Re: Thanks &

[Guest guest]

wannaflush@... writes:

> for your replies regarding back problems. They give me hope that I

> won't have to be living at the chiropractor anymore. Of course, I

> want that to happen after my first flush! LOL But realize it may

> take several. I believe Dr. says you need to pass 2000 stones

> but I think I'll flush every 2 weeks till I'm not getting any or very

> few. Thanks again---it really gives me hope!!!

>

Well, I'll hope along with you that it happens after your first flush. Hey -

sometimes it does - you could be one of those !

Sounds like a good plan to continue flushing until the results are minimal.

I think (and someone will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong) that the body

naturally eliminates smaller stones on a regular basis, but we just don't

usually see them because they are in the midst of the stool. So there's no

need to wait until there are NO results, I don't think, because it's possible

that there always will be. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

Keep us posted on your progress, okay???

in health,

rachel~

" Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right " - Henry Ford

[Guest guest]

Great, a topic we can once again discuss...

Are liver stones (globs) always being produced and keep coming out?

It would be in my opinion (only one) that this statement is true.

Whereas it would depend totally on the individuals body to process

bile in different ways, this liver process is a normal bodily

function. Bile is always produced by the liver and will exit the body

in globs of what we call stones during a flush. Normally, these

softer balls of glob will be eliminated through regular bodily

digestive function anyway. The reason that what we see is different

in a flush than what you see in a stool is obvious. Fasting and

flushing with oil will mix with the bile in the internal labratory of

the human body and exit in the form of balls (Some would argue this

fact that bile mixed with oil inside the body has nothing to do with

the form it exits as but I have never seen scientific proof of that

because the labratory of the human body can not in most cases be

duplicated). Globs of bile will normally exit in the more liquid form

that would then form the harder form of stool in the colon. This is

not to disclaim the results of what we call stones in a flush but it

is meant to help further the understanding of the processing of the

human body while flushing and while not flushing.

This would help to explain why we are getting hundreds of bile globs

(stones) out during each flush.

This would explain why someone cannot hold thousands upon thousands

of stones within their liver and gallbladder throughout their

lifetimes.

This would explain why someone has flushed 133 times over 4 1/2 years

and is wondering where the bottom of the barrel is.

The human body is a miraculous tool in it's own creation and is meant

to perform the function that flushing will do. Flushing is a more

rapid approach at removing stagnant bile and toxins that is too slow

to exit on it's own and has resulted in digestive problems.

Flushing periodically will help cleanse the body of stagnant toxins

but should not be a replacement of the bodies natural process for

extended periods of time.

Flushing can become an addictive process that would only speed up and

in some cases hunder what the body could already do if left alone and

if dieting is correct.

Flushing can not only clean out stagnant liver globs but can also

clean out the gallbladder of toxins, stagnant bile, and hard stones

that form within.

Flushers should be aware and know the difference between gallstones

and globs of liver bile that is being eliminated during a flush.

Just some thoughts.

Others are coming too I hope. :-)

My opinion is not meant to cause any debates or arguements of any

kind, it is only ones opinion based on personal knowledge and none of

which is based on medical education besides personal research.

Barry.

> wannaflush@y... writes:

> > for your replies regarding back problems. They give me hope that

I

> > won't have to be living at the chiropractor anymore. Of course,

I

> > want that to happen after my first flush! LOL But realize it

may

> > take several. I believe Dr. says you need to pass 2000

stones

> > but I think I'll flush every 2 weeks till I'm not getting any or

very

> > few. Thanks again---it really gives me hope!!!

> >

>

> Well, I'll hope along with you that it happens after your first

flush. Hey -

> sometimes it does - you could be one of those !

>

> Sounds like a good plan to continue flushing until the results are

minimal.

> I think (and someone will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong) that

the body

> naturally eliminates smaller stones on a regular basis, but we just

don't

> usually see them because they are in the midst of the stool. So

there's no

> need to wait until there are NO results, I don't think, because

it's possible

> that there always will be. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

>

> Keep us posted on your progress, okay???

>

> in health,

> rachel~

> " Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right " -

Henry Ford

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>Flushers should be aware and know the

>difference between gallstones and globs

>of liver bile that is being eliminated

>during a flush.

