Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Steve, It is best to chew it as digestion begins in the mouth. (Makayla'smom) steve <xanax006@...> wrote: Question about chlorella for detox. i take Dr. K's biopure. i think i recall someone on the list telling me it's okay to chew the tablets. i prefer to chew them because it tastes like food to me, as opposed to another pill. will this affect its toxin chelating properties in any way, if it's digested before it gets to my intestines? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Hi Steve, if I remember well, Dr. K. said it's better to take the thing in powder than in capsules because of better absorption. So chewing should be great, I suppose!! I know we can add it to soup, sauces etc, so it's somehow like 'eating' them too. My daughter takes it in powder in her milk. Selma > > Steve, It is best to chew it as digestion begins in the mouth. > (Makayla'smom) > > > steve <xanax006@...> wrote: > Question about chlorella for detox. i take Dr. K's biopure. i think i > recall > someone on the list telling me it's okay to chew the tablets. i prefer > to chew > them because it tastes like food to me, as opposed to another pill. > will this affect its > toxin chelating properties in any way, if it's digested before it gets > to my intestines? > > Steve > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Steve, I'm not sure what Dr. K. says for chlorella before bed. He suggests the cillantro before bed (for the ones without amalgams and for the ones who did some metal detox already, I suppose), which will also liberate metals. So it could also help on that. I've been taking it also always before bed since April. I take it also non-related to eating time when I feel I need it, and it does work too. I take all Buhner's herbs before bed (I try to do 8-16-24 hs schedule as best as I can, like how we take antibiotics), so it's killing critters during sleep, toxins come out too. Plus I use the KMT at night, so more toxins, more metals. So, the night is one of the most important times to take chlorella for me. This last week I've been on a high release of metals due to tapping and EFT, I'm taking chlorella minimum 5 times a day, I even don't count it anymore, about 15-20 pills every time or more. Before food and in between food too. How are you doing lately? Some improvement? Are you being able to take a bit more of the CP? HOw's your knotweed going? Selma > > i called the people at Bio Pure and they mentioned (and this is backed > up in Dr K's > lyme / neurotoxin protocol) - take it about 40 min before meals - that > way it's in your > stomach when you start releasing bile into your intestines (apparently > the bile has > toxins that need to be absorbed - otherwise they re-circulate). also > take it as far > away as possible from vit C - because the C causes the chlorella to > lose it's bind > on metals and they can re-circulate. > also Dr K mentions to take chlorella before going to sleep. not sure > what this > is done for - perhaps to mop up toxins that get released during sleep?? > > Steve > > > On Oct 5, 2006, at 1:28 PM, joyce la fleur wrote: > > > Ok everyone, I thought we were suppose to take chorella away from food > > supps etc. On empty stomach. One of Dr K articles said to take it > > before lunch I believe it was on empty stomach. In my brain fog,do I > > have this wrong? Steve,Selma, others? Would appreciate clarity. > > Thanks Joyce > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Hi Selma, good advice. as far as my progress, it's too slow to be of any significance. i have not even begun to really sink into the cp. because of my chemical sensitivities, it can take me a month to acclimate myself to one single dose of an herb. i am now taking the resveratrol with absolutely no side effects. if anything, i may even be improving a bit just by taking that. i also take a smilax pill concoction from dr. zhang - which seems to have no side effects but i've been jittery the last few times i've taken it. it also may be because i tried a small sprinkle of the raintree cat's claw as well. i can't tell if there's some kind of symbiotic interaction between those two herbs or whether i'm reacting because the cat's claw is not TOA free. so i have to experiment w/ different variables. i ordered the KMT unit from Bio Tools and it's taking a very long time to arrive. i'll have to call them. the last few days have been a bit of a releif from symptoms. i'm wondering if it's not from the fact that cold weather (here in NYC) is causing the mold to chill out on the neurotoxin release. Steve On Oct 8, 2006, at 5:10 AM, selmanaka wrote: > Steve, I'm not sure what Dr. K. says for chlorella before bed. He > suggests the cillantro