Diet and stones

[Guest guest]

I found this information at Dr. Weil's site....now I did see that he says that

the gallbladder flush is folk remedy that doesn't work but anyhow, I thought

well there are many out there who believe this to be true....Anyhow this was

also found at his site:

" If a patient can't tolerate surgery, two drugs, Actigall (ursodiol) and Chenix

(chenodiol), can help dissolve gallstones, but treatment can take months.

Another nonsurgical alternative, shock-wave lithotripsy, is experimental; it

uses sound waves to break up the stones. There is some evidence that a very

low-fat diet may prevent stone formation and also prompt stones to dissolve. If

your mother is not having painful attacks, she should improve her diet and

reduce fat intake to keep the stones quiet. If she is experiencing pain, removal

of the gallbladder is the best bet. "

I have not read nor heard anything regarding diet change dissolving them...have

you? And if this is true, why did I get them in the first place? Was it those

Oreo cookies I eat about once every few months or so? I certainly in 10 years

have had maybe a couple dozen fried foods a year....I mean that is how healthy I

eat....hmmm....somehow this whole thing is flawed with food being the cause of

them....I just don't think they have all their stones in a row on

this......ooopss....my oversight........ rapid weight loss or not eating can

also cause them, and I do have rapid weight loss when my lupus goes into a flare

and it is not because I don't eat that is when my appetite is the

largest....last time I flared I ended up 109 pounds, I was emaciated horribly.

Anyhow, I guess there are somethings we all have to look at in pursuit of health

but quite frankly my dear, I don't give a stone if I have to give up fatty foods

but please don't take my Oreo cookie. roflol

Peace

Lu

[Guest guest]

<<<<<<<

I found this information at Dr. Weil's site....now I did see that he says

that the gallbladder flush is folk remedy that doesn't work but anyhow, I

thought well there are many out there who believe this to be true....Anyhow

this was also found at his site:

>>>>>>>

This is just exactly why I lost all respect for this man's opinons, and

quite reading anything he had to say even if he is correct. He made this

statement with out any supportive documentation for that statement. If he

would do it with something so critical as gallbladder health he'll do it

else where.

Sorry,, But I just do not find a good reason to repect this man even though

a friend of mine consideres him her friend.

Regarding the disolving of stones we know that some will develop for various

reasons and then disappear in time. Take for example what happens with

pregnant women. They may develope them during the time of pregnancy and then

they may disappear in a short time afterwards. Diet???? What do they crave

while pregnant??

Dale

[Guest guest]

That is an interesting thought Dale on the pg women. I like his recipes and as

you say some of what he shares is good and all but I do know I have ran across

some questionable comments he has made as well. The one thing that had me

puzzled is that he says that the gallstones can start out as small grainy

sand......well gee....let me see.......*hmmmmm*...........isn't that grainy sand

we are seeing in our flushes? ,-)

Anyhow, yepperz, like everything, we cannot know unless we at least try it or

listen to others when there seem to be thousands out there that can give the

testimony needed for some of the folklore methods that do work! lol

Peace

Lu

----- Original Message -----

From: Dale

gallstones

Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:51 AM

Subject: Re: Diet and stones

<<<<<<<

I found this information at Dr. Weil's site....now I did see that he says

that the gallbladder flush is folk remedy that doesn't work but anyhow, I

thought well there are many out there who believe this to be true....Anyhow

this was also found at his site:

>>>>>>>

This is just exactly why I lost all respect for this man's opinons, and

quite reading anything he had to say even if he is correct. He made this

statement with out any supportive documentation for that statement. If he

would do it with something so critical as gallbladder health he'll do it

else where.

Sorry,, But I just do not find a good reason to repect this man even though

a friend of mine consideres him her friend.

Regarding the disolving of stones we know that some will develop for various

reasons and then disappear in time. Take for example what happens with

pregnant women. They may develope them during the time of pregnancy and then

they may disappear in a short time afterwards. Diet???? What do they crave

while pregnant??

Dale

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/10/02 7:23:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,

barry91162@... writes:

> . It must be in the genes.

> Stones in the genes in my case. :-)

>

I would suggest that you switch from genes to khakis.

(oh, so bad joke)

rachel~

" The greatest risk is not taking any.

[Guest guest]

Lu,

I've recently found out that no matter how good your diet is, in some

cases heretitary reasons come into play for gallstones in a lot of

people. I've never heard that dieting can desolve stones but maybe it

works for some people. Depends on the stone, bile flowing over the

stone, and the person holding the stone. Who's holding that stone?

In my case, heretitary gallstones goes back to my father, and grandpa

and grandma. My brother and I have them too. It must be in the genes.

Stones in the genes in my case. :-)

Barry.

> I found this information at Dr. Weil's site....now I did see that

he says that the gallbladder flush is folk remedy that doesn't work

but anyhow, I thought well there are many out there who believe this

to be true....Anyhow this was also found at his site:

>

> " If a patient can't tolerate surgery, two drugs, Actigall

(ursodiol) and Chenix (chenodiol), can help dissolve gallstones, but

treatment can take months. Another nonsurgical alternative, shock-

wave lithotripsy, is experimental; it uses sound waves to break up

the stones. There is some evidence that a very low-fat diet may

prevent stone formation and also prompt stones to dissolve. If your

mother is not having painful attacks, she should improve her diet and

reduce fat intake to keep the stones quiet. If she is experiencing

pain, removal of the gallbladder is the best bet. "

>

> I have not read nor heard anything regarding diet change dissolving

them...have you? And if this is true, why did I get them in the

first place? Was it those Oreo cookies I eat about once every few

months or so? I certainly in 10 years have had maybe a couple dozen

fried foods a year....I mean that is how healthy I

eat....hmmm....somehow this whole thing is flawed with food being the

cause of them....I just don't think they have all their stones in a

row on this......ooopss....my oversight........ rapid weight loss or

not eating can also cause them, and I do have rapid weight loss when

my lupus goes into a flare and it is not because I don't eat that is

when my appetite is the largest....last time I flared I ended up 109

pounds, I was emaciated horribly. Anyhow, I guess there are

somethings we all have to look at in pursuit of health but quite

frankly my dear, I don't give a stone if I have to give up fatty

foods but please don't take my Oreo cookie. roflol

> Peace

> Lu

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

this may have been answered, but Dr Cabot in her Liver Cleansing Diet

book asserts that her diet will dissolve gallbladder stones.

cheers

-----Original Message-----

From: Lulu [mailto:demi111@...]

Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2002 14:14

Gallstone

Subject: Diet and stones

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I have not read nor heard anything regarding diet change dissolving

them...have you? ...