FAQ: Why doesn't my doctor wants to talk about liver cleanse?

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FAQ

People often ask Why?

Why doesn't my doctor wants to talk about liver cleanse, about alternatives?

Doesn't he knows something about liver cleanse?

If it really works, wouldn't my doctor be the first one to know about liver

cleanse?

Answer:

This is what happens to doctors who cure their patients.

http://askwaltstollmd.com/license.html

Liver cleanse is one of the things Walt Stoll suggests.

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Why My License Was Revoked

by Walt Stoll, MD askwaltstollmd.com

http://askwaltstollmd.com/license.html

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This is such a typical example of how Medical Licensing Boards harass

physicians who offer their patients alternatives to the Allopathic

Monopoly, I thought I would enter the below for your consideration:

Why Was I Attacked?

The reason I had been targeted was not personal. I have been urging

electronic highway participants to understand what is going on with the

Allopathic Monopoly's crusade against anything they see as competition to

their ascendancy for the past 5 years.

The AMA policy, throughout the country, is to attack any licensed physician

who becomes successful in the public eye for offering any alternatives to

strictly conventional medicine. However, in recent years, they have learned

to attack the physician for trivial complaints not related to their

practice of alternatives. That way, the physician must not only defend

against the trivial complaint but prove that s/he is being targeted because

of the practice of alternatives. This greatly increases the cost of each

court appearance and time needed to prepare. Since the purpose is only to

wear down the physician until they are no longer able to resist, this new

wrinkle has been most helpful to the AMA's goal of eliminating these

advanced physicians from competition.

When I first learned how much more I was helping my patients, by offering

them some of these alternatives, I naively went directly to the local

medical society and talked to the program director about getting on the

program to try to share what I had learned. Since " a prophet is rarely

welcome in his/her own land " , I gave him a list of nationally known experts

(with a great track record of communicating these concepts) that they could

bring in to speak. They, of course contacted the AMA for information about

these physicians and were told that they were on the alternative medical

" hit list " for attack by the AMA already. Of course, that was the end of my

trying to share with my colleagues. From that time on, I started hearing,

from many sources, that " Dr Stoll was a Quack " . I later learned that this

was the word given out to the organized physicians in KY to tell anyone who

would listen.

Since I was barred from sharing with my " colleagues " , I felt my only option

was to go to the public. After all, they were the ones who would profit

from the information. Of course, this REALLY made the KMLB mad. I was, in

essence, " going over their heads " to get to the patients.

I had a regular radio program (5 minute spots, 3 times a week) on National

Public Radio at the local University of Kentucky station, for several

years. Ultimately, the manager of the station was ordered to take me off.

He refused, since the conventional physicians already had 4 times as many

spots and he believed that the information was valid. Unfortunately, he was

within less than a year of retirement (after 30 years of running the

station) and they threatened his pension. They said if he wouldn't take me

off, they would demote him to an errand boy and his retirement would be

based on that salary rather than what he had earned. He called me into his

office and, in tears, told me what they had done. He said that, at first,

they had just told him that the medical school would withdraw all of its

financial support from the station if he did not take me off. When that had

no effect, they threatened his pension. He felt he had no recourse but to

take me off. He did volunteer to testify at any hearing about this illegal

activity but only after his pension was secured and he had retired. He is

still available to do that.

In the meantime, I had been giving a regular course (16 hours/semester) at

Transylvania University, in Lexington, KY titled Stress Management Through

Wellness. This course became the most successful evening course given at

Transylvania during the several years I gave it (each semester and summer

session).

I spent at least 8 years giving presentations to local, and national, lay

and professional organizations about combining alternatives with

conventional medicine. I was featured in articles about this in the New

York Times, Newsweek and many syndicated newspaper articles. I once went

back and looked at my schedule, during those years, and couldn't imagine

how I had kept it up. In addition to keeping a full schedule of patients, I

coordinated the many other professionals at my centre AND spent at least 4

nights a week, and every weekend, giving (or taking) a conference

somewhere. I was so enthusiastic at seeing the benefits for my patients, as

well as my own personal health ( " Physician Heal Thyself " ), that I had

boundless energy.

The centre grew to the point where we had a gross of over $800,000.00 per

year (I took home $50,000 and poured any more profits back into education

and patient services). At that time I had a team of professionals, all

working together to offer the most appropriate option for each particular

patient: Chiropractic, Homeopathy, Nutritional Medicine, Chinese Medicine,

Chaplain with Masters degree in counseling, Biofeedback instructor,

Reflexologist, Aroma Therapist, Applied Kinesiologist, therapeutic massage,

Holistic Dentist, etc. All in all we could offer evaluation and treatment

in 15 different healing philosophies. My job was to integrate all of these

approaches AND to provide the Allopathic Medicine techniques which still

are the best approach for some conditions.

