Re: Digest Number 1598

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I am a lurker. The following message about at trip to the dentist and

filling doing her in triggered a thought.

A filling says it was most likely an AMALGAM filling. Amalgam is Mercury.

Mercury messes with the immune system.

P and PA are the immune system gone wacky. How many of you sufferers have

amalgam fillings or root canals?

My son who has PA really bad was exposed to Mercury from breathing the dust

from a few thousand crushed florescent bulbs.

His first flare was two weeks later. Is there a connection?

That was three years ago. MTX for a year then regicide for a year has not

stopped the progression.

Does anyone have any information on this connection.

Message: 6

Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 17:45:02 -0000

From: " works4now2000 " <dbeamon@...>

Subject: Re: Mouth Sores

Thanks for all the help with this. I finally found some Zilactin and

it helps some. I take my folic acid every day but the trip to the

dentist for a filling that turned into a cap really did me in. Also,

I have TMJ and last night I was up with my mouth pain again because

the jaw was tight and it felt like every tooth on the left side was

throbbing. Atleast the ulcers are starting to heal. I used some

moist heat for a few minutes to help relax my jaw muscles and it felt

good till I stopped. I go back to the dentist in a couple of weeks

for the permanent crown. It should be better after that. Cassie

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There is a man by the name of Bernard Windham that is probably the foremost

online authority on mercury intoxication. Do a search on his name and you

will find everything you could want to know about mercury on his pages. I

came across mention of the possible link between auto-immune diseases and

chronic exposure to mercury and studied up on it and it looks to me to be a

definate possibility.

I have a similar situation to that of your son in that I had always busted

flourescent lamps when discarding them not knowing the dangers of mercury

especially fully vaporized mercury as in flourescent tubes. I've also broken

2 mercury thermometers in the house and never decontaminated the area

properly and even heated some in a spoon over the kitchen stove playing with

it!!!. I replaced neon lighting for several years and undoubtedly was

exposed to high concentrations there as well. Had to take an extra round of

immunizations when I started school due to lost paperwork so double whammy on

thimerosal exposure. Plus the big one, several mercury tooth fillings. I

dont know if mercury is the cause of psoriasis or not but it certainly doesnt

improve it. If I could get these mercury fillings out today I would. It is

astonishing to me that we harp and rant about the toxicity of tobacco and

grow to be 30 years old and still so ignorant about mercury as to heat it on

the stove. I'm a studious guy but I had no idea how toxic that stuff is.

There is a guy named Yoshiaki Okimura (sp?) that discovered cilantro acts to

soluablize mercury and can help to eliminate it from the body but the

chemistry from the cilantro is not stable in the body so it can serve to

redistribute some of the mercury without removing it from the body so it may

not be the best choice for treatment but might be valuable in testing before

partaking more expensive tests and treatment. I tried eating cilantro and

after several meals with it over a week I developed ringing ears and tremors

which is strongly suggestive of mercury intoxication. This trial of cilantro

was in the spring of 02 and I have only a minor, transient artritic pain now

versus near total disability, both knees and both shoulders, this same time

last year. I cant say that the cilantro was responsible for the improvement

but it is worth a try. If you do try it dont eat more than a teaspoon of

chopped cilantro a week until you see how you are gonna react to it also

fresh garlic may help to stabilize it. I have seen more elaborate details

Orin

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That's very interesting Orin -- Last year there was story in the

newspaper about a dentist in my city (Vancouver BC) who was found

dead in his apartment. Apparently he had been heating some mercury

at home and died from the fumes. The whole apartment building with

all the tenants had to be completely vacated for weeks and the

building underwent an extensive decontamination process. The story

was in the newspapers and on tv for weeks. I think you're very lucky

you didn't die! Maybe the dentist was heating much larger

quantities...

I have broken several thermometers in my life and have only ever

cleaned up the mess with paper towels & water, washing my hands

after. Is there anything else one should do?

Also, I had most of my mercury fillings removed last year and have

since had a worsening of my symptoms. Perhaps the removal process

released some of the toxicity. Or it could be just a coincidence...

