re: success stories down the road...

[Guest guest]

barry91162@... writes:

> I think about that when reading some of the

> many 'success' stories that people have written the next day after a

> flush. How about later? In most cases, if a stone is still there, and

> after the euphoric feeling is gone, and the lubricating effects of

> the oil has left the body, the stone will again cause colic.

Hi Barry and all

I'm back from a REALLY nice weekend away and I have a ton of mail in my

inbox. I look forward to catching up, bit by bit.

I wanted to comment on this post tonight and share my " down the road "

experience. I started flushing back in October when I was diagnosed with

gallstones after a couple of attacks that were bad enough to get me

concerned. The ultrasound showed " multiple gallstones " but not specific

number and when I look at it I can't really tell if I'm looking at clumps of

gallstones or 3 large ones.

To date I have done about a dozen flushes, varying protocols and varying

results. I have had a few minor attacks along the way, but nothing to the

extent of what drove me to the ER or the doctor. (in both cases the pain

subsided for me by the time they finished taking my vitals - I was very

lucky). I'd say that I've had one about three this year - all of

increasingly mild intensity.

I have not made significant changes to my dietary habits (nobody lecture me

on that one - I already know anything that you might say! <grin>), so I do

credit the decreasing frequency and intensity of the attacks to the flushing.

There are times when I have consumed meals fairly high in fat content and

not had any repercussions from it. I have, in fact, even recreated the

meal that sent me to the ER that one time (I know - that's an insane thing to

do), and I did not have any negative effects from it.

So in my case, I would say that the long term effect of the flushing is very

positive. I've never really experienced that " euphoria " that you describe,

EXCEPT after the one time I did the flush in the midst of an attack. The

following day I did have a giddy euphoric, almost invincible, feeling.

Aside from that, I've felt increasingly healthier as time has gone by and I

feel like I've gotten my life back to normal.

yes, I do know that in regard to the frequency, intensity and length of

attacks, I'm probably in the minority. But my experience still should count

for somethign out here, eh?

Just wanted to respond to your inquiry!

in health,

rachel~

" Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right " - Henry Ford

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/31/02 10:46:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,

barry91162@... writes:

> You are one of the lucky ones who doesn't have

> the terrible colic that a stone can produce. Unfortunelty, many of us

> are on a harder (no pun intended) road in this gallstone elimination

> process.

>

Yes, I do realize that and think that I acknowledged it in my response. I do

know that I'm one of the lucky ones, but it doesn't mean it's been a cakewalk

for me, either and I'm sure I'm not the only one who hasn't had hours of

agony but still have the need to deal with the problem. And I would like to

think that my input is worth something, even though I'm not in the majority.

Wishing all of you with the dreadful situations the best of luck in your

continued search for healing and improved health,

rachel~

" Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right " - Henry Ford

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for responding. You are one of the lucky ones who doesn't have

the terrible colic that a stone can produce. Unfortunelty, many of us

are on a harder (no pun intended) road in this gallstone elimination

process.

I entered this alternative method 5 months ago to get rid of the pain

and have the choice to eat whatever I wanted to. I've learned that

dieting is the key to everything. Whether you keep your stones and

cleanse for the rest of your life, control the production of new

stones, or remove your gallbladder, dieting must be a new lifestyle

for those of us on the road to better health.

Even though I have changed my diet, and the 8 cleanses have cleared

my liver and gallbladder of sludge, grainy sandy stuff, globs of

liver stones, etc, I still have the original problem inside of me

that causes colic 2 to 3 times a week. In fact, my diet has even

become more sensitive since I have reconditioned my diet to live

healthier. The colic is more sensitive now and I have to watch almost

everything I eat.

So, all in all, I'm happy with the cleansing results of cleaning my

liver and making my system work better but the fact remains that my

gallbladder is not eliminating the stone with the methods I am

trying. I have adjusted the methods to get stronger contractions,

etc.

All I was stating was that some of the stories are of the same

initial success that I had on my first few flushes. The problem is

still there. Also, from what I have read, a lot of people in this

group are still 'carrying around the problem stone'. Good luck to all

of us and may we find the way to health and happiness with our

individual situations.

Barry.

> barry91162@y... writes:

> > I think about that when reading some of the

> > many 'success' stories that people have written the next day

after a

> > flush. How about later? In most cases, if a stone is still there,

and

> > after the euphoric feeling is gone, and the lubricating effects

of

> > the oil has left the body, the stone will again cause colic.

>

> Hi Barry and all

> I'm back from a REALLY nice weekend away and I have a ton of mail

in my

> inbox. I look forward to catching up, bit by bit.

>

> I wanted to comment on this post tonight and share my " down the

road "

> experience. I started flushing back in October when I was

diagnosed with

> gallstones after a couple of attacks that were bad enough to get me

> concerned. The ultrasound showed " multiple gallstones " but not

specific

> number and when I look at it I can't really tell if I'm looking at

clumps of

> gallstones or 3 large ones.

>

> To date I have done about a dozen flushes, varying protocols and

varying

> results. I have had a few minor attacks along the way, but nothing

to the

> extent of what drove me to the ER or the doctor. (in both cases

the pain

> subsided for me by the time they finished taking my vitals - I was

very

> lucky). I'd say that I've had one about three this year - all of

> increasingly mild intensity.

>

> I have not made significant changes to my dietary habits (nobody

lecture me

> on that one - I already know anything that you might say! <grin>),

so I do

> credit the decreasing frequency and intensity of the attacks to the

flushing.

> There are times when I have consumed meals fairly high in fat

content and

> not had any repercussions from it. I have, in fact, even

recreated the

> meal that sent me to the ER that one time (I know - that's an

insane thing to

> do), and I did not have any negative effects from it.

>

> So in my case, I would say that the long term effect of the

flushing is very

> positive. I've never really experienced that " euphoria " that you

describe,

> EXCEPT after the one time I did the flush in the midst of an

attack. The

> following day I did have a giddy euphoric, almost invincible,

feeling.

> Aside from that, I've felt increasingly healthier as time has gone

by and I

> feel like I've gotten my life back to normal.

>

> yes, I do know that in regard to the frequency, intensity and

length of

> attacks, I'm probably in the minority. But my experience still

should count

> for somethign out here, eh?

>

> Just wanted to respond to your inquiry!

>

> in health,

> rachel~

> " Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right " -

Henry Ford

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

You know that your ideas and input is very well admired and welcome

in this group. You are very helpful and understanding. Your input is

definitely always needed and appriciated. You are one of the most

active and informative members in this group and in my opinion, the

group would really suffer without your knowledge.

Also, you probably are in the majority. Most people in here are

probably not going through the terrible colic pains as some of the

others of us are. We all have a need to deal with the problem or

there wouldn't be a cleanse group. I truely hope that you find your

way to healthy living and more importantly that you are happy as

well.

In Health and Happiness,

Barry.

> In a message dated 3/31/02 10:46:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> barry91162@y... writes:

>

>

> > You are one of the lucky ones who doesn't have

> > the terrible colic that a stone can produce. Unfortunelty, many

of us

> > are on a harder (no pun intended) road in this gallstone

elimination

> > process.

> >

>

> Yes, I do realize that and think that I acknowledged it in my

response. I do

> know that I'm one of the lucky ones, but it doesn't mean it's been

a cakewalk

> for me, either and I'm sure I'm not the only one who hasn't had

hours of

> agony but still have the need to deal with the problem. And I

would like to

> think that my input is worth something, even though I'm not in the

majority.

>

> Wishing all of you with the dreadful situations the best of luck in

your

> continued search for healing and improved health,

> rachel~

> " Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right " -

Henry Ford

>

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