Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 I've had good luck with an eyeshadow base by Garden Botanika http://www.gardenbotanika.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=1769 & it emType=PRODUCT & iMainCat=35 & iSubCat=37 & iProductID=1769 , they're also in malls. It's not too expensive, you might want to give it a try. Virginia hello I wonder if any of you can recommend something. Under my powdered eyeshadow I always have to have a base or it doesn't last more than a half hour. I've used Touch Base for Eyes from Clinique...works great but kind of more than I want to spend. I've also used Aziza All day performing fix, it works but I can't find it in any stores. Any suggestions for products or something I can make. Thanks ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 Oh, and I was poking around and found this one: this is actually the one I've used and it's on clearance: http://www.gardenbotanika.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=1978 & it emType=PRODUCT & iMainCat=44 & iSubCat=50 & iProductID=1978 Good luck! Virginia hello I wonder if any of you can recommend something. Under my powdered eyeshadow I always have to have a base or it doesn't last more than a half hour. I've used Touch Base for Eyes from Clinique...works great but kind of more than I want to spend. I've also used Aziza All day performing fix, it works but I can't find it in any stores. Any suggestions for products or something I can make. Thanks ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Thanks Don. You answered my question. I need to study up on phytochemicals and alkaloids I guess (since I haven't a clue as to what they are!). I found a place this week on the net that sells sun dried seaweed, not in sheets. My New Mexican pallet thinks it's nasty tasting (it would rather have beans and chili), but perhaps I can aquire a taste for it. I'm trying to find quick, on the run, healthy foods besides fruit and thought dulse or kombu sounded like possibilities. Come on...Don't you ever crave a reallly good burrito? You're terrific! Hi , There are a lot of other constituents in herbs and plants, besides vitamins and minerals, that are not destroyed by cooking. However, a tea or infusion, are not used for vitamins and minerals but for the other phytochemicals (alkaloids and such) that are in them. Is it bad to heat seaweed? Now that depends on how you mean. If you mean by cooking it then that probably is not going to do the minerals a lot of good. Best would be to use it uncooked. However, most seaweed you buy is already toasted to kill off the enzymes, so it will last, and most likely the minerals are all rendered inorganic. You can buy raw dehydrated seaweed, I believe, that would be great for anyone. Seaweed that is sun dried and not processed any further would be best. -- Peace, love and light, Don " Quai " Eitner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 cweeks@... wrote: > Right...but isn't this the same thing as cooking a raw food? What is > the " medicine " that's being released if not enzymes, vitamins and > minerals. > I'm not trying to be difficult,honestly! Why doesn't putting herbal > infusions > (which start out as a food anyway) in water so hot it's almost boiling > destroy > it? If it doesn't, then why aren't certain vegetables better > assimilated if > cooked? I don't get why one is considered good practice and not the other. > Thanks for your patience, > ============================ Most of the vegetables and fruits do not contain the high content of phytochemicals that are more commonly found in herbs. Most of what is found in the majority of fruits and vegetables is organic minerals, vitamins, water and lots of fiber. Now don't get me wrong here. There are other phytochemicals in them just not in a large enough quantitiy to make good infusions, tea, decoctions and tinctures. You would need a massive amount of cucumbers, say, to make the same infusion as one ounce of horehound (just for illustrative purposes, I do not believe that cucumbers have any of horehounds phytochemicals in them). Herbs, on the other hand, besides having minerals, vitamins, water and fiber also have a vast storehouse of other phytochemnicals that makes them very appropriate for teas, infusions, decoctions and tinctures. Yes, raw herbs can be used as food. Most of the food can also be used to heal, like herbs do, but only in a raw state. Why? Because the body can only use organic minerals to rebuild and maintain the tissues of the body, these can only come from raw fruits, vegetables and herbs. Vitamins help to control the processes that go on dealing with metabolism, etc. and only organic vitamins come from raw fruits, vegetables and herbs. The phytochemicals in herbs are powerful things. They can help a body to adjust or eliminate a problem much more safely than by using drugs, though it will take longer. Of course one can do the same by just going onto an all raw organic food diet, cleansing and fasting. It is all dependant on what you wish to achieve. A person really would not enjoy eating an ounce of wormwood raw or dried. Yet that ounce of wormwood could make a potent tincture where one dropperful would equal that ounce of raw or dried wormwood (again for illustrative purposes, this is not real data). In our society