I'm new here and I need some help...

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone!

I am new on this group and I need some help. I have been suffering

from cardiac-arrest like symptoms and went to my internist for a

consultation. After several tests, an ultrasound showed that I have

gall stones on my gall bladder. My doctor said that I am suffering

from heartburn and my gall bladder is the one that is causing it. In

short, he wants it to be surgically removed. The ultrasound results

states that the gall bladder's wall is not thickened yet and the bile

ducts are not dialated. It's like my gall bladder seems to still be

healthy except for the gall stones

Thanks to the Internet, I've seen several negative effects of having

the gall bladder removed. I myself am not ready for the operation as

well, both mentally and financially. I've also read about gall

bladder cleansing by means of olive-oil and lemon. Some are also

use epsom salts.

I want to try that gall bladder flush route in removing my gall

stones out of my system. Though, I am rather confused somewhat since

I see several versions of the flush. I do hope that anyone will give

me pointers or directions as to the most effective way of doing the

flush. Also, I've read about a chinese herb, 'gold coin grass' that

can apparently dissolve or break down the gall stones and is good

before the flush. Has anyone tried this?

I deeply appreciate all the help I can get in removing my gall

stones. Thank you everyone for your help!

[Guest guest]

Hi:

Suzanne wrote:

" Your cardiac arrest-like problems sound to me like a gallbladder attack.

-Tightness around chest - especially under ribs.

-Thobbing pain that takes over an hour or more to stop.

The whole feeling is so excruiating that it feels as if you are dying.

Is that the feeling? If so, it could very well be the gallbladder. "

It could be gallbladder, I have never been diagnosed with anything relating

to my gallbladder as being a problem. But don't overlook " acid reflux " or

more importantly hiatal hernia. At:

http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health/digest/pubs/heartbrn/heartbrn.htm

you will find an excellent discussion of both reflux and hiatal hernia.

A few years ago I was rushed to the hospital via ambulance thinking that I

was having a heart attack. This was after an evening of a heavy meal of

prime rib, baked potato with sour cream, etc, and a few martinis. The

problem didn't begin though until after bed time, about 1 AM. And yes, I too

thought it was the end. However, after their diagnosis the symptoms ended I

was sent to a GI specialist (not Army) and given tests and X-Rays and

diagnosed as having a hiatal hernia. I changed my lifestyle a bit and didn't

have a recurrence, - until a couple of months ago.

A couple of months ago I again took an ambulance ride to a local hospital in

the evening after a large meal with exactly the same symptoms. This time I

hadn't had any booze - I rarely drink any more. I was held over night and

ran the treadmill in the morning, and my heart is in very good shape. I have

returned to my regular doctor and the conclusion of all doc's without any

further tests is either acid reflux or a combination of that and my hiatal

hernia. Don't know, but think that the reflux/hernia and gallbladder can

have some very similar symptoms.

I have stuck religiously to a low-fat Ornish type of diet since my last

hospital visit and have lost over 25# since that time. It is a way that I

wanted to eat anyway, but now have some motivation. (I am 6' 2 " tall and

currently 211#.) I have tried the Atkins/high-protein route and lost weight

on that in past years, but recently within a week or so on Atkins my uric

acid levels sky rocket and I begin passing uric acid stones (produced in the

kidneys) which are not only very painful, but can be dangerous as well.

Will post separately on how my last gallbladder flush has related to my

weight loss. It was an absolutely amazing flush.

Jay

[Guest guest]

Hello,

Your cardiac arrest-like problems sound to me like a gallbladder

attack.

-Tightness around chest - especially under ribs.

-Thobbing pain that takes over an hour or more to stop.

The whole feeling is so excruiating that it feels as if you are dying.

Is that the feeling? If so, it could very well be the gallbladder.

I had this feeling about 4 times before I went to the doctor and

discovered that I had gallstones. After research, I discovered many

other symptoms that I was experiencing that were also related to

gallstones.

Through this group, i have learned better diet ideas (look through

the archives or in the bookmarks). I have also done about 6 flushes

and feel more in control of my health. I have not had an attack

since December. (touch wood)

I have used Gold Coin Grass -2 bottles. After the first bottle, I

had my first attack. I am presently finishing up the second bottle.

I can't say if it works, but if your liver is very congested, it will

need a good cleaning out.

From my own feelings, the cleanse has done the most good for me. I

also believe that eating certain foods that help to clean the liver

or to help bile flow are also helping me. (ex. beets= good cleaner

and olive oil = good for system).

Maybe you are a good candidate for success with the cleansing/ diet

approach due to your gallbladder still being in good condition.

Yes there are many cleansing recipes. I have used the Hulda Clarc

with Epsom Salts. The regular dose of Epsom Salts is too strong for

my system, so I have reduced the total amount to 2 Tblsp for the

total flush (1/2 Tbsp/drink) I have also found the taste to be much

more palatable when I substituted pure fresh RED grapefruit juice for

the liquid (instead of water). - look in the archives for more ideas.

Good luck on your path to health.

Suzanne

I have been suffering

> from cardiac-arrest like symptoms and went to my internist for a

> consultation. After several tests, an ultrasound showed that I

have

> gall stones on my gall bladder...The ultrasound results

> states that the gall bladder's wall is not thickened yet and the

bile

> ducts are not dialated. It's like my gall bladder seems to still be

> healthy except for the gall stones

[Guest guest]

jaime_elizaga@... writes:

> want to try that gall bladder flush route in removing my gall

> stones out of my system. Though, I am rather confused somewhat since

> I see several versions of the flush. I do hope that anyone will give

> me pointers or directions as to the most effective way of doing the

> flush.

Hi (what is your name?)

I can see why it might seem confusing with the different versions of the

cleanse out there. Perhaps it would be helpful to know that there is no

" best " way. There is, however, a best way for YOU and the only way to find

out is to try them. The good news is that whichever way you try, you will

be doing something positive for yourself. I did the " " version (found,

among other places, on www.curezone.com). I also tried the " " version

(found on www.relfe.com). I've had positive results with both and prefer the

latter. Each person is different and you'll find what works best for you.

keep us posted, okay?

rachel~

" The problem is not that there are problems. The problem is expecting

otherwise and thinking that having problems is a problem.

~ Theodore Rubin ~

[Guest guest]

Yes, Jay, in our quest for health we must look at the problem from

all angles. A few symptoms may lead one to an uninformed conclusion

that could be totally off the mark.

The final diagnosis/conclusion may include more than one answer and

can only be trusted when all the facts are known and carefully taken

into consideration.

~Suzanne

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>> " Your cardiac arrest-like problems ... very well be the

>>gallbladder. "