The average Family Practitioner has a net of 50% of the gross. We had less

than 10%. This was not because of bad management, however, it was because

one of the built in problems (from the physician's financial viewpoint) of

the holistic medical approach to these chronic health problems: Most of the

cost is up front while figuring out the causes of the problems AND teaching

the patient how to deal with them. Within 6-12 months, the patient doesn't

need the Holistic Medical Practitioner any more for those problems. They

are much less likely to need more help in the future since the same things

that helped them with those chronic problems always help prevent others.

There is NO WAY that a practitioner of this approach can make as much money

as those who only treat symptoms and run tests. The real money is in seeing

many patients for a short period of time each. Once a patient is

" established " that is exactly what happens---as anyone reading this will

attest.

When I practiced conventional medicine, I had to stop taking new patients

within 6 months of opening my practice--I was too busy. When I practiced

effective holistic medicine, I saw an average of 2.5 new patients every day

(4 days a week). The only way I could stay in practice was to keep seeing

new patients because THEY KEPT GETTING WELL!

The " Black Propaganda " by the medical profession in KY was able to " dry up "

that source and over a few years the gross dropped below $100,000. My old

patients DID keep coming back to me since we had proven, by results, that

we were NOT " Quacks " . Since the ones who had followed our recommendations

were basically healthy, they didn't need us very much and so they did not

make up enough patient flow to keep us in business.

However, those who had never seen us couldn't believe " Organized Medicine "

would not tell the public the truth---- therefore Dr Stoll MUST be a

" Quack " preying on the public.

I have had several of my true " peers " lose their licenses simply because

they had written excellent books about all this. If we were successful, we

became targets. In spite of this, I decided to write my book anyhow. As it

turned out, 18 months after leaving practice and the state to write my

book, the licensing board got up their courage to revoke my license.

Because of that action I had nothing to lose by publishing.

The Excuse the Kentucky Medical Licensing Board Finally Used to Revoke My

License

About 5 years before this action, a woman from New York State called my

office for help. By that time the harassment by the licensing board (KMLB)

had been going on for 10 years and I had had to close my big

Multidisciplinary Centre in Lexington. From a staff of 15+, I was down to

practicing out of my home with no staff. As a consequence, all phone calls

were answered by machine and I called people back when I was no longer

seeing patients. This explanation is to let you know that all return calls

were on my dime. The importance of that datum will be obvious later.

She had heard that I was having a lot of success with patients the

Allopathic Monopoly had been unable to help. By then, I was getting

patients from all over the continent, the Caribbean and as far away as

China. She had been to see at least 10 different physicians, for the same

long list of problems, over the past 15 years. No one had been able to help

her and the current recommendation by her last physician was that she seek

psychiatric help: " If the doctor can't figure it out, it MUST be the

patient's fault! "

The first time I called her back, we spent about an hour on the phone.

Mainly, this was her listing her many symptoms in great detail. I told her

that I couldn't really help her unless she got all of her old records and

came to see me in KY. Over the next few months, she called me many times,

each return call meant 15 to 30 minutes on the phone. Since she felt that

she had already spent all her money seeing all those other physicians, she

didn't want to come to KY. Although I told her I could give her the names

of physicians in NY who probably could help her as well as I could, she

still wanted to call me. My policy had always been to try to get people to

a physician close to them so they could spend their resources solving their

problem rather than on transportation.

Finally, since I had recommended to her many of the resources I have shared

on my website and in my book, over the past year, she became convinced that

she had Candida-Related Syndrome and wanted me to authorize a competent

laboratory to do a stool test for Candida. At the time the best lab for

making that diagnosis, in this country, was in Arizona. It was also the

best lab, by far, for diagnosing parasites of all kinds (of course, Candida

is just another parasite). I called the director of the lab and discussed

her case with him. He agreed to send her a stool test kit with

instructions. She paid him directly for all his services.

He sent the report back to me since I was the one who had ordered

it--standard procedure for all laboratories in the country. She had 4

(four) major parasites--including Candida. I called him again and discussed

his findings over the phone. At that time, he was making photomicrographs

of all parasites found in any specimen so there could be no doubt of any

diagnoses: he may have missed some but he could not invent a picture of

something that was not there.