today, most people are unwilling to change their dietary habits because they don't believe that this is the crux of their ailments. (Thanks to the medical/phamaceutical/food industries and their spin doctors they hire to dupe us into believing they have our best interest at heart.) They are more than willing to eat herbs or medications however, as long as it isn't too imposing on their busy lifestyles. We are ignorant of truth and what is actually proper for keeping our bodies healthy. We all need to constantly research and educate ourselves. This is the only way we will ever beat the big 3 at their own game. I hope I haven't muddied up the water too much. I do hope this helps you understand. Now that I think about it I am not even sure I understand what I just wrote. LOL Just kidding. -- Peace, love and light, Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " -- In compliance with the highest standards of Universal Law, this email has been thoroughly disinfected and purified in the solar flares of the sun. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.1 - Release Date: 3/9/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 cweeks@... wrote: > Thanks Don. You answered my question. I need to study up on > phytochemicals and > alkaloids I guess (since I haven't a clue as to what they are!). I > found a > place this week on the net that sells sun dried seaweed, not in > sheets. My New > Mexican pallet thinks it's nasty tasting (it would rather have beans and > chili), but perhaps I can aquire a taste for it. I'm trying to find > quick, on > the run, healthy foods besides fruit and thought dulse or kombu > sounded like > possibilities. Come on...Don't you ever crave a reallly good burrito? > You're terrific! > ================================== A nice raw avocado and sprout burrito with tomato, onions, garlic, habaneros all rolled up in a cabbage leaf or some sort of lettuce leaf. You betcha. :-) -- Peace, love and light, Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " -- In compliance with the highest standards of Universal Law, this email has been thoroughly disinfected and purified in the solar flares of the sun. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.1 - Release Date: 3/9/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 <snip> > A nice raw avocado and sprout burrito with tomato, onions, > garlic, habaneros all rolled up in a cabbage leaf or some > sort of lettuce leaf. It never failed. Everytime I ate avocado anything at work one of the 300+ pound ladies pigging out on fried chicken with french fried potatos and washing it all down with a diet soda would turn to me and say, " avocados are high in fat " . 8-] Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Mind you, I wear my clothing loose and comfortable. For something to to fit me kind of baggy I wear size 6 petite. On my nice days I'd explain how the fat in my avocado no where compared to the fat in the junk they were eating, plus it was a " good for me " fat in the avocado. On my evil days I'd tell them I'd been loosing too much weight of late and really needed to work hard to stay above 100 pounds. One day a co-worker asked me if the breaded and deep fried chicken gizzards and livers she was eating counted as white meat or dark meat. Her dr. had told her only to eat the white meat of chickens like the breasts and cooked skinless. Then there was the time a co-worker walked up to me with a cup of coffee in one hand and a jelly donut in the other hand and asked me if I thought kava kava might help her deal with stress. I kept telling myself I was there to learn a very important lesson. Penel > ROFLMAO... and your reply was???? > >> It never failed. Everytime I ate >> avocado anything at work one of the 300+ pound ladies pigging >> out on fried chicken with french fried potatos and washing it all >> down with a diet soda would turn to me >> and say, " avocados are high in fat " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 ~~ 20+ years that's so cool Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Lil I do not know much about hybrids. The Laguna tall is one of the parent of some hybrids. It is the old coconut trees in Laguna province of the Philippines. Mr. Sev Magat would be the right person to handle this question. We tried to produce for commercial production, but the time consuming method makes it impossible to do so. We could hardly meet the demand from relatives and friends. No, we are not affiliated with any vco organization. We used to sell half liter for P400 around $8 per glass bottle. But that is a giveaway price only for relatives and friends. We do not use plastic containers as we believe the acid content of the oil would react with the chemicals used in the plastic bottles. Our oil could last for more than three years at least. We are back in mainland US and we cannot get our hands on at least 100 day old nuts. We also do not know the quality of the nuts here and they are quite costly too. I believe my hubby's method is the only one around. People who have tried other brands say it is so different and very smooth and hardly any taste. They could take it directly. Even the other chiller method users have different procedures to produce their oil. --- Coconut Oil wrote: > There are 10 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Digest Number 880 > From: melly banagale <@...