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>Flushers should be aware and know the difference between gallstones

>and globs of liver bile that is being eliminated during a flush.

>

>Just some thoughts.

>Others are coming too I hope. :-)

>

>My opinion is not meant to cause any debates or arguements of any

>kind, it is only ones opinion based on personal knowledge and none of

>which is based on medical education besides personal research.

>

>Barry.

Barry, and all,

Below, I'm reposting a repost Agnes made from the archives a few

weeks ago, which noone commented on then, but which seems to be

relevant.

An interesting fact is that some people pass a lot of greenies and

then stop passing them and don't get much to speak of in occasional

maintenance cleanses either (so much for the congealed olive oil

theory), while it also happens that people never see the bottom of

the barrel (if the previous report from the curezone forum about

hundreds of flushes over several years is to be believed). This could

indicate that some presumed liver stones have accumulated previously,

while others keep forming as these people continue flushing. But I

think you already said that. (I've spent too much time on the cut and

paste now to go back and check...)

-- Helge

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For 2 /12 years I have used the " flush + health " approach to managing

my gallbladder. I have sought to identify what is inside of

the " greenies " that come out without success. I have come to a

number of conclusions:

1) The " greenies " are most likely not gallstones... but may be liver

stones.

2) Gallstones may be passing, most likely on a first or second flush

and not picked up by the flushee. These stones would be most

likely " brownish " in color like those found in Dale's photo of his

flushed stones.

3) Many of those I know have received tremendous benefit from the

flush. Two individuals I gave the flush recipe to were scheduled for

operations, but flushed instead. Now almost two yaers later neither

of them have had ANY symptoms of a gb problem. Unfortunately, they

even eat whatever they want!

4) The rest of us have recieved significant benefit from the flush.

I can go 3-7 months without having any symptoms. Currently it has

baeen 2 1/2 months since my last flush and I have felt the best

ever! Even shrimp cannot get my gb to act up!

5) The focus on " large " stones is incorrect. It is the small stones

that CAN pass into the ducts that cause the majority of attacks. The

large stones are often " silent. " When one does a flush, huge amounts

of green bile (forming greenies) is expelled from the liver and gb.

The extra push of bile expells sludge and many calcium chrystals that

form the neucleus of the " stone. " This is most likely why we find

great relief after a flush. The building blocks for making the small

stones are expelled.

6) I believe that many small " stones " are expelled in the flush

process, especially the first and second flush. The flush must

strain their stools to find the little black and brown " stones. "

These are what should be analysed by a lab.

Conclusion: The flush MUST benefit the flushee in either

expelling " stones " or sludge or calcium chrystals. The results are

proof of its effectiveness. Not all with gain permanent relief, not

all will gain months of relief, but all should try the flush as it is

a simple approach to health and keeping one's gb.

ken

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