I had told the New York person that there was only one lab in this country

I would send such a specimen to since the Center for Disease Control, in

Atlanta, had agreed with several studies showing that local laboratories

only found one in 50 of the parasites that were actually present in a

specimen--as compared with expert specialty labs like this one. I had

investigated several such labs and knew this one to be the best.

I then made a copy of her test results along with everything about the each

parasite and its diagnosis, symptoms and treatment, from on's

Textbook of Internal Medicine (the standard textbook for medical schools in

this country). ALL of her symptoms were explained by the findings of this lab!

I sent all that information to her along with the names, addresses, and

phone numbers, of several physicians in New York who would know how to

interpret the lab reports as well as what to do about them. Since she had

never obtained any of her medical records to show me, I advised her that

she would need them to avoid having to repeat all that had already been

done in the past.

When I had not heard from her in a couple of months (VERY unusual by that

time), I added up the actual cost of my phone charges, copying costs and

postage and sent her a bill for about $62. I made no allowance for any of

the time I had spent since I had never actually seen her.

Her response was a very indignant letter saying she would NEVER pay me that

bill because: she had taken all that I had sent her to the last physician

she had seen--the one who had had no idea what was causing her symptoms and

had recommended a psychiatrist. He scoffed at the possibility that she

could have parasites as a cause of her many symptoms (in spite of the fact

that those same symptoms were clearly described in the reprints from the

same text he probably had in medical school) although photomicrographs of

her actual parasites were attached to the reports.

He had no idea of what WAS causing her symptoms but he KNEW that it

couldn't be parasites! Rather than check with the lab in AZ, he sent

another specimen to the (CDC certified INCOMPETENT to diagnose parasites)

local lab which, of course, found nothing.

I wrote back that I thought she was foolish to not even look into whether

treating what had been found would get rid of her symptoms after she had

spent so many years looking. I also told her that I thought the physician

she had taken the results to was as incompetent to help her in this area as

the lab he used was incompetent to make these diagnoses. Finally, I told

her if she chose to continue only her allopathic approaches, in the light

of the certified lab results, that she " deserved what she got " . I even told

her that she would be wise to keep a file of all the information so, when

she had suffered for a few more years with her symptoms, she could call one

of the local physicians I had recommended and get well.

Her response to THAT was to make an " official complaint " to the KMLB that I

was a " Quack " . Later, when she realized that the KMLB was going to take

this seriously, she refused to testify at a deposition at her own home (so

she would not be the least inconvenienced to tell her story). The lawyer

for the KMLB then told MY lawyer that the case was being dropped " for lack

of substance " . That was a number of years prior to the board's final action

against my license and I had heard nothing more about it until a friend of

mine sent me a newspaper clipping that my license had been revoked for

attempting to treat a patient without ever seeing her. About a week after

the KMLB action, I got the official announcement from them in the mail.

This was the first complaint I had ever had from a patient in 30+ years of

practice. There had been at least 10 " official complaints " by the licensing

board over the years I offered alternatives to my patients--I had had none

while I only knew to practice conventional medicine. Most of these were

from other physicians whose patients came back to them well--after that

physician had treated them for many years without results. Patients had

wondered why Dr Stoll immediately knew what to do and they were well in a

few months. Instead of calling me to try to learn something, docs would

make a complaint to the KMLB for Dr Stoll " practicing unconventional

medicine " . Instead of being happy for their patients that they were well,

the docs were threatened by that happening.

Each time, after a lot of research, legal expense and psychological stress

on my part, KMLB would say: " the case was being dropped for lack of

substance " . However they would NEVER give me anything in writing so when

anyone would contact them about Dr Stoll, they could say the cases were

still pending. That way, I could not get a license in another state. This

is standard practice (although illegal) throughout the country--see

references below.

Having been stripped of my License to Practice Medicine, I cannot see

patients. Having left the state to write my book, Saving Yourself From the

Disease-Care Crisis, I had not practiced medicine for 18 months before the

KMLB finally got around to taking my license. They just bet that I would

not be willing to travel from FL to KY many times to defend myself in court

and they were right.

This is another example of the vicious vindictiveness of the process that

is going on all over the country. The KMLB knew that I did not intend to

ever go back to KY. I had taken a year in Illinois to finish my book and

had moved to Florida, permanently, to be with my wife and grandchildren.

They STILL felt it necessary to use the situation I have previously

described to take my license. I had been fighting the board for the

previous 5 years for the principle of the thing only---it is JUST SO UNFAIR!

I will be happy to answer more but I think you would profit more by looking

at the national situation, via the references listed on the website under

Conventional vs. Alternative Medicine (References).

Walt Stoll, MD