Re: ayruveda herbs provoking gallbladder pain

[Guest guest]

> From: " tworivers77 " <tworivers77@...>

Hi Betsy,

Welcome to the group.

> The doctor suggested I sip on ginger root tea throughout the day, which I have

been doing, and

last night I did a castor oil pack treatment with a ginger root concoction as

well.

My preference is to peel and slice fresh ginger root, blend it with water, and

then drink it. I

use about an inch cube for each glass or two. I have had 1/2 gallon of this

quite a few times

before running and have also had it all through the day with no problems. I've

never heard of

it being used for gall stones but am sure it has good systemic effects.

> Before when I had a gallbladder attack, the pain would be intense for about

one day, nothing

as long lasting as this. Right now the pain is all in my digestive tract area,

with the greatest

tenderness being around my gallbladder and liver. The pain is so bad that it

wakes me up, and

causes considerable difficulty in moving,

Have you been doing emenas? I highly recommend them. When I had pain a dozen

years ago they,

along with paying more attention to what I was eating, got rid of it. I always

used just pure

water, but since joining the bowel cleanse group I plan to try coffee enemas

before and after my

next liver flush.

> It has been two days now since discontinuing the herbs, and I am still in

quite a bit of

pain. It seems as if my gallbladder and/or liver have become swollen and tender

as a result of

these herbs.

> I do not want to have gallbladder surgery, and yet I fear that I could easily

end up in the ER

if this type of pain continues to persist, or gets worse. Any suggestions or

experiences any

one else has had would be most welcome.

I would make sure any doctor you see is actually helping you and not trying to

sagotague your

efforts.

[Guest guest]

Hi Betsy and welcome;

If I may I would like to know the contents of the herbs you've been given

for pre-flushing preparation.

There is a condition of which you should be made aware regarding any major

changes in diet and with taking various herbs for various conditions. This

is a reaction called the Herxhimer Reaction and occurs because of the body

starting into a detoxing of various things from metals to bacteria. IT will

cause an increase in pains of joints, mucles and, cause general malaise. It

is a major reason why many people stop doing a detoxing of their bodies and

reseek the previous foods and habits.

During a time of detox, whether it is for the purpose of a special detox or

just to start getting on to a healthier life style it takse quite a bid of

resolve and a realization that things are going to be happening of whiich

you would never had expect. Things such as rashing, which can either burn or

itch, joint pain from arthritis may get worst for a time period of days or

this general malaise along with a foggy brain. It can be down right

uncomfortable because it's just like a drug addict breaking away from

certain drugs.

One food that you could start considering for a parasite cleanse will do a

few good things at the same time. It will provide you fiber of the soluble

and insoluble types as well as a chemical to help make parasites

uncomfortable with life in your body, and it also has an essential fatty

acid for the liver's production of bile. It is of all things simply pumpkin

seeds, and what's really amazing is how good they taste too.

When doing a detox it is good to make sure you are eating a lot of soluble

and insoluble fibered foods. The reason for this is to be sure to provide a

means by which the bile the gallbladder and liver will be dumping will be

enabled to be removed from your system much faster, as bile is the main

means by which the body gets rid of toxins of which have come to be within

it.

So, instead of taking the herbs, for now just start eating a diet void of va

rious things, such as coffee, sugar, hydrogenated fats, saturated animal

fats, and anything containing aspertame. This will go a long ways towards

your starting a good detox of your body when used with the right tools for

liver and gallbladder support. You may also want to avoid foods of which are

good for the liver an gallbladder but are too stimulative for them at the

present time. Such foods as beets, cabbage, pecan nuts are just a couple of

which I personally had to avoid for around a year after my last attack.

The best support of the liver and gallbladder is of course working at

reducing the work load with which they have to deal and providing them the

foods that help them to do their job more effeciently. This is done by

providing essential fatty acids so that more of the HDL can be made for the

scavenging work of detoxing the body will work more effeciently. You can get

EFAs from olive, hemp, flaxseed, or other oils. It can also be absorbed from

massage. It can also be gotten at the same time as getting relief by means

of a castor oil pack.

http://curezone.com/cures/castoroil.asp

IF you just do these few things you'll certainly be off to a good start.

Then you can start adding various herbs, but, the herbs may need to be much

more milder amounts than what you've been taking. IT took time to get to

where the stones formed and it takes time to get to where they're gone.

Patience is important but with a resolve and seeing that it is possible to

do something helps to maintain that hope.

Dale

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Hello, I am new to this group, and since finding out I have

gallstones, I have been slowly working towards doing a

gallbladder/liver flush. I recently began working with an

alternative health care provider who started me on some ayruveda

herbs for bowel/parasites cleanse. After only two days on them, I

became quite ill, and at the doctors advice, I have discontinued them

for the time being. The doctor wants me to take a three day break

from them, and then resume them at a lower dose, gradually increasing

the dose again as I feel ready.

It has been two days now since discontinuing the herbs, and I am

still in quite a bit of pain. It seems as if my gallbladder and/or

liver have become swollen and tender as a result of these herbs. And

so I'm wondering if other people may have had similar reactions, and

I'm wondering if perhaps a different herbal combination would be less

irritating to the gallbladder/liver, or if this is just a necessary

process in order to kill the parasites. These herbs have also killed

my appetite, and since I have already lost a considerable amount of

weight , I can't imagine going the entire course of treatment with

these types of side-effects.

I do not want to have gallbladder surgery, and yet I fear that I

could easily end up in the ER if this type of pain continues to

persist, or gets worse. Any suggestions or experiences any one else

has had would be most welcome.

-Betsy

[Guest guest]

Betsy, I am no expert as I continue to have problems and am closer to

surgery than I ever thought. The attacks are wearing me down. But, I

did a parasite cleanse for 30 days before I did my first cleanse, but

I ended up in ER one night and they wanted to schedule surgery. I

started my first cleanse the next day. I have now done 10. My overall

health is so much better and I have lost 25 pounds. But, I am still

having attacks. I am also still seeking knowledge. I think it would

be good for you to go ahead and do a cleanse. Then resume with your

plan. Dawn

Right now the pain is all in my

> digestive tract area, with the greatest tenderness being around my

> gallbladder and liver. The pain is so bad that it wakes me up, and

> causes considerable difficulty in moving, even blowing my nose

> hurts. I am wondering if maybe I should do a flush first, to get

rid

> of the gallstones, with the understanding that I will need to do

> another one after a parasite cleanse. I feel as though I have come

> too far to let myself succumb to surgery at this point.

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