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>From: " Sandy Mintz " <sandym@...>

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>Subject: DAN

>Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:33:10 -0900

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>Could any of you who have information on the DAN protocol bring me up to

>speed on anything you know about it, including websites, please? I just

>received an email from someone who needs it. Thanks. Sandy

>

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and this link:

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has lots of info.

>From: " Sandy Mintz " <sandym@...>

>Reply-Vaccinationsegroups

><vaccineinjuriesegroups>, <Vaccinationsegroups>

>Subject: DAN

>Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:33:10 -0900

>

>Could any of you who have information on the DAN protocol bring me up to

>speed on anything you know about it, including websites, please? I just

>received an email from someone who needs it. Thanks. Sandy

>

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Dan

I really like your optimism. For me, I know it's important to try to stay positive and live as normal a life as possible. I'm not 26, but when I was dx with pbc a few weeks after my 40th birthday I was thinking "I'm too young to have a chronic disease." I've since realized that how I approach this is going to determine what quality of life that I have. I'm not saying we have total control over our health, but we do have some. There are plenty of days that I really have to push myself-like we all do- but I know that if I allow myself to wallow in this I will not be doing anyone any good. Your positive outlook is much appreciated!-Dianne

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I am so new here and am trying to still see photos. Now someone told me to go

to thd " group " page. Ok, how?

mrskmt1 <dawntrahan@...> wrote: Our thoughts and prayers are with you

and your family. But I just

wanted to ask, how good did you feel in Hawaii? I remember those times

that thinking about putting on a swimsuit and being in public **gasp**

caused a near panic attack for me! I hope you lay on the beach and

thought about how far you have come and how much better you look and

feel after the weight loss. If you can put it into words, please share

that feeling with your fellow bandsters. Do it for the newly banded.

Do it for those who need some inspiration. Do it for those of us who

have lost a lot but can't make it to Hawaii!

Dawn

-116

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This is the Home Page link - bookmark it for future use.

/

Those of us getting the daily digest need to go to that link to access

the photo section in the left column. Others of us just sign on when we

want to read the posts, so are already THERE. sandy r

>

> I am so new here and am trying to still see photos. Now someone told

me to go to thd " group " page. Ok, how?

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Kathy, and all,

If you have a family member that you think might be autistic, please read

The Impossible Cure by Amy Lansky. She used homeopathy to CURE her son of

autism.

I know that the medical people will insist there is no cure for autism (I

fight this attitude all the time in WI because the hospital here is very

effective about spreading this particular dogma).

But I've worked with a number of autistic kids and adults and have had very

nice results.

My issue with the diet and vitamin approach to autism--or any other health

challenge--is that it works while you restrict the diet and/or take the

boatloads of vitamins.

But what happens if you try to live somewhat in the world, don't restrict

the diet, can't afford all the supplements? You regress.

Wouldn't it be better if the approach took care of the condition

permanently? As in <cure> it. Which I have to say very quietly, because

legally, only

conventional medicine can cure anything. And legally, homeopathy cannot

claim to cure anything.

Both of those statements are outright lies.

Conventional medicine really does not cure anything. It only suppresses the

symptoms.

And homeopathy does take care of symptoms permanently. (known as curative

in other, more enlightened legal climates).

end of rant ;-)

Look into that book. It may open your eyes.

And best wishes on your quests to heal your children. The people who get

well are the people who keep looking for solutions.

Warmly,

beth

In a message dated 4/11/2006 11:12:08 A.M. Central Standard Time,

kdeboer@... writes:

We don¹t know the answers to some of this yet. It may be that some kids

need a Specific Carb Diet to heal the gut first and then try raw milk. SCD

starts with fermented dairy. The author of that book just passed away. She

understood exactly what I was talking about, but had never heard of people

using raw milk. My daughter did just fine going to raw milk.