before bed (for the ones without amalgams and > for the ones who did some metal detox already, I suppose), which will > also liberate metals. So it could also help on that. > > I've been taking it also always before bed since April. I take it > also non-related to eating time when I feel I need it, and it does > work too. I take all Buhner's herbs before bed (I try to do 8-16-24 > hs schedule as best as I can, like how we take antibiotics), so it's > killing critters during sleep, toxins come out too. Plus I use the > KMT at night, so more toxins, more metals. So, the night is one of > the most important times to take chlorella for me. > > This last week I've been on a high release of metals due to tapping > and EFT, I'm taking chlorella minimum 5 times a day, I even don't > count it anymore, about 15-20 pills every time or more. Before food > and in between food too. > > How are you doing lately? Some improvement? Are you being able to > take a bit more of the CP? HOw's your knotweed going? > > Selma > > > > > i called the people at Bio Pure and they mentioned (and this is > backed > > up in Dr K's > > lyme / neurotoxin protocol) - take it about 40 min before meals - > that > > way it's in your > > stomach when you start releasing bile into your intestines > (apparently > > the bile has > > toxins that need to be absorbed - otherwise they re-circulate). > also > > take it as far > > away as possible from vit C - because the C causes the chlorella to > > lose it's bind > > on metals and they can re-circulate. > > also Dr K mentions to take chlorella before going to sleep. not > sure > > what this > > is done for - perhaps to mop up toxins that get released during > sleep?? > > > > Steve > > > > > > On Oct 5, 2006, at 1:28 PM, joyce la fleur wrote: > > > > > Ok everyone, I thought we were suppose to take chorella away from > food > > > supps etc. On empty stomach. One of Dr K articles said to take it > > > before lunch I believe it was on empty stomach. In my brain > fog,do I > > > have this wrong? Steve,Selma, others? Would appreciate > clarity. > > > Thanks Joyce > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Hi Steve, good to see there has been some improvements. Congrats on the knotweed! I remember it took me quite some time to take all 4 herbs together, I started with cats claw, very slow, then added sarsaparilla, then I don't remember if it was andro or knotweed. I also took astragalus as I was not to old infected. November and December 05 were used just trying to get used to cats claw ONLY, discover which brand was best... I was also on salt and C so pretty harsh to do both in the begining, when I was full of critters. Jitters may be herx, at least for me it was often herx. Taking things to cleanse helped. If I knew lymph drainage at that time, I think it would have helped too. If you know someone doing that in your area, try to do a few times, you'll learn fast how they do and can do yourself. It's a fast relief for toxins. When you say concoction, does it mean you cook the herb for about 20- 30 minutes in water? Great you have asked for the KMT. It's a wonder tool for me. Works well with herbs together. Helps cleansing too, I feel. I did a second run of parasite cleanse (Gastro-intestinal and brain) for the last 4- 6 weeks, I think I'm free of them again. I think they have many orders and may be short of units. Just keep asking, ask about detailed info too on how to run programs, where to attach pads... Or the unit will come with almost no instructions. Glad to hear you feel a bit better! Take care, Selma > > Hi Selma, > > good advice. as far as my progress, it's too slow to be of any > significance. > i have not even begun to really sink into the cp. because of my chemical > sensitivities, it can take me a month to acclimate myself to one single > dose > of an herb. i am now taking the resveratrol with absolutely no side > effects. > if anything, i may even be improving a bit just by taking that. i also > take > a smilax pill concoction from dr. zhang - which seems to have no side > effects > but i've been jittery the last few times i've taken it. it also may be > because i > tried a small sprinkle of the raintree cat's claw as well. i can't tell > if there's > some kind of symbiotic interaction between those two herbs or whether > i'm reacting > because the cat's claw is not TOA free. so i have to experiment w/ > different variables. > i ordered the KMT unit from Bio Tools and it's taking a very long time > to arrive. > i'll have to call them. the last few days have been a bit of a releif > from symptoms. > i'm wondering if it's not from the fact that cold weather (here in NYC) > is causing the > mold to chill out on the neurotoxin release. > > Steve > > > On Oct 8, 2006, at 5:10 AM, selmanaka wrote: > > > Steve, I'm not sure what Dr. K. says for chlorella before bed. He > > suggests the cillantro before bed (for the ones without amalgams and > > for the ones who did some metal detox already, I suppose), which will > > also liberate metals. So it could also help on that. > > > > I've been taking it also always before bed since April. I take it > > also non-related to eating time when I feel I need it, and it does > > work too. I take all Buhner's herbs before bed (I try to do 8-16- 24 > > hs schedule as best as I can, like how we take antibiotics), so it's > > killing critters during sleep, toxins come out too. Plus I use the > > KMT at night, so more toxins, more metals. So, the night is one of > > the most important times to take chlorella for me. > > > > This last week I've been on a high release of metals due to tapping > > and EFT, I'm taking chlorella minimum 5 times a day, I even don't > > count it anymore, about 15-20 pills every time or more. Before food > > and in between food too. > > > > How are you doing lately? Some improvement? Are you being able to > > take a bit more of the CP? HOw's your knotweed going? > > > > Selma > > > > > > > > i called the people at Bio Pure and they mentioned (and this is > > backed > > > up in Dr K's > > > lyme / neurotoxin protocol) - take it about 40 min before meals - > > that > > > way it's in your > > > stomach when you start releasing bile into your intestines > > (apparently > > > the bile has > > > toxins that need to be absorbed - otherwise they re-circulate). > > also > > > take it as far > > > away as possible from vit C - because the C causes the chlorella to > > > lose it's bind > > > on metals and they can re-circulate. > > > also Dr K mentions to take chlorella before going to sleep. not > > sure > > > what this > > > is done for - perhaps to mop up toxins that get released during > > sleep?? > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > On Oct 5, 2006, at 1:28 PM, joyce la fleur wrote: > > > > > > > Ok everyone, I thought we were suppose to take chorella away from > > food > > > > supps etc. On empty stomach. One of Dr K articles said to take it > > > > before lunch I believe it was on empty stomach. In my brain > > fog,do I > > > > have this wrong? Steve,Selma, others? Would appreciate > > clarity. > > > > Thanks Joyce > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Selma, when i say concoction, no, i don't mean cooking the herb - i meant that dr. zhang has a smilax herb but it's combined with a bunch of other herbs that i've never heard of. i suppose i wrongfully called this a " concoction " . the supplement is called R-5081 - it seems to have coptis and licorice root as well. perhaps that explains the jittery side effect. Steve On Oct 8, 2006, at 4:24 PM, selmanaka wrote: > Hi Steve, good to see there has been some improvements. Congrats on > the knotweed! > > I remember it took me quite some time to take all 4 herbs together, I > started with cats claw, very slow, then added sarsaparilla, then I > don't remember if it was andro or knotweed. I also took astragalus as > I was not to old infected. > > November and December 05 were used just trying to get used to cats > claw ONLY, discover which brand was best... I was also on salt and C > so pretty harsh to do both in the begining, when I was full of > critters. > > Jitters may be herx, at least for me it was often herx. Taking things > to cleanse helped. If I knew lymph drainage at that time, I think it > would have helped too. If you know someone doing that in your area, > try to do a few times, you'll learn fast how they do and can do > yourself. It's a fast relief for toxins. > > When you say concoction, does it mean you cook the herb for about 20- > 30 minutes in water? > > Great you have asked for the KMT. It's a wonder tool for me. Works > well with herbs together. Helps cleansing too, I feel. I did a second > run of parasite cleanse (Gastro-intestinal and brain) for the last 4- > 6 weeks, I think I'm free of them again. > > I think they have many orders and may be short of units. Just keep > asking, ask about detailed info too on how to run programs, where to > attach pads... Or the unit will come with almost no instructions. > > Glad to hear you feel a bit better! > > Take care, > Selma > > > > > Hi Selma, > > > > good advice. as far as my progress, it's too slow to be of any > > significance. > > i have not even begun to really sink into the cp. because of my > chemical > > sensitivities, it can take me a month to acclimate myself to one > single > > dose > > of an herb. i am now taking the resveratrol with absolutely no side > > effects. > > if anything, i may even be