Guest guest Posted March 31, 2002 Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 Basicly, you should be able to eat anything that does not have oil and fat. You don't want to eat anything that you are allergic to, as well, high allergen foods include wheat, corn, peanuts, strawberries, etc., your body will tell you if you are allergic. BUT by avoiding these things you are not triggering the flow of bile that is so important to cleansing the liver and just contributes to the formation of more stones, so that is why so many decide to either have their gall bladders removed, or to do the flush (like myself) or both. As time goes on, you will find that eating just about anything triggers trouble as your bile ducts and gall bladder get more and more congested. If you aren't ready to do the full flush, you may want to at least keep the liver moving bile in the morning first thing, by drinking a cup of chamomile tea with juice of 1/2 to 1 lemon and a tablespoon of flax seed oil, then wait at least 20 minutes before eating. This may trigger a little bit of discomfort, but shouldn't cause as much as you are describing. This will at least keep the bile moving a bit at a time when you are up and about. Doing this daily will slowly clean a little bit from your gall bladder, but the flush is the " real deal " . I'm sure you'll get a lot of help on this list. I did :-) L. Meydrech, CN " A cheerful heart is good medicine... " Prov. 17:22a http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes http://nutritionist.tripod.com ~ Journey to Health I've been here reading for about 15 months now. I came down with gallstone in December of 2000. I purchased and ate about 1 kilo of cooked shrimp and a bottle of wine. Early that next morning I woke up with the worst pain I have ever felt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2002 Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 Thank you for the wonderful information. What do you all think about using " Actigall " to dissolve them? I was reading about that on Webmd.com last night, and there is also the thing where they use ultrasound to pulverize the stones. Is that any good? ----- Original Message ----- From: L. Meydrech gallstones Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 3:04 PM Subject: Re: New sufferer Basicly, you should be able to eat anything that does not have oil and fat. You don't want to eat anything that you are allergic to, as well, high allergen foods include wheat, corn, peanuts, strawberries, etc., Life is like a doughnut Either you are in the dough or you are in the hole! To get out of the hole click below http://www.prepaidlegal.com/go/cgb http://card.netscape.com/douneedemploy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2002 Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 Allo, To which flush are you referring ? I've seen reports here from people who said they flushed, and then became extremely ill They then had to go to the emergency room where they assumed room temperature. ----- Original Message ----- From: L. Meydrech gallstones Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 3:04 PM Subject: Re: New sufferer Basicly, you should be able to eat anything that does not have oil and fat. You don't want to eat anything that you are allergic to, as well, high allergen foods include wheat, corn, peanuts, strawberries, etc., your body will tell you if you are allergic. BUT by avoiding these things you are not triggering the flow of bile that is so important to cleansing the liver and just contributes to the formation of more stones, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 I did the one that is like Hulda s, have known about the flush for 15+ years, and add different things I learn, it's at my web site in the link in my signature lines that says " gallbladder " at the end. Have you had an ultrasound to see how large your stones are?? L. Meydrech, CN http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes http://nutritionist.tripod.com ~ Journey to Health & Auctions " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a ----- Original Message ----- From: Gault gallstones Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 5:49 PM Subject: Re: New sufferer Allo, To which flush are you referring ? I've seen reports here from people who said they flushed, and then became extremely ill They then had to go to the emergency room where they assumed room temperature. ----- Original Message ----- From: L. Meydrech gallstones Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 3:04 PM Subject: Re: New sufferer Basicly, you should be able to eat anything that does not have oil and fat. You don't want to eat anything that you are allergic to, as well, high allergen foods include wheat, corn, peanuts, strawberries, etc., your body will tell you if you are allergic. BUT by avoiding these things you are not triggering the flow of bile that is so important to cleansing the liver and just contributes to the formation of more stones, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 Hi , Maybe I can answer a few questions for you. First of all, have you tried a liver/gallbladder cleanse? How many? What does your ultrasound show? How many stones? What sizes are they? It's hard to advise any kind of information without knowing more about what your particular