Re: OT: Dana Using OLE and need suggestions/ Reply to your thoughts!

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ana,

YOur thoughts to below

Bridget

> > Dana,

> > I've seen your posts and experience with OLE.

> > and would like some advice.

> > I am now up to 125mgs 3x a day trying to get up to that magic

500mgs

> > 3x a day. She has the chewies (lots of gum) somewhat defiant and

> > bitchy emotional.

doing so much better now, both my husband (and he never sees any

ifference) and I see how much better she is doing, socially,

following direction etc, much less hyperactivity, she can leave the

computer, TV, etc, and when what we aske,WHO@!

>

>

> This is probably yeast overgrowth. Candidase alone would not have

> been sufficient to keep yeast away, for my son. I had to use biotin

> and GSE.

GSE works here, but we have never been able to make biotin work

>

>

> > Knowing they all are different, when do I know when to stop?

>

>

> I started OLE one winter, to avoid colds and flu [which it did, no

> illnesses that winter]. That spring, I removed it, thinking it was

no

> longer required. WRONG! My kids had a major regression. I never

> really noticed an improvement until I tried to remove it.

>

> Overall, they needed OLE for two years. One sign you can use to

know

> how long to give the OLE, is that so long as there is yeast

> overgrowth, you probably need it.

>

> Adding Virastop can move the process along quickely

I trie adding Virastop with additional Candidases, the yeast was so

bad, I had to stop. She can handle the 500 mgs OLE with 4 candidase

and 1/2 pep. But not the additional Virastop. To weird socially at

12, almost 13

>

> Once they no longer needed OLE and Virastop, they still needed

massive

> doses of vitamin C and lysine. Those are the nutrients that were

> required to get *all* the viruses out of my son's brain, and keep

new

> ones from going back in. If you want to give these supps now, while

> stil giving the OLE, be sure to give the lysine at least 2 hours

apart

> from the OLE.

We're at 24,ooo mgs Vit C, barely poops every day. I think I need to

find a magensium she can tolerate. Only doing epsum salts. The other

magnesium had " malate " which made her very hyper.Something about

malate chelating aluminum

> > Foods have always been our main issue.

> > Thoughts, ideas?

>

>

> Certain other supps were required for food issues, primarily B

> vitamins and selenium.

>

>

> > When I say very high functioning, she just got an honors awards,

has

> > friends, does social things, etc. But food reactions is

ridiculous.

> > And she is still, uhmm different...

>

>

> Which foods?

NO SUGARS NONE, no honey, no sugar. SHe needs mucho protien, but I

still can't get her to tolerate any sugars..Virus, or diabetes? But

she is so thin, enzymes, for carbs. We o enzymes with every meal.

>

> And what about her is " different " ?

The hyperactivity, which is getting better. But this age at 13. The

other girls just can't eal with it. We've trie GABA, and she lsot her

personal space, etc. So, I am pretty sure it is yeast.

>

>

> > we're up to 12,ooo mgs Vit C 2x a day,

>

>

> At my house, my son needed 50,000mgs per day. It did require

> carnitine for proper absorption here.

>

>

> > I tried acetylcholine for fats, she lost her appetite. And we do

low

> > levels of concerta and ritalin to help with the focus.

We starte CQ 10, it's looking good!

>

>

> For fats, my kids needed mito cocktail and vitamin K.

>

> http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm

>

>

> >>But the yeast from the OLE, has made her somewhat

> > constipated.

I'll try her on magnesium, may be she can finally tolerate it. What's

the difference between epsom slts an magnseium?

>

>

> Use biotin [with magnesium for proper absorption] and maybe some

GSE also.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

ana,

YOur thoughts to below

Bridget

> > Dana,

> > I've seen your posts and experience with OLE.

> > and would like some advice.

> > I am now up to 125mgs 3x a day trying to get up to that magic

500mgs

> > 3x a day. She has the chewies (lots of gum) somewhat defiant and

> > bitchy emotional.

doing so much better now, both my husband (and he never sees any

ifference) and I see how much better she is doing, socially,

following direction etc, much less hyperactivity, she can leave the

computer, TV, etc, and when what we aske,WHO@!