improving a bit just by taking that. i > also > > take > > a smilax pill concoction from dr. zhang - which seems to have no > side > > effects > > but i've been jittery the last few times i've taken it. it also may > be > > because i > > tried a small sprinkle of the raintree cat's claw as well. i can't > tell > > if there's > > some kind of symbiotic interaction between those two herbs or > whether > > i'm reacting > > because the cat's claw is not TOA free. so i have to experiment w/ > > different variables. > > i ordered the KMT unit from Bio Tools and it's taking a very long > time > > to arrive. > > i'll have to call them. the last few days have been a bit of a > releif > > from symptoms. > > i'm wondering if it's not from the fact that cold weather (here in > NYC) > > is causing the > > mold to chill out on the neurotoxin release. > > > > Steve > > > > > > On Oct 8, 2006, at 5:10 AM, selmanaka wrote: > > > > > Steve, I'm not sure what Dr. K. says for chlorella before bed. He > > > suggests the cillantro before bed (for the ones without amalgams > and > > > for the ones who did some metal detox already, I suppose), which > will > > > also liberate metals. So it could also help on that. > > > > > > I've been taking it also always before bed since April. I take it > > > also non-related to eating time when I feel I need it, and it > does > > > work too. I take all Buhner's herbs before bed (I try to do 8-16- > 24 > > > hs schedule as best as I can, like how we take antibiotics), so > it's > > > killing critters during sleep, toxins come out too. Plus I use > the > > > KMT at night, so more toxins, more metals. So, the night is one > of > > > the most important times to take chlorella for me. > > > > > > This last week I've been on a high release of metals due to > tapping > > > and EFT, I'm taking chlorella minimum 5 times a day, I even don't > > > count it anymore, about 15-20 pills every time or more. Before > food > > > and in between food too. > > > > > > How are you doing lately? Some improvement? Are you being able to > > > take a bit more of the CP? HOw's your knotweed going? > > > > > > Selma > > > > > > > > > > > i called the people at Bio Pure and they mentioned (and this is > > > backed > > > > up in Dr K's > > > > lyme / neurotoxin protocol) - take it about 40 min before > meals - > > > that > > > > way it's in your > > > > stomach when you start releasing bile into your intestines > > > (apparently > > > > the bile has > > > > toxins that need to be absorbed - otherwise they re-circulate). > > > also > > > > take it as far > > > > away as possible from vit C - because the C causes the > chlorella to > > > > lose it's bind > > > > on metals and they can re-circulate. > > > > also Dr K mentions to take chlorella before going to sleep. not > > > sure > > > > what this > > > > is done for - perhaps to mop up toxins that get released during > > > sleep?? > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 5, 2006, at 1:28 PM, joyce la fleur wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ok everyone, I thought we were suppose to take chorella away > from > > > food > > > > > supps etc. On empty stomach. One of Dr K articles said to > take it > > > > > before lunch I believe it was on empty stomach. In my brain > > > fog,do I > > > > > have this wrong? Steve,Selma, others? Would appreciate > > > clarity. > > > > > Thanks Joyce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Selma, Are you saying, then, that one shouldn't take Astragalus if they have a long term infection? Is that in the book? I don't remember seeing it. Thanks, Ballady > > > > > > > > > Ok everyone, I thought we were suppose to take chorella away > from > > > food > > > > > supps etc. On empty stomach. One of Dr K articles said to > take it > > > > > before lunch I believe it was on empty stomach. In my brain > > > fog,do I > > > > > have this wrong? Steve,Selma, others? Would appreciate > > > clarity. > > > > > Thanks Joyce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Hi Ballady, pg 125. With late stage lyme infection astragalus is contraindicated.as it will stimulate already overstimulated Th1 responses. This may have impact of worsening disease symptions. He goes on to say more. Take care Joyce ballady4 <ballady4@...