condition is. Actigall ; This is a medication that is only helpful in reducing cholesterol stones over several months to up to a year. It is an expensive medication and stones will return later if you are not on a strict diet, thinning and conditioning your bile to also avoid futher formation of stones. Calcium (hard) stones are not effected by Actigall. Diarrhea may accompany the medication. Lithotripsy ; This is an ultrasonic sound wave stone crushing method that is very successful for kidney stones and is now sometimes being offered for gallstones. Candidates for the method would be people with less than 4 stones in their gb, no stones larger than 2 cm, and cholesterol based stones. Calcium stones once again are not effected by the shock wave treatment. It only takes around one hour to break up the stones, and Actigall is recommended afterwards to further desolve the small pieces to help them exit through the cystic duct. A good flush would help get those smaller pieces out faster than Actigall. The combination of flushing and crushing would be great but the general medical field does not consider flushing a 'viable' means of gallstone removal. Also, for Lithotrisy, you need to know what kind of stones you have, the number and sizes, to be a candidate. Insurance may not cover the $5,000 procedure. You'd have to ask your insurance provider if Lithotripsy is even covered. Since, stones return in 50% of the cases over 1 year, insurance may not consider it a cost effect way to treat gallstones. Like putting a bandaide on the problem only to have you return every year to get the treatment. Hope this helps in some way. Knowing your condition would help those of us in this group to be able to offer more accurate information that could help you improve your health. Good luck. Be Healthy and Happy. Barry. > Thank you for the wonderful information. > > What do you all think about using " Actigall " to dissolve them? I was reading about that on Webmd.com last night, and there is also the thing where they use ultrasound to pulverize the stones. Is that any good? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: L. Meydrech > gallstones@y... > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 3:04 PM > Subject: Re: New sufferer > > > Basicly, you should be able to eat anything that does not have oil and > fat. You don't want to eat anything that you are allergic to, as well, > high allergen foods include wheat, corn, peanuts, strawberries, etc., > > Life is like a doughnut > Either you are in the dough > or you are in the hole! > To get out of the hole click below > > http://www.prepaidlegal.com/go/cgb > > http://card.netscape.com/douneedemploy > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 Aren't kidney stones calcium-based stones? I read this somewhere. If sound waves work on kidney stones, shouldn't it work on a calcium stone in the gallbladder as well? Just wondering, liz " barry91162 " <barry91162@...> wrote: >Lithotripsy ; This is an ultrasonic sound wave stone crushing method >that is very successful for kidney stones and is now sometimes being >offered for gallstones. Candidates for the method would be people >with less than 4 stones in their gb, no stones larger than 2 cm, and >cholesterol based stones. Calcium stones once again are not effected >by the shock wave treatment. It only takes around one hour to break >up the stones, and Actigall is recommended afterwards to further >desolve the small pieces to help them exit through the cystic duct. __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2002 Report Share Posted April 2, 2002 Liz, I'm not sure if kidney stones are calcium based. Further research should easily answer that question. Nevertheless, if kidney stones do have calcium it would be of another type of consistancy than what a calcium gallstone is made of and also in the manner that it has formed. For this reason, the calcium gallstone will only bounce around in the gallbladder during shock wave treatment and the kidney stone (if it is calcium based as you say) would be of a softer form of consistancy and could break up inside the kidney organ easier. Also it would depend on what other ingredients are in the makeup of a kidney stone. This is also the reason that Lithotripsy is used for kidney stones but is not always successful for gallstones, even if they both have some form of calcium in them. Hope this makes sense. Just a thought. Barry. > > >Lithotripsy ; This is an ultrasonic sound wave stone crushing method > >that is very successful for kidney stones and is now sometimes being > >offered for gallstones. Candidates for the method would be people > >with less than 4 stones in their gb, no stones larger than 2 cm, and > >cholesterol based stones. Calcium stones once again are not effected > >by the shock wave treatment. It only takes around one hour to break > >up the stones, and Actigall is recommended afterwards to further > >desolve the small pieces to help them exit through the cystic duct. > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Andy, Welcome to the group. Only a very select few qualify for admittance to our little world :-). > > > My questions are > Does this seem like an appropriate cause of treatment? If you've read the recent posts, you will see that there is a LOT of sentiment AGAINST botox. From what you said, your