>

>

> This is probably yeast overgrowth. Candidase alone would not have

> been sufficient to keep yeast away, for my son. I had to use biotin

> and GSE.

GSE works here, but we have never been able to make biotin work

>

>

> > Knowing they all are different, when do I know when to stop?

>

>

> I started OLE one winter, to avoid colds and flu [which it did, no

> illnesses that winter]. That spring, I removed it, thinking it was

no

> longer required. WRONG! My kids had a major regression. I never

> really noticed an improvement until I tried to remove it.

>

> Overall, they needed OLE for two years. One sign you can use to

know

> how long to give the OLE, is that so long as there is yeast

> overgrowth, you probably need it.

>

> Adding Virastop can move the process along quickely

I trie adding Virastop with additional Candidases, the yeast was so

bad, I had to stop. She can handle the 500 mgs OLE with 4 candidase

and 1/2 pep. But not the additional Virastop. To weird socially at

12, almost 13

>

> Once they no longer needed OLE and Virastop, they still needed

massive

> doses of vitamin C and lysine. Those are the nutrients that were

> required to get *all* the viruses out of my son's brain, and keep

new

> ones from going back in. If you want to give these supps now, while

> stil giving the OLE, be sure to give the lysine at least 2 hours

apart

> from the OLE.

We're at 24,ooo mgs Vit C, barely poops every day. I think I need to

find a magensium she can tolerate. Only doing epsum salts. The other

magnesium had " malate " which made her very hyper.Something about

malate chelating aluminum

> > Foods have always been our main issue.

> > Thoughts, ideas?

>

>

> Certain other supps were required for food issues, primarily B

> vitamins and selenium.

>

>

> > When I say very high functioning, she just got an honors awards,

has

> > friends, does social things, etc. But food reactions is

ridiculous.

> > And she is still, uhmm different...

>

>

> Which foods?

NO SUGARS NONE, no honey, no sugar. SHe needs mucho protien, but I

still can't get her to tolerate any sugars..Virus, or diabetes? But

she is so thin, enzymes, for carbs. We o enzymes with every meal.

>

> And what about her is " different " ?

The hyperactivity, which is getting better. But this age at 13. The

other girls just can't eal with it. We've trie GABA, and she lsot her

personal space, etc. So, I am pretty sure it is yeast.

>

>

> > we're up to 12,ooo mgs Vit C 2x a day,

>

>

> At my house, my son needed 50,000mgs per day. It did require

> carnitine for proper absorption here.

>

>

> > I tried acetylcholine for fats, she lost her appetite. And we do

low

> > levels of concerta and ritalin to help with the focus.

We starte CQ 10, it's looking good!

>

>

> For fats, my kids needed mito cocktail and vitamin K.

>

> http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm

>

>

> >>But the yeast from the OLE, has made her somewhat

> > constipated.

I'll try her on magnesium, may be she can finally tolerate it. What's

the difference between epsom slts an magnseium?

>

>

> Use biotin [with magnesium for proper absorption] and maybe some

GSE also.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> > This is probably yeast overgrowth. Candidase alone would not have

> > been sufficient to keep yeast away, for my son. I had to use biotin

> > and GSE.

>

> GSE works here, but we have never been able to make biotin work

Then keep the GSE. How much biotin were you using, and did you give

it with magnesium? At my house, the biotin was required for long-term

effects. Biotin deficiency was one of the underlying causes for why

my son had yeast overgrowth issues in the first place.

> I trie adding Virastop with additional Candidases, the yeast was so

> bad, I had to stop.

Yes, viral die off tends to cause a lot of yeast. So if the viruses

are dying off too fast, you can end up with way too much yeast.

> We're at 24,ooo mgs Vit C, barely poops every day. I think I need to

> find a magensium she can tolerate. Only doing epsum salts. The other

> magnesium had " malate " which made her very hyper.Something about

> malate chelating aluminum

Do you give the vitamin C with carnitine? That was required at my

house. And, because vitamin C does pull viruses, it can cause yeast

overgrowth, which can be constipating. So even tho high doses of

vitamin C generally cause diarrhea, it was constipating here until I

increased the yeast protocol.