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Moderator 2 cents: There are now enviro safe thermometers. They have non toxic

fillings and work great except when dropped on concrete floors, oops. PatB

> There is a man by the name of Bernard Windham that is probably the

foremost

> online authority on mercury intoxication. Do a search on his name

and you

> will find everything you could want to know about mercury on his

pages. I

> came across mention of the possible link between auto-immune

diseases and

> chronic exposure to mercury and studied up on it and it looks to me

to be a

> definate possibility.

> I have a similar situation to that of your son in that I had always

busted

> flourescent lamps when discarding them not knowing the dangers of

mercury

> especially fully vaporized mercury as in flourescent tubes. I've

also broken

> 2 mercury thermometers in the house and never decontaminated the

area

> properly and even heated some in a spoon over the kitchen stove

playing with

> it!!!. I replaced neon lighting for several years and undoubtedly

was

> exposed to high concentrations there as well. Had to take an extra

round of

> immunizations when I started school due to lost paperwork so double

whammy on

> thimerosal exposure. Plus the big one, several mercury tooth

fillings. I

> dont know if mercury is the cause of psoriasis or not but it

certainly doesnt

> improve it. If I could get these mercury fillings out today I

would. It is

> astonishing to me that we harp and rant about the toxicity of

tobacco and

> grow to be 30 years old and still so ignorant about mercury as to

heat it on

> the stove. I'm a studious guy but I had no idea how toxic that

stuff is.

> There is a guy named Yoshiaki Okimura (sp?) that discovered

cilantro acts to

> soluablize mercury and can help to eliminate it from the body but

the

> chemistry from the cilantro is not stable in the body so it can

serve to

> redistribute some of the mercury without removing it from the body

so it may

> not be the best choice for treatment but might be valuable in

testing before

> partaking more expensive tests and treatment. I tried eating

cilantro and

> after several meals with it over a week I developed ringing ears

and tremors

> which is strongly suggestive of mercury intoxication. This trial

of cilantro

> was in the spring of 02 and I have only a minor, transient artritic

pain now

> versus near total disability, both knees and both shoulders, this

same time

> last year. I cant say that the cilantro was responsible for the

improvement

> but it is worth a try. If you do try it dont eat more than a

teaspoon of

> chopped cilantro a week until you see how you are gonna react to it

also

> fresh garlic may help to stabilize it. I have seen more elaborate

details

> Orin

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In a message dated 12/18/2002 7:51:05 AM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

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> What part of NY are you in? We are about 30 minutes outside of Buffalo.

>

> , mom to 5 1/2, pneumo def, allegies, Preston 2 1/2

>

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In a message dated 9/10/2004 9:21:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

writes:

Hi: Thanks for replying. What kind of Magnesium? I give Mag glycinate

and Malate but only about 300mg. Is the B6 that you give included in

the b100 or is it separate? Tremors and jerks gone? GREAT!! that's

what I want.

Thanks

Shirley

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>>> He need Mg in LIQUID form, tabs and caps do not work for him. He gets

about 200 mg four times a day on an empty stomach.

He get B-100 complex PLUS B6 100 mg three times a day

mjh

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Wilf,

The fluid in the syringe for TnPTX trick I first heard from a US Army

Ranger, seems it's been in their decompression setup for a while,

though with NS, not water, seems to me saline would be more common,

but a few ml's of whatever sterile fluid in the pleural space won't

kill anyone (LR, D5W, colloids?) You bring up another interesting

issue though. How many people here are opting to use glass syringes

in their remote/austere setting practice? Though they require more

care and are more succeptable to breakage they have the major

advantage of being reuseable and sterilizable (sp? even a word?) A

few years back on either the lightfighter or assaultweb (dotnets)

forum there was a thread about this, with a few people in the know

(believe Brown was one of them) stating that they do just that

for extended scenerios away from major hospital systems. I probably

wouldn't bother in a place like Iraq where the US military has a large

medical infrastructure set up in many areas, but on an oil rig where

you can probably pack your kit securely and have access to an

autoclave I could see this being much more reliable and maybe even

economical in the long run. Here in NYC it would be a waste, I can go

get syringes at any ED all day any day. Anyone?

-bill

Bill NREMT-B

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