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This is great news! If they got away with it for kids, could adults be far

behind? And my daughter is an adult! And I haven't been to a doctor for 38

years, so I sure wouldn't want any shots either.

Thank you both so much for posting it!

Francine

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Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:45 pm (PDT)

It's official, New York Assembly Bill A 10942, the " worst vaccine bill ever "

and the mandatory meningococcal vaccine bill it morphed into late in the

session are dead. And they were killed by parents who just aren't going to let

pharma kick them around anymore.

Another vaccine bill that would have allowed minors to get vaccines for

sexually-transmitteAnother vaccine bill that would have allowed minors to get

vaccines for sexually-transmitte<WBR>d diseases without parents permission or

knowledge wen

This represents the fourth defeat in a row, with no wins, for the vaccine

industry in New York, last year an mandatory HPV bill was killed.

As usual with most vaccine bills in New York, they were submitted late in

the session which limits the time that the opposition has to make arguments

against a proposal. The original A 10942 was submitted at the request of the

Health Department and would have caused a sweeping restructuring of NY vaccine

policy; all CDC recommended vaccines would have become mandatory for all

children, including those too young to enter school, and all new CDC recommended

vaccines would automatically become mandatory.

A 10942 was greeted by a rally of hundreds of parents from all around the

state, many were parent of vaccine-injured children, others though have healthy

children and would like to see them stay healthy. A broad cross section of

organizations were involved, autism organization, holistic health groups,

libertarians, and many others came together for the first time in joint

political

action. Legisltive aides report a flood of phone calls, faxes, letters and

emails in opposition.

The legislature responded with scaling the bill back to require the

menigoccocal shot for seventh graders. This new version was introduced last

Friday

and on Monday there were new demonstrations by parents both in Albany and in

front of the Long Island office of State Senator Kemp Hannon who introduced the

meningitis legislation. The bill died today with the adjournment of the

legislature.

Organizers of the successful campaign will be holding meetings and

conferences to make sure that in the next session of the legislature that the

philosophical exemption bills sponsored by State Senator Padavan and

Assemblymember Mark Alessi are passed. And in a new twist on vaccines rights,

New

Yorkers will be working to introduce legislation that will drop vaccines from

the

mandatory list. The first target will be hepatitis b, a shot given to

newborns ostensibly to prevent a sexually transmitted disease.

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NY: All New Vaccine Mandates Squashed

More Info

Parents are Powerful

It's official, New York Assembly Bill A 10942, the " worst vaccine bill

ever " and the mandatory meningococcal vaccine bill it morphed into

late in the session are dead. And they were killed by parents who just

aren't going to let pharma kick them around anymore.

Another vaccine bill that would have allowed minors to get vaccines

for sexually-transmittefor sexually-transmitte<WBR>d diseases witho

knowledge went down to an ignominious defeat when the Assembly Health

committee refused to even consider it.

This represents the fourth defeat in a row, with no wins, for the

vaccine industry in New York, last year an mandatory HPV bill was killed.

As usual with most vaccine bills in New York, they were submitted late

in the session which limits the time that the opposition has to make

arguments against a proposal. The original A 10942 was submitted at

the request of the Health Department and would have caused a sweeping

restructuring of NY vaccine policy; all CDC recommended vaccines would

have become mandatory for all children, including those too young to

enter school, and all new CDC recommended vaccines would automatically

become mandatory.

A 10942 was greeted by a rally of hundreds of parents from all around

the state, many were parent of vaccine-injured children, others though

have healthy children and would like to see them stay healthy. A broad

cross section of organizations were involved, autism organization,

holistic health groups, libertarians, and many others came together

for the first time in joint political action. Legisltive aides report

a flood of phone calls, faxes, letters and emails in opposition.

The legislature responded with scaling the bill back to require the

menigoccocal shot for seventh graders. This new version was introduced

last Friday and on Monday there were new demonstrations by parents

both in Albany and in front of the Long Island office of State Senator

Kemp Hannon who introduced the meningitis legislation. The bill died

today with the adjournment of the legislature.

Organizers of the successful campaign will be holding meetings and

conferences to make sure that in the next session of the legislature

that the philosophical exemption bills sponsored by State Senator

Padavan and Assemblymember Mark Alessi are passed. And in a new

twist on vaccines rights, New Yorkers will be working to introduce

legislation that will drop vaccines from the mandatory list. The first

target will be hepatitis b, a shot given to newborns ostensibly to

prevent a sexually transmitted disease.