Dr. Hruby is willing to work with moms who want to try this and I suggest

you see him first. He is also getting some nice results with B 12

injections. I always bring back all the DAN notes for Dr. Hruby. It may be

that some children should not use raw milk. One speaker from England

suggested raw goat milk. I have heard that goat milk lacks folic acid and

that should be supplemented.

If you do try it, please remember to fill out the DAN parent form. By

collecting all the data, we may be able to help other families.

Kathy

on 4/11/06 10:30 AM, Gray at annargray2001@... wrote:

> Thanks for your reply. I look forward to hearing the advances from

> the DAN conference and talking to Kathy Deboer.

>

> I would love to hear about people who are using raw milk and raw

> butter with autism and what they are seeing. I have been considering

> this for awhile. I have been told using kiniesiology that she can

> not tolerate it now but it is a very good food and she might be able

> to use it as she heals and it would accelerate her healing.

beth Buchele RSHom(NA) CCH*

Professional Homeopath

Offices in St. Louis Park, MN

952-933-6068

and Menomonie, WI

715-231-6068

_www.healthnaturally.biz_ (http://www.healthnaturally.biz/)

*Registered with The Society of Homeopaths, North America

Certified in Classical Homeopathy

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I have read the book and it is very good. Dr. Hruby is also a homeopath.

He is my personal physician and I have my uterus because of homeopathy. I

breezed through menopause and I think that was because of homeopathy and I

had also switched to grass fed beef.

The Homeopathy Center of Houston had a paper at DAN. Titters decrease in in

a six year old male following administration of homeopathic remedies. It

didn¹t say what was used, perhaps you could contact them.

I think DAN is pretty open to any approach that helps. The key is getting

parents to write in about what helped their child. Then they publish how

many parents used that approach and the results.

Kathy

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I have read the book and it is very good. Dr. Hruby is also a homeopath.

He is my personal physician and I have my uterus because of homeopathy. I

breezed through menopause and I think that was because of homeopathy and I

had also switched to grass fed beef.

The Homeopathy Center of Houston had a paper at DAN. Titters decrease in in

a six year old male following administration of homeopathic remedies. It

didn¹t say what was used, perhaps you could contact them.

I think DAN is pretty open to any approach that helps. The key is getting

parents to write in about what helped their child. Then they publish how

many parents used that approach and the results.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

I have read Impossible Cure too and that is why we did classical

homeopathy for 2 years. Symptoms improved and then returned..on a

roller coaster..overall she was better. I am still confused about

homeotoxicology vs homeopathy. I would like to use homeopathy to

support the homeotoxicology but am worried about overtaxing the

vital force. There may be more intelligence in classical homeopathy.

We have been doing homeotoxicology for about 4 monthes..

There is also truth in TCM(Traditional Chinese Medicine) and

Ayurveda.

>

> I have read the book and it is very good. Dr. Hruby is also a

homeopath.

> He is my personal physician and I have my uterus because of

homeopathy. I

> breezed through menopause and I think that was because of

homeopathy and I

> had also switched to grass fed beef.

>

>

> The Homeopathy Center of Houston had a paper at DAN. Titters

decrease in in

> a six year old male following administration of homeopathic

remedies. It

> didn¹t say what was used, perhaps you could contact them.

>

> I think DAN is pretty open to any approach that helps. The key is

getting

> parents to write in about what helped their child. Then they

publish how

> many parents used that approach and the results.

>

> Kathy

>

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I have read Impossible Cure too and that is why we did classical

homeopathy for 2 years. Symptoms improved and then returned..on a

roller coaster..overall she was better. I am still confused about

homeotoxicology vs homeopathy. I would like to use homeopathy to

support the homeotoxicology but am worried about overtaxing the

vital force. There may be more intelligence in classical homeopathy.

We have been doing homeotoxicology for about 4 monthes..

There is also truth in TCM(Traditional Chinese Medicine) and

Ayurveda.

>

> I have read the book and it is very good. Dr. Hruby is also a

homeopath.