The most C I ever gave was 50,000mg per day.

I use magnesium aspartate.

> NO SUGARS NONE, no honey, no sugar. SHe needs mucho protien, but I

> still can't get her to tolerate any sugars..Virus, or diabetes? But

> she is so thin, enzymes, for carbs. We o enzymes with every meal.

If you suspect diabetes, try giving her chromium.

Sugars do increase yeast, so try the biotin.

One of my kids was rail thin until I gave him mito cocktail and EFAs.

> > And what about her is " different " ?

> The hyperactivity, which is getting better. But this age at 13. The

> other girls just can't eal with it. We've trie GABA, and she lsot her

> personal space, etc. So, I am pretty sure it is yeast.

Definitely can be yeast. Can also be a few other things also.

> I'll try her on magnesium, may be she can finally tolerate it. What's

> the difference between epsom slts an magnseium?

Epsom salts are magnesium that are absorbed thru the skin. I give

oral magnesium.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana,

I tried chromium before re below, but didn't help

Do you have any ideas to help my dd tolerate some minimal amount of

sugar or honey other than killing yeast, as we've been at the yeast

killing aloooong time...

We do enzymes, with No Fenol, and she can finally tolerate probioics

an S boulardi, still can't tolerate yeast. Hyperacivity has always

been a problem.

> > > This is probably yeast overgrowth. Candidase alone would not

have

> > > been sufficient to keep yeast away, for my son. I had to use

biotin

> > > and GSE.

> >

> > GSE works here, but we have never been able to make biotin work

>

>

> Then keep the GSE. How much biotin were you using, and did you give

> it with magnesium? At my house, the biotin was required for long-

term

> effects. Biotin deficiency was one of the underlying causes for why

> my son had yeast overgrowth issues in the first place.

>

>

> > I trie adding Virastop with additional Candidases, the yeast was

so

> > bad, I had to stop.

>

>

> Yes, viral die off tends to cause a lot of yeast. So if the viruses

> are dying off too fast, you can end up with way too much yeast.

>

>

> > We're at 24,ooo mgs Vit C, barely poops every day. I think I need

to

> > find a magensium she can tolerate. Only doing epsum salts. The

other

> > magnesium had " malate " which made her very hyper.Something about

> > malate chelating aluminum

>

>

> Do you give the vitamin C with carnitine? That was required at my

> house. And, because vitamin C does pull viruses, it can cause yeast

> overgrowth, which can be constipating. So even tho high doses of

> vitamin C generally cause diarrhea, it was constipating here until I

> increased the yeast protocol.

>

> The most C I ever gave was 50,000mg per day.

>

> I use magnesium aspartate.

>

>

> > NO SUGARS NONE, no honey, no sugar. SHe needs mucho protien, but

I

> > still can't get her to tolerate any sugars..Virus, or diabetes?

But

> > she is so thin, enzymes, for carbs. We o enzymes with every meal.

>

>

> If you suspect diabetes, try giving her chromium.

>

> Sugars do increase yeast, so try the biotin.

>

> One of my kids was rail thin until I gave him mito cocktail and

EFAs.

>

>

> > > And what about her is " different " ?

> > The hyperactivity, which is getting better. But this age at 13.

The

> > other girls just can't eal with it. We've trie GABA, and she lsot

her

> > personal space, etc. So, I am pretty sure it is yeast.

>

>

> Definitely can be yeast. Can also be a few other things also.

>

>

> > I'll try her on magnesium, may be she can finally tolerate it.

What's

> > the difference between epsom slts an magnseium?

>

>

> Epsom salts are magnesium that are absorbed thru the skin. I give

> oral magnesium.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> Dana,

> I tried chromium before re below, but didn't help

Then the problem may not be inability to regulate blood sugar.

> Do you have any ideas to help my dd tolerate some minimal amount of

> sugar or honey other than killing yeast, as we've been at the yeast

> killing aloooong time...

Is her problem with sugar/honey that she does not tolerate them, or

that they increase yeast?

Dana