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Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:40 pm (PDT)

He's trying to dismiss any liability on his part. And quoted what the

vaccine company says.

Most physicians will not admit nor do they know that the vaccines

exceed EPA standards for mercury exposure. Vaccines of that time did

have mercury in them (they still do) 25mcg per vaccine for the ones

that contained it, which I think was everything but polio and MMR. If

you have the lot numbers, this will give you better information on

exactly which vaccines he had. You can run those brand through the

mercury calculator to see how much he had at each visit.

The package insert says they are still made with mercury and mercury

is removed from the final product. Which you and I know is pure

BS...and not likely that they are actually removing it all if any. But

this is what they are telling people: that essentially it has mercury,

but we " remove " it from the final product.

So he's quoting what he's been told and what the papers from the

vaccine company say.

You and I know that mercury is not that easy to remove, so it's not

likely they are removing it all...so they say " traces remain " and no

one knows how much that is. The regulations says that as long as it's

under a certain amount we can call it traces and say that it's

" mercury free " which is deceiving. It should be called " mercury

reduced vaccines " / They are giving a false sense of safety.

But this is what they are telling people about the newer " mercury

free " vaccines. In the files section, I posted an article on mercury

free vaccines that were independently tested by a parent group through

DDI labs and found to contain mercury and sometimes more mercury than

the original versions. So none of these shots are mercury free. That

is why one of my quotes is " We are Being Lied Too " . Because this is

all a ploy to fool us into poisoning our kids.

And no way that 237.5 mcg is trace..not in an infant, not in an adult.

My son was born in 2002 and supposedly vaccines were " mercury free "

then, but with my research, they were not. No one ever recalled all

the other vaccines and some of them were not due to expire until like

2007. So our kids had them for sure. My dd was born in 1995 and got

the full load of mercury. She's not autistic but has social and

emotional problems, and is autoimmune. If she were a boy....it'd be a

disaster.

Sadly, I don't trust pediatricians.Sadly, I don't trust ped

pushers for vaccines. Our ped, I went to with my sister when she as

pregnant and interviewing doctors...and she told him she was not going

to vaccinate the baby at all. So he got into all the reasons she

should and told her that the only shot that contains mercury is the

flu shot and she could skip that one. (so he knows that the flu shot

has it and he gives it to babies anyway!) Most everything he told us

was based on false information. My sister and I had a heck of time not

busting up laughing at how ignorant this doctor really was about

vaccines. He was really brainwashed into thinking these things were

good for babies. Which I find ironic,...because they always send the

nurse in to give the shots, why don't they do it themselves?? Maybe

guilt? But anyway, He did admit that most of those diseases were not

a risk once the baby reached one year of age. And that rubella was

only dangerous to pregnant women so we vaccinate kids so they don't

spread it to pregnant women. He seemed to mimize the shots when he

realized that he was dealing with two very knowledgable ladies. Who

were not easily fooled by statistics. I corrected him numerous times

on his " mis " information.on his " mis "

Needless to say, my niece is a year old now. Perfectly healthy and at

the developmental level of a 15month. This doctor is flabbergasted

with her development and how advanced she is...or as I say..how behind

the rest of our kids are.

Most docs will not " agree " with you that 237.mcg is too much or that

they had any hand in the poisoning of your son. This is why he's

telling you that. Because it's all he knows, it's what he was told.

>

> This is a quote from a letter I received from my son's former

> pediatrician who I entrusted my his health to from 1999-2004.

>

> This is his response to my letter which questioned how could it be

> possible that 237.5mcg could be considered " trace amounts " (which in

> all probability the amount injected into my infant) which he told me

> when I questioned mercury in vaccines back in 2000.

>

> " In closing, I wish to clarify two statements which you attribute to

> me. The " trace levels " of mercury referred to vaccines which have

> replaced those which formerly were preserved with thimerosal - I

> explained that even some of these replacement vaccines contain

> thimerosal at some point during their manufacture and the mercury-

> containing material is then moved, leaving trace amounts of mercury. "

>

> Huh? They put mercury in swish it around and then try to remove it? I

> I do believe my son received the full amounts of mercury due to his age

> and subsequent diagnosis 3 years ago. He's recoverying slowly but

> steadily through chelation therapy.

>

> But does this make sense to anyone?

>

> Kathy

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