consultant seems to favor dilation over surgery. You might ask why. There are advocates of both positions here. > What can i expect over the coming years (is this a progressive > disease)? It is a progressive disease. I was told that I would eventually have to have a tube inserted in my throat. But the treatments provide significant improvement for most people for several decades. > Have people found that certain foods/liquids or changes in lifestyle > have helped the symptoms? There are certain foods that are difficult to eat (for me, fibrous things like beef, broccoli, oranges, and potatoes), and many people blame certain foods for causing chest pains (we usually call them 'spasms'). I also have trouble drinking beer. As with just about any disease, stress makes the symptoms worse. I don't know if anyone here has tried meditation or bio-feedback to lessen the sympoms. > How major are the surgery options that are avaiable? The surgery (Heller myotomy) isn't all that bad, especially if your surgeon is trained in laparoscopic techniques. It's a procedure that has been in use for almost a century, and the risks are low. The pain was much less than I expected. Typically, people are in the hospital for 2 days. The time until resumption of nornal eating (at least as normal as it will ever be) varies from a few days to a few weeks. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Hi Andy, Welcome.I was diagnosed in 1988 with " A " .I have never had botox so I can't comment much on it.I have had ballon dilations which only helped a short time.I just learned to deal with it until last year when I started having problems with liquids.I had Heller's myotomy done in dec 04.No better after that I had a dilation done 3wks after surgery. Still no improvement.So April 26th I am sceduled for esophagectomy.Please don't let my story scare you but I just want to stress to other " A " suffers not to wait to long for treatment like I did.Due to my own ignorance. Thinking surgery was the last resort for this condition my " E " is so enlarged that the myotomy didn't work.I have learned so much from this and wish I would have known about it yrs ago.You will see that it is full of caring people that know what you are dealing with.My best excuse for leaving table is all the water I drink to get my food down. Sherry from Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Sherry: Thanks for your articulate post this evening. Your story helps me to know that I am on the right course getting the treatment earlier in the process. I saw a specialist at Cedars today and am meeting with a surgeon in two weeks. The dr said I am early in the progression -- so I will take your advice! Thanks again Peggy > > Hi Andy, > Welcome.I was diagnosed in 1988 with " A " .I have never had botox so I > can't comment much on it.I have had ballon dilations which only helped > a short time.I just learned to deal with it until last year when I > started having problems with liquids.I had Heller's myotomy done in dec > 04.No better after that I had a dilation done 3wks after surgery. Still > no improvement.So April 26th I am sceduled for esophagectomy.Please > don't let my story scare you but I just want to stress to other " A " > suffers not to wait to long for treatment like I did.Due to my own > ignorance. Thinking surgery was the last resort for this condition > my " E " is so enlarged that the myotomy didn't work.I have learned so > much from this and wish I would have known about it yrs ago.You will > see that it is full of caring people that know what you are dealing > with.My best excuse for leaving table is all the water I drink to get > my food down. > Sherry from Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Hi Andy, Welcome to the group. I don't know if you can download these attachments - I hope so - they will give you some of the information you need. Good wishes Joan New Sufferer > > > Hi all > > Hope someone here might be able to help; My name is Andy and i am a > 27 year old male from the UK and have recently been diagnosed with > Achalasia. I have had endless tests over the past year (several of > which seemed to be exactly the same???); I have also recently had > Botox injections into the muscle (that did not go well as i ended up > spending 3 nights in hospital with chest pains!) this did not help > the situation at all. I have now lost 60lbs in the last 6 months > (though this was not all bad) and am a little concerned to say the > least. My consultant does not really appear to know a great deal > about the problem but has mentioned that the next step would be a > balloon dilation then followed by open chest surgery if that failed. > > My questions are > Does this seem like an appropriate cause of treatment? > What can i expect over the coming years (is this a progressive > disease)? > Have people found that certain foods/liquids or changes in lifestyle > have helped the symptoms? > How major are the surgery options that are avaiable? > > Any help that anyone out there could provide would be very much > appreciated. Also has anyone come up with any good excuses for > having to repeatedly leave the table when attempting to eat out? > > Thanks in Advance > Andy > Gloucestershire > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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