lie - Microbial OAT test, very high ARABINOSE/update

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Hey lie!

You might want to check out the Vitamin K support group. Catharine Tomaro can

be of a lot of help. I have my boys on the vitamin K protocol and they receive

6 mg of Vit K2 every day. So, that is probably why they have never had problems

with the CLO or fish oil causing bruising or nose bleeds.

Check out that support group and you can get some help getting all the fat

soluble vitamins sorted out so that the right amount of each is given so there

are not negative side effects.

Dana

rosalie bernardo <sally2693@...> wrote:

Hi Dana (Pope),

Thank you for that input. I actually have a few

bottles at home because I used to give this to him.

The bad part was, when he gets this, he gets

nosebleeds way too often (almost a daily thing). So I

stopped it, and nosebleeds stopped too. One time, it

got so bad that the DAN doctor who witnessed it wanted

me to take him to ER to get his blood vessels

cauterized. I didn't take him of course. I just

stopped the CLO.

I remember DANA (from dana's view) mentioning to give

some vit K, if nosebleeds occur. I'll have to find

that post again, or if you are reading this DANA, is

it Vit K that I have to give to prevent nosebleeds. Is

CLO a blood thinner? What is the reasoning behind this

side effects from CLO?

Anyone? Thanks.

lie

--- dana pope <danamichellepope@...> wrote:

> lie,

>

> One thing that worked well to help my children

> start actually looking at people with great eye

> contact (and they look at strangers too) was green

> pastures high vitamin Cod Liver Oil. When we

> started that on Monday, their speech therapist said

> on Tuesday that all of a sudden they were noticing

> that she was a person and not just a blob. It

> helped them that fast. They have been on CLO for a

> year now and still have very good eye contact for

> children with autism. Their problem that continues

> to exist is problems with knowing how to play

> properly with toys, developmental delays, and no

> language. We have just started chelation with DMSA

> and are noticing some improvements and this summer

> will start antivirals.

>

> Dana

>

> rosalie bernardo <sally2693@...> wrote:

> Thank you to all who responded.

>

> I want to give you an update. My son started calming

> down: what I did was, I increase the biotin, I

> increased the GSE, started Nystatin and gave him

> some

> charcoal at night.

>

> Yesterday during his ST session, the speech

> pathologist was beaming and reported how my son did

> the matching activity all on his own and did it in

> less than 2 minutes on paper. It's about 8 items on

> the left and 8 on the right side, and you're suppose

> to match a shirt with the pants, toothbrush with the

> toothpaste, etc. She was very impressed that he

> could

> do this. I've always known that he could because my

> husband and I are always working with him on

> academics

> because ABA does not focus on that.

>

> Our main problem with our son is his speech (he

> still

> does not converse with us) He has a lot of language,

> but mostly prompted. Our second problem is his

> hyperactivity, eye contact and lack of attention. He

> hears instructions and follow it well, but if he has

> to look at you to imitate, he sometimes miss it,

> because he does not focus.

>

> I will start chelation soon. May 1st if possible

> using

> AC protocol. I know yeast is going to be a big

> problem again. I'm just so tired of this darn yeast.

> I

> can't seem to keep it under control.

>

> We are now doing biotin, GSE and nystatin to tackle

> this beast. For probiotics, we are using Threelac. I

> will start the No Fenol with GSE today.

>

> Thank you for the support.

>

> lie

>

> --- mildcasedad <mildcasedad@...> wrote:

>

> > Hi lie,

> >

> > We've had pretty good success with Dana's method

> and

> > have gone up to

> > 7-12 drops 2x daily when yeast is a big issue, but

> > usually go with

> > 3-4. [Our son is 42 lbs.]

> >

> > Have you tried combining the GSE with enzymes that

> > help weaken the

> > yeast like No-Fenol (Houston Nutriceuticals) or

> > Candidase

> > (Enzymedica)? You give the enzymes about an hour+

> > before the GSE.

> > That should strengthen the effect of the GSE.

> >

> > We've also been using probiotics (given at least

> an

> > hour before

> > enzymes, and on an empty stomach) such as Sac-B,

> > Culturelle, and

> > Threelac as well as broader-based probiotics

> > (Kirkmans or Klaire,

> > etc). The former help you attack the yeast (and

> > bacteria) and the

> > latter provide more beneficial organisms to

> compete

> > with the bad stuff

> > after it gets whacked. Why give the broad-based

> > probiotics? If you

> > whack down something without providing something

> > else to replace it,

> > it will just grow back.

> >

> > Other things for yeast are Pau d'arco, uva ursi,

> ...

> > rotate these, and

> > give with food (and the GSE).

> >

> > Good luck!

> >

> >

> > > > > My son's microbial oat test just arrived.

> > > > Everything

> > > > > is in the normal range except for ARABINOSE

> > with

> > > > > normal level of 0-47 and my son's result was

> > 115.

> > > > The

> > > > > interpretations indicates yeast overgrowth.

> My

> > > > > question is, does anyone know which

> antifungal

> > > > > specifically targets the ARABINOSE? Is this

> a

> > > > strain

> > > > > of yeast or just a marker that determines

> > fungal

> > > > > growth?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So far as I understand it, it is a yeast

> > byproduct,

> > > > so it is a marker.

> > > >

> > > > At my house, biotin and GSE eliminated all

> > strains

> > > > of yeast.

> > > >

> > > > Dana

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Dana,

Thanks! Wow, I didn't know that there is a vit K

support group. Will you please send me the web address

or the link would be more helpful.

Thank you again for telling me about this.

lie

--- dana pope <danamichellepope@...> wrote:

> Hey lie!