> He is my personal physician and I have my uterus because of

homeopathy. I

> breezed through menopause and I think that was because of

homeopathy and I

> had also switched to grass fed beef.

>

>

> The Homeopathy Center of Houston had a paper at DAN. Titters

decrease in in

> a six year old male following administration of homeopathic

remedies. It

> didn¹t say what was used, perhaps you could contact them.

>

> I think DAN is pretty open to any approach that helps. The key is

getting

> parents to write in about what helped their child. Then they

publish how

> many parents used that approach and the results.

>

> Kathy

>

>

>

>

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>

>

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OK that is just wrong about the weight watchers, are they there to support

people or there for money or pride. What is it with people. We should all want

what is best for the person. Alyce

Dan

Dan,

He is her step dad and always trys to make her like him more.....Even through

food......

I think the weekly accountability for her would be great. Getting weighed in

once a month doesnt really do too much for her.

I have bandsters in our program that have joined weight watchers, definatly dont

tell them, one was told she couldnt come back once they found out she had the

band.....

Patty

LapBand

02/28/05

280/152/150 (someday 140-145)

------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- -

From: honuriverofdata (DOT) com

>

> > It is tough. I know everyone looks at me and thinks, why does she let her

eat

> so much. My husband used to take her out to dinner quite often when I worked.

> She would eat all of the bread and butter before the meal came, I told him,

have

> the waitress take it away. So he did, and he said the look on my daughters

face

> was so sad, he would never do that again. So they dont go out to eat anymore.

> ....

>

> Gee, your husband is definitely wrapped around her finger. Not that that's

> unusual for fathers and daughters, but....

>

> > Fortunately the program she is in is $30 a month.....But its only once a

> month, so I may be bringing her to Weight Watchers, just so she gets weighed

in

> more than once a month.

>

> I'm a firm believer in WW, EVEN FOR BANDSTERS. Why?

>

> First, it is a regular checkup. Second, it gives great support, and you'll not

> hear a thing that contradicts the band. (Well, they may recommend some things

> you can't eat, but that's easy enough to modify in your mind)

>

> What I do recommend is that you do NOT tell you have a band. Some leaders of

> WW, and some members, will be unhappy you're there, criticize that you're

> banded, etc. I figure the " don't ask, don't tell " works just fine there. And,

> the band just helps you limit your consumption to the number of points you're

> allowed (or what you can eat on core if you're doing core).

>

> Gail and I go to WW every week, though are " up a bit " now since have changed

> from early Saturday morning to Wednesday evening, as we all weigh a bit more

in

> the evening than in the morning.

>

> No one knows I have a band, and no one knows that her stomach was stapled some

> 26 years ago (though is long ago streteched out and useless 99 percent of the

> time). No reason for them to know either one.

>

> cheers

>

> dan

>

>

>

>

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Re: Dan

>OK that is just wrong about the weight watchers, are they there to support

people

>or there for money or pride. What is it with people. We should all want

what is best

>for the person. Alyce

In one sense I can understand it. If a bandster just goes and listens and

shares and learns like everyone else, WW shouldn't care, and may well not. But

why even mention it? No reason to.

WW has a product/service to sell, just like a band or RNY doc does. Naturally,

each wants to sell his or her own product. Probably wouldn't be welcome at WW

either if you preached Craig or LA Weight Loss, either. And wouldn't be

welcome at a doc's support group if it was a band group and someone came in

telling you how stupid you all were to get a band when they got an RNY, blah,

blah, blah.... So, if a bandster was telling in the meetings how wonderful the

band was, etc, then I can imagine that you'd be unwelcome, and maybe told not to

return. But as noted, Gail and I haven't told WW about our previous surgeries,

since they're irrelevant to us eating right, exercising, etc. We all know that

it is possible to fail with a band, to eat badly, etc. I've done it myself. As

some of you know, I put on 20 pounds or so between March and September, but have

taken it back off. I was dealing with my little brother's cancer, death,

funeral, etc. Then I was dealing with my mother's final illness, death,

funeral, being executor of the estate, etc. Well, lots of " funeral food " and

" family food " and waaaayyyyy too many Starbucks Venti Hot Chocolate (with

whipped cream, of course) got to me. Gee, duuuuhhhhhh.....but I did my best to

NOT beat myself up about it, and to go back to doing the right things....and I

have.

