attackiing you when they respond appropriately.

If you're going to ban personal attacks, why not sophistry and trolling? Those

are far more

destructive.

Acutally those who have been on the list a while know that a lot of productive

discussions

have really been very heated and somewhat personal. Some people need a bit of

emotion

to lubricate their intellectual machinery. Not always very pleasant at the time

but really

nothing wrong with it.

Realistically speaking, we're talking to parents about their poor unfortunate

children who

got abused and poisoned with their consent by people in positions of trust and

authority,

and who are then viewed as very lucrative customers by a lot of vendors with

mutually

contradictory claims and information that the parents have to sort out to have

some hope

of giving their child a future back. Of course there is going to be a lot of

emotion -

including a lot of anger - involved in this discussion. And we're not all

perfect people so

some may on occasion exhibit these unpleasant emotions in a way that others

don't like.

Personally I think we should all be tolerant.

By not being moderated we've avoided falling into some unnanounced editorial

bias as for

example the ABMD list has done, and this has in fact been extremely helpful for

the people

coming here to get real information.

Andy

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