>

> You might want to check out the Vitamin K support

> group. Catharine Tomaro can be of a lot of help. I

> have my boys on the vitamin K protocol and they

> receive 6 mg of Vit K2 every day. So, that is

> probably why they have never had problems with the

> CLO or fish oil causing bruising or nose bleeds.

>

> Check out that support group and you can get some

> help getting all the fat soluble vitamins sorted out

> so that the right amount of each is given so there

> are not negative side effects.

>

> Dana

>

> rosalie bernardo <sally2693@...> wrote:

> Hi Dana (Pope),

>

> Thank you for that input. I actually have a few

> bottles at home because I used to give this to him.

> The bad part was, when he gets this, he gets

> nosebleeds way too often (almost a daily thing). So

> I

> stopped it, and nosebleeds stopped too. One time, it

> got so bad that the DAN doctor who witnessed it

> wanted

> me to take him to ER to get his blood vessels

> cauterized. I didn't take him of course. I just

> stopped the CLO.

>

> I remember DANA (from dana's view) mentioning to

> give

> some vit K, if nosebleeds occur. I'll have to find

> that post again, or if you are reading this DANA, is

> it Vit K that I have to give to prevent nosebleeds.

> Is

> CLO a blood thinner? What is the reasoning behind

> this

> side effects from CLO?

>

> Anyone? Thanks.

>

> lie

>

> --- dana pope <danamichellepope@...> wrote:

>

> > lie,

> >

> > One thing that worked well to help my children

> > start actually looking at people with great eye

> > contact (and they look at strangers too) was green

> > pastures high vitamin Cod Liver Oil. When we

> > started that on Monday, their speech therapist

> said

> > on Tuesday that all of a sudden they were noticing

> > that she was a person and not just a blob. It

> > helped them that fast. They have been on CLO for a

> > year now and still have very good eye contact for

> > children with autism. Their problem that continues

> > to exist is problems with knowing how to play

> > properly with toys, developmental delays, and no

> > language. We have just started chelation with DMSA

> > and are noticing some improvements and this summer

> > will start antivirals.

> >

> > Dana

> >

> > rosalie bernardo <sally2693@...> wrote:

> > Thank you to all who responded.

> >

> > I want to give you an update. My son started

> calming

> > down: what I did was, I increase the biotin, I

> > increased the GSE, started Nystatin and gave him

> > some

> > charcoal at night.

> >

> > Yesterday during his ST session, the speech

> > pathologist was beaming and reported how my son

> did

> > the matching activity all on his own and did it in

> > less than 2 minutes on paper. It's about 8 items

> on

> > the left and 8 on the right side, and you're

> suppose

> > to match a shirt with the pants, toothbrush with

> the

> > toothpaste, etc. She was very impressed that he

> > could

> > do this. I've always known that he could because

> my

> > husband and I are always working with him on

> > academics

> > because ABA does not focus on that.

> >

> > Our main problem with our son is his speech (he

> > still

> > does not converse with us) He has a lot of

> language,

> > but mostly prompted. Our second problem is his

> > hyperactivity, eye contact and lack of attention.

> He

> > hears instructions and follow it well, but if he

> has

> > to look at you to imitate, he sometimes miss it,

> > because he does not focus.

> >

> > I will start chelation soon. May 1st if possible

> > using

> > AC protocol. I know yeast is going to be a big

> > problem again. I'm just so tired of this darn

> yeast.

> > I

> > can't seem to keep it under control.

> >

> > We are now doing biotin, GSE and nystatin to

> tackle

> > this beast. For probiotics, we are using Threelac.

> I

> > will start the No Fenol with GSE today.

> >

> > Thank you for the support.

> >

> > lie

> >

> > --- mildcasedad <mildcasedad@...> wrote:

> >

> > > Hi lie,

> > >

> > > We've had pretty good success with Dana's method

> > and

> > > have gone up to

> > > 7-12 drops 2x daily when yeast is a big issue,

> but

> > > usually go with

> > > 3-4. [Our son is 42 lbs.]

> > >

> > > Have you tried combining the GSE with enzymes

> that

> > > help weaken the

> > > yeast like No-Fenol (Houston Nutriceuticals) or

> > > Candidase

> > > (Enzymedica)? You give the enzymes about an

> hour+

> > > before the GSE.

> > > That should strengthen the effect of the GSE.

> > >

> > > We've also been using probiotics (given at least

> > an

> > > hour before

> > > enzymes, and on an empty stomach) such as Sac-B,

> > > Culturelle, and

> > > Threelac as well as broader-based probiotics

> > > (Kirkmans or Klaire,

> > > etc). The former help you attack the yeast (and

> > > bacteria) and the

> > > latter provide more beneficial organisms to

> > compete

> > > with the bad stuff

> > > after it gets whacked. Why give the broad-based

> > > probiotics? If you

> > > whack down something without providing something

> > > else to replace it,

> > > it will just grow back.

> > >

> > > Other things for yeast are Pau d'arco, uva ursi,

> > ...

> > > rotate these, and

> > > give with food (and the GSE).

> > >

> > > Good luck!

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks Dana,

> > > >

> > > > I've been using GSE and Biotin for my son.

> > > >

> > > > Up to this date I've been increasing and so

> far

> > > I've

> > > > been giving him 7 drops of GSE at least 2x a

> > day,

> > > > Biotin 2000mcg 2x a day. He is about 44 lbs.

> > > > Just recently, I've added Nystatin as well.

> This

> > > > results was approx. 3.5 weeks ago, which I

> > barely

> > > got

> > > > yesterday. He's been so hyperactive and not in

> > > control

> > > > of himself as far as hyperactivity and his

> > > attention

> > > > is poor and showing verbal stims, jumping and

> > > > irritable.

> > > >

> > > > For two days now, I've been giving 1 charcoal

> at

>

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