> > 2. Re: Digest Number 880 > From: melly banagale <@...> > 3. Re: Digest Number 880 > From: Lillian Bache > <agreenchoice@...> > 4. Re: Digest Number 880 > From: tess mamangun <vivi_1vco@...> > 5. Re: Digest Number 880 > From: rosella villaruel > <cocongineer@...> > 6. Re: NSI VCO gelcaps? > From: rosella villaruel > <cocongineer@...> > 7. Re: Digest Number 880 > From: tess mamangun <vivi_1vco@...> > 8. Re: Digest Number 880 > From: rosella villaruel > <cocongineer@...> > 9. Re: Digest Number 880 > From: tess mamangun <vivi_1vco@...> > 10. results > From: " Iva " <cyberkat23@...> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 18:18:25 -0800 (PST) > From: melly banagale <@...> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 880 > > Lil > > A lot of manhours is used to make very good coconut > oil. It would therefore be very expensive. > > The procedure my husband uses consumes 150 laguna > tall > coconut variety nuts and only get 1 to 2 liters. No > coconut water added so that means lesser coconut > milk > but then lesser moisture too. It is indeed > excellent > oil. More for personal use coz it is too expensive > to > sell though some people do not mind the high price > due > to the quality of the oil. > > > > > > 5. Re: Coconut Oil Production > > From: tess mamangun > <vivi_1vco@...> > > > > > > __________________________________________ > DSL – Something to write home about. > Just $16.99/mo. or less. > dsl. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 18:18:32 -0800 (PST) > From: melly banagale <@...> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 880 > > Lil > > A lot of manhours is used to make very good coconut > oil. It would therefore be very expensive. > > The procedure my husband uses consumes 150 laguna > tall > coconut variety nuts and only get 1 to 2 liters. No > coconut water added so that means lesser coconut > milk > but then lesser moisture too. It is indeed > excellent > oil. More for personal use coz it is too expensive > to > sell though some people do not mind the high price > due > to the quality of the oil. > > > > > > 5. Re: Coconut Oil Production > > From: tess mamangun > <vivi_1vco@...> > > > > > > __________________________________________ > DSL – Something to write home about. > Just $16.99/mo. or less. > dsl. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 22:34:06 -0500 (EST) > From: Lillian Bache <agreenchoice@...> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 880 > > Hi , > > I just signed in and saw your message. That is > very impressive. I can just imagine how good that > oil would be - a true virgin oil. Are you > affiliated with > any coconut production company or are you > producing oil mainly for personal use? And, if you > don't mind me asking, what would be the cost per > litre and shelf life for a special oil like that? I > think it would be too expensive for our customers, > but if someone from our affiliation is in the > Philippines this year, it would be a special little > treat for us vco connoisseurs to try. Just so we > know what the real " good stuff " is like. > > I am actually very impressed with all the > producers I have become aware of through this forum. > And we hope to follow up with them within the next > few months. The ANH market segmentation strategy is > absolutely brilliant, honest, simple but catchy. > Thats what our customers want. Whoever coined it, > is right on. I think this is just the beginning of > what can be achieved through producers sharing info > and working together. > > Tell me, what are the best varieties of coconut > trees. I see you mentioned the Laguna Tall variety. > I read somewhere that the hybrid trees actually have > a slightly higher lauric acid content. Not that I > think that is something to strive for in choosing an > oil. One of the reasons I ask is that I saw a > Philippine producer advertising that they definitely > do not use any hybrid trees. However, they did not > state why and I am curious. > > I believe they use alot of hybrids in Thailand. I > don't know what they have in India. Mr. K. S. Rao > did say that they have nice Mallabar coconut trees > over there. Maybe he would tell us more about them. > It would seem to me that the coconut oil would > taste different depending on the variety of the > coconut tree, where's its grown, how, etc. > > I am still perplexed on this Iodine Value thing as > well. When I looked at Selina's site, I noticed > that the IV was also in the 4 range. I have come > across this in Indonesian oil too. Yet I thought > the IV for coconut was 7.5 - 9 ? Why the low value? > Does anybody know? > > Lil > > > > > > melly banagale <@...> wrote: > Lil > > A lot of manhours is used to make very good coconut > oil. It would therefore be very expensive. > > The procedure my husband uses consumes 150 laguna > tall > coconut variety nuts and only get 1 to 2 liters. No > coconut water added so that means lesser coconut > milk > but then lesser moisture too. It is indeed > excellent > oil. More for personal use coz it is too expensive > to > sell though some people do not mind the high price > due > to the quality of the oil. > > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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