Guest guest Posted July 6, 2002 Report Share Posted July 6, 2002 Has anyone experienced a gallstone/bladder attack after having spinach or swisschard? In the past, I have gotten very ill from the real curley variety of spinach. Today, I began to think about the fact that I had green swisschard on Sunday when my pain was starting to get more out of hand. Well, both of these vegies have oxalic acid. I don't have time to research this fully but here are 2 references so far: http://www.housing.uiuc.edu/dining/vegetarian (quote: oxalic acid which blocks calcium absorption) http://www.healingedge.net/store/more_scie_hepatatrope.html (quote: Birth control pills increase the risk of gallstones, which can be caused by oxalic acid toxicity. Vitamin B-6 detoxifies oxalic acid (7).) Go to the following site for a list of foods with related oxalic acid counts: http://www.newtreatments.org/Hypomagnesia/ga/212/Oxalic%20Acid% 20Content%20of%20selected%20foods for Can anyone comment further on whether there is a link between gallstones and oxalic acid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2002 Report Share Posted July 7, 2002 > Has anyone experienced a gallstone/bladder attack after having > spinach or swisschard? In the past, I have gotten very ill from the > real curley variety of spinach. Today, I began to think about the > fact that I had green swisschard on Sunday when my pain was starting > to get more out of hand. Well, both of these vegies have oxalic > acid. I don't have time to research this fully but here are 2 > references so far: Isn't the Oxalic Acid lost during cooking...I'm assuming you cooked the spinach/swisschard, but maybe not. Do you use oils or butter on it when cooking? I know they are great roughage. I notice that sometimes it seems like I am having GB symptoms, but it is really related to colon which goes up fairly at the " hepatic flexure " on the liver side of the body...could be build up of gas, etc. This weekend we went to a wedding and reception, and I really let down my guard a lot, ate oily greasy food with minimal symptoms, which is nice, but I don't do that often. I do make sure I get some oil each day, though. L. Meydrech, CN http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes http://nutritionist.tripod.com ~ Journey to Health & Auctions " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2002 Report Share Posted July 7, 2002 I think the effect of cooking is opposite from what you stated, but thanks for bringing this to mind. Your post helped me remember my being told to try to always try to eat spinach raw instead of cooked. This is a site for nutrition in dogs (!) but it reports on the effect of cooking foods high in oxalic acid: http://www.listservice.net/wellpet/nutrition/spinach.htm Can anyone else comment on any links between oxalic acid and gallstones? Yes, I bet I did saute some garlic before adding the swisschard to be cooked -- and that probably didn't help any!! Thanks again. 's post read: > Isn't the Oxalic Acid lost during cooking...I'm assuming you cooked > the spinach/swisschard, but maybe not. Do you use oils or butter > on it when cooking? I know they are great roughage. I notice that > sometimes it seems like I am having GB symptoms, but it is really > related to colon which goes up fairly at the " hepatic flexure " on > the liver side of the body...could be build up of gas, etc. > > This weekend we went to a wedding and reception, and I really > let down my guard a lot, ate oily greasy food with minimal > symptoms, which is nice, but I don't do that often. I do make > sure I get some oil each day, though. > > L. Meydrech, CN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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