> wrote: Selma, Are you saying, then, that one shouldn't take Astragalus if they have a long term infection? Is that in the book? I don't remember seeing it. Thanks, Ballady > > > > > > > > > Ok everyone, I thought we were suppose to take chorella away > from > > > food > > > > > supps etc. On empty stomach. One of Dr K articles said to > take it > > > > > before lunch I believe it was on empty stomach. In my brain > > > fog,do I > > > > > have this wrong? Steve,Selma, others? Would appreciate > > > clarity. > > > > > Thanks Joyce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Hi Ballady, just re-read the astragalus part, Buhner states clearly that he does not recommend it if you are long time sick with lyme because because long term sick guys become Th1 dominant (and astragalus reiinforce such dominance). The problem is that some people don't present strong Th2 dominance even being long term infected. I asked Buhner once, he said literature he read never said that long term lyme patients would be Th2 dominant, but only Th1. So astragalus was not recommended. I remember having read articles saying some people were still Th2 dominant being long time sick with lyme. For these people, astragalus would be a good herb then. A few people from other forums also said they were Th2 dominant, not Th1 like many others... Selma > Selma, > > Are you saying, then, that one shouldn't take Astragalus if they have > a long term infection? Is that in the book? I don't remember seeing it. > > Thanks, > > Ballady > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Thank you all for your replies about Astragalus. Do any of you know the specific test one would get to measure Th dominance that has been mentioned? Is it just called Th dominance? Ballady > > Hi Ballady, just re-read the astragalus part, Buhner states clearly > that he does not recommend it if you are long time sick with lyme > because because long term sick guys become Th1 dominant (and astragalus > reiinforce such dominance). > > The problem is that some people don't present strong Th2 dominance even > being long term infected. I asked Buhner once, he said literature he > read never said that long term lyme patients would be Th2 dominant, but > only Th1. So astragalus was not recommended. > > I remember having read articles saying some people were still Th2 > dominant being long time sick with lyme. For these people, astragalus > would be a good herb then. A few people from other forums also said > they were Th2 dominant, not Th1 like many others... > > Selma > > > > > Selma, > > > > Are you saying, then, that one shouldn't take Astragalus if they have > > a long term infection? Is that in the book? I don't remember seeing > it. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ballady > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Is this stuff good or bad??? (I've heard differing views.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Andy's comments from a while ago: Chlorella does not bind heavy metals much better than you do, so it only stirs them around. It is an observed fact that many people become severely worse using chlorella for " detox. " While chlorella does not bind mercury and other heavy metals any better than your body, it DOES bind them better than rocks, soil and water so there is a substantial risk of GETTING TOXIC from eating contaminated chlorella. I have seen numerous tests where someone suddenly shows up with this or that heavy metal after using chlorella when they did not have any conceivable other source of exposure. " lot analyzed " chlorella isn't safe from the above problem because the lot may be a whole pond full, while the contaminated stuff may be growing on a particular rock so that a few bottles are bad but the whole lot, on average, is OK. One of the specific ones I saw was a woman whose hair bismuth went from not detected to more than +2 standard deviations in a few months while taking chlorella. That particular chlorella was grown in the area of germany where they mine bismuth. She otherwise had no exposure. The lot analysis said the chlorella was fine, but there was no other possible source and she got a LOT of it in her (and got a lot worse taking the chlorella). Chlorella is especially bad for people with high " sulfur. " Chlorella does not in any way assist with or accelerate detox. There is absolutely no benefit to using it, so there is no point in taking the risk of it making you worse. Newton Family wrote: > > Is this stuff good or bad??? (I've heard differing views.) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 hi, billymadison303, can you please elaborate? my son does have high mercury. thanks, leah On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:24 PM, billymadison303 <billymadison303@...>wrote: > > > If your son has mercury poisoning taking chlorella would be the best way to > make his situation substantially worse. It did for me. > > > > > > > > Are any of you using this? If so, is it safe to use in the midst of > > yeast/other issues? Dosing for a 33 lb boy? > > Thank you! > > Leah > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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