So, it is NEVER TOO LATE to get back on the BANDwagon.....literally.

cheers

dan

I never complain, never ask why, please don't let my dreams run dry....

www.mylapband.tk

Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA

Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/27/03

355/323/212/190

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Hello pathubia,

Friday, October 19, 2007, 10:06:39 AM, you wrote:

> I defiantely weigh myself way too much, but I dont get crazy over

> it. I just like to keep on top of things. It seems to work for me.

Like always, if it works for you, keep working it. Many say the same

thing about my daily weighing, but since I have a little program that

records it and graphs it, I can see the " ups and downs " both for last

30, 60, or 90 days, or also for the last two years.

And as always, when something is NOT working for us we need to CHANGE

it and get out of the rut.

--

Best regards,

Dan mailto:honu@...

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008, 10:30:12 AM, you wrote:

> Dan,

> It is funny....My soon to be ex-husband was so convinced that I was

> having an affair (at 5 am), he would get up early and drive by the

> gym to make sure I was really there....Then he was convinced that I

> was meeting someone at the gym....I guess he just couldnt believe

> that I was really going to the gym at 5 am....

> Patty

Well, in former lives I had affairs, and did other bad things, but I

can guarantee you that I never did them at FIVE AM.

Now I get up at 500 every day (well sometimes a little later on

weekends, but never after 6 on Saturday or 7 on Sunday), but I'll

still say that isn't the time I'm interested in any hanky panky. But

to each his or her own. :-)

Of course if someone is paranoid....they're paranoid.

Don't mean this judgmental in your case, but many women find that when

they lose weight their insecure husbands are sure the women are

messing around (and of course a few may be). In many of those cases

the husband wants the wife to stay fat so that " no one else will want

her " . Then he's safe and secure.

Of course many other women who lose learn that they are good and

valuable and don't need to be stuck with the big old lump they've

spent years with.....my wife Gail is an example of that. (I'm the

post-lump one)

dan

--

" It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life " Jon Bon Jovi

Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk

Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana

Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years

Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana

[Guest guest]

Dan,

He loved me fat!! Hates me thin. Hates the idea that other men may actually

find me attractive...I am way more confident and I think that comes across in

the " whole new me " ....So we are one of the couples that didnt make it when one

has weight loss surgery.

Patty

[Guest guest]

Patty, true love takes you fat OR thin! Good riddance to him! Funny, I married

hubby he was thin, I was fat. He got fat. We both had surgery! I love him fat

or thin and the same goes for him. I was worried he wouldn't still love me

thin! Apparently what we have outside of the physical is what really counts.

@...: pathubia@...: Wed, 19 Mar

2008 19:12:50 +0000Subject: Re: Dan

Dan,He loved me fat!! Hates me thin. Hates the idea that other men may actually

find me attractive...I am way more confident and I think that comes across in

the " whole new me " ....So we are one of the couples that didnt make it when one

has weight loss surgery.Patty[Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

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Oh, Patty...I don't know whether to laugh or cry over that. You

just can't win for losing.

Gwen

>

> Dan,

> It is funny....My soon to be ex-husband was so convinced that I was

having an affair (at 5 am), he would get up early and drive by the gym

to make sure I was really there....Then he was convinced that I was

meeting someone at the gym....I guess he just couldnt believe that I

was really going to the gym at 5 am....

> Patty

>

>

[Guest guest]

Can anyone recommend a DAN DR in the OC area? Also, are their ANY DAN

DR that take insurance?

My other question is how do I test to see if my son has

Mercury...besides getting an IV push with urine test. The IV push

scares me......