So, if I understand all of that correctly, the

hundreds of little yellow bits, they kind of

had the consistency and look of hard boiled

egg yolk when crumbled between my fingers, and

were scattered all through the water in the

toilet, would have just formed when the oil

I drank at 10 pm hit the bile, and the darker

green ones would have been older things in the

liver ducts or gall bladder? Where did your " personal

research " lead you that explained this?? Very curious,

not challenging you, thanks!!

L. Meydrech, CN

http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes

http://nutritionist.tripod.com ~ Journey to Health & Auctions

" A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a

[Guest guest]

,

Only through your own personal research and experience can you be

aware of the differences of your own eliminations.

You need to only understand that there are gallstones and there are

also softer liver globs (things we call stones).

What you are seeing and experiencing needs to be interpreted only by

your own personal judgemment based on knowledge and experience.

You tell me what it is? I can't see it. haha

My personal conclusions are for myself and not for debate. I have

eliminated around 1 dozen small black pigment stones that I know was

from my gallbladder. I have eliminated 1 small crusty (4mm) tan stone

that crushed like hard calcium which I also assume was from my

gallbladder. I have eliminated a lot of small grainy sandy stuff that

I feel was in the bottom of my gallbladder and the ducts. Can't

neccessarily prove where it came from. I have eliminated tons of

sludgy stuff that I feel came from my liver and some maybe from my

gallbladder. I have also eliminated over 2,000 globs of soft

yellowish-green, tan formations (I don't really call these stones

like everyone else does) that cut like butter and are greenish and

soft throughout. I feel these have come from my liver mainly and not

neccessarily my gallbladder. My conclusion is that these globs are a

combination of the ingredience of bile from the liver mixed with oil,

created in the flush by the internal lab of the human body. The

fasting increases the absorbtion of water from the bile adding to the

rapid processing of the combination within the digestive tract and

colon areas. I personally don't believe these (sometimes 2 cm in size)

softer green liver globs were formed and waiting in the liver for my

flush.

I believe that there is a major difference between a hard gallstone

and a liver glob of bile that we call 'stones'.

The 1 cm hard gallstone that I have colic from is still inside my

gallbladder.

I'm not saying that what you are getting out is not 'stones'. They

probably are. But, everyone should know and understand the different

types of things coming out during a flush.

This is my personal deductions. You will have to experiment and reach

your own conclusions about your body and health on your own based on

your results, knowledge, and experience. Good luck.

Be Healthy and Happy.

Barry.

--- In gallstones@y..., " L. Meydrech " <claudiameydrech@c...>

wrote:

> >Flushers should be aware and know the

> >difference between gallstones and globs

> >of liver bile that is being eliminated

> >during a flush.

>

> So, if I understand all of that correctly, the

> hundreds of little yellow bits, they kind of

> had the consistency and look of hard boiled

> egg yolk when crumbled between my fingers, and

> were scattered all through the water in the

> toilet, would have just formed when the oil

> I drank at 10 pm hit the bile, and the darker

> green ones would have been older things in the

> liver ducts or gall bladder? Where did your " personal

> research " lead you that explained this?? Very curious,

> not challenging you, thanks!!

>

> L. Meydrech, CN

> http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes

> http://nutritionist.tripod.com ~ Journey to Health & Auctions

> " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your explanation...yes, I know, I believe that most of what

we pass is cholesterol, and that true stones would be hard w/ calcium.

I guess I thought you were saying that the little yellow bits I was seeing

were just a result of the oil I took at 10 pm combining with bile, and

making them right then and there. I don't completely fast, by the

way, not enough to throw the body into a fasting state. Last day

I take liquid protein mix for breakfast and lunch, would be hypoglycemic

if I didn't. I guess the bottom line is in how much

better we feel when we do this. We are cleaning out old, stale bile,

sediment and cholesterol from our livers, we are cleaning out our colons

& small intestine as well, and the joints feel great from the oil for a while

if we don't keep on taking in oil in some way after the cleanse.

Take care, claudia :-)

,

Only through your own personal research and experience can you be

aware of the differences of your own eliminations.