Then, if he does have the Mercury...Is Chelation the ONLY way to get it

out.

A homeopathic DR said he thought has Mercury poisioning...but

wanted use to take a REAL test to find out. has NEVER had

vaccinations or shots, or medication....except through me(possibly)...I

had

Terrbutaline at 8 months pregnant, and vaccines when I went to Thailand

5 yrs ago.

I feel like I need help with this....

Annmarie...mom of (27 months old)

[Guest guest]

A porphyrins test will tell you if he has mercury poisoning.

From: Annmarie <annie_rung@...>

Subject: [ ] DAN

Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 3:51 PM

Can anyone recommend a DAN DR in the OC area? Also, are their ANY DAN

DR that take insurance?

My other question is how do I test to see if my son has

Mercury...besides getting an IV push with urine test. The IV push

scares me......

Then, if he does have the Mercury...Is Chelation the ONLY way to get it

out.

A homeopathic DR said he thought has Mercury poisioning.. .but

wanted use to take a REAL test to find out. has NEVER had

vaccinations or shots, or medication.. ..except through me(possibly) ...I

had

Terrbutaline at 8 months pregnant, and vaccines when I went to Thailand

5 yrs ago.

I feel like I need help with this....

Annmarie...mom of (27 months old)

[Guest guest]

I have never heard of this. Where can I get one?

 

 

From: Annmarie <annie_rung (DOT) com>

Subject: [ ] DAN

Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 3:51 PM

Can anyone recommend a DAN DR in the OC area? Also, are their ANY DAN

DR that take insurance?

My other question is how do I test to see if my son has

Mercury...besides getting an IV push with urine test. The IV push

scares me......

Then, if he does have the Mercury...Is Chelation the ONLY way to get it

out.

A homeopathic DR said he thought has Mercury poisioning.. .but

wanted use to take a REAL test to find out. has NEVER had

vaccinations or shots, or medication.. ..except through me(possibly) ...I

had

Terrbutaline at 8 months pregnant, and vaccines when I went to Thailand

5 yrs ago.

I feel like I need help with this....

Annmarie...mom of (27 months old)

[Guest guest]

My son is mercury toxic and has never been vaccinated.  I had a mouth full of

amalgams and a history of fibro, vertigo, arthritis, chronic infections, etc. 

We confirmed metals with the french prophyrin test (both of us were high for

mercury).  We are both chelating and he is dumping mercury and lead (I haven't

run urine tests on myself during chelation).

Caryn Reid

[Guest guest]

Can you give me the website on where to buy the test? Who would read the results

of the test?

 

has never had vacs either...or any shots(Hep .

Where do you guys live? We are in HB

 

Annmarie

 

From: Caryn Reid <caryn_reid@...>

Subject: [ ] Re:DAN

Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 8:02 AM

My son is mercury toxic and has never been vaccinated.  I had a mouth full of

amalgams and a history of fibro, vertigo, arthritis, chronic infections, etc. 

We confirmed metals with the french prophyrin test (both of us were high for

mercury).  We are both chelating and he is dumping mercury and lead (I haven't

run urine tests on myself during chelation).

Caryn Reid

[Guest guest]

>

> Can you give me the website on where to buy the test? Who would read

the results of the test?

>

AnnMarie,

This is where you'd order the test being spoken of

http://www.labbio.net/index.php?page=order

You can interpret it yourself to a large degree by looking in the files

section here at AM where you'll find some papers on how to do that.

Anita

[Guest guest]

I am going to order it now...is it the

 

Porphyrins (toxicity biological marker) test?

 

From: Anita <mysuperteach@...>

Subject: [ ] Re:DAN

Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 9:10 AM

>

> Can you give me the website on where to buy the test? Who would read

the results of the test?

>

AnnMarie,

This is where you'd order the test being spoken of

http://www.labbio. net/index. php?page= order

You can interpret it yourself to a large degree by looking in the files

section here at AM where you'll find some papers on how to do that.

Anita