Re: Barry your gallbladder-Thanks susie

[Guest guest]

> D, a good person to listen to on this subject who has a lot of

knowledge about it and is trustworthy is Dale . He's had

some serious problems and has straightened himself out.

>

Thanks susie. Dale is awesome. He did try to help me and get me

through but it was kind of one of those things (to little to late)

I would e-mail Dale at the weeist hours in pain and he would try to

tell my husband how to do the pressure points to relieve the pain.

When I first learned about the flushes I was so excited and ready to

go. I was able to do about 2-3 and ended up pregnant and every one I

talked to said no cause it would dump toxins into the baby. I had a

more exhausting pregnancy,than a move and gave birth and finished the

move all in one weekend. We did stay at the hospital for 6 hours

after birth though so I had a little break. There was just so much

going on and my husband working and going to school full time. I was

basically a single mom with a new baby and the other two kids the

oldest still hadn't turned 5. So there was just tons going on and I

was doing the best to learn all I could. This attack ended up being

my 3rd ER one. My Chiropractor tried working with me and said I gave

it a good go but he even recommended the keyhole surgery and like

I've said he was so mad when he saw how sick I was after the surgery.

I was worse than I went in and the Dr's wouldn't even listen or

adment that I was in pain.

I had forgotten that my Aunt works for a Gallbladder surgeon (can't

think straight when you feel like your dying) anyway I called her

within 24 hours after surgery and she even said I should not be this

sick. We tried calling the Dr. Several times and they wouldn't take

me serious. It was a nightmare.

I also talked to Dale after the surgery but I was very sick

afterwards that even my Chiropractor wouldn't give me the okay to do

the flushes. I'm finally to the point that I can handle them, now

it's a matter of finding the time. We live in a small apartment and

trying to cordinate it so that I can go to bed and rest and do

exactly as the flush recommends isn't an easy feet with a 2 year old.

Honestly I don't know why Barry sticks around this list. If's he's so

happy and it worked for him than why not move on to greener pastures

and leave the list to those that are wanting to use the Hulda

methods and trying to find success without the surgery. It's obvious

that the medical recommends the surgery that is why we have this list

to try and support each other and do it without the surgery. We don't

need someone encouraging us to get it down if that's not what we

want. Most people on this list realize that if it's not working for

them than they can do the sugery but until they decide that they want

encouragement and knowledge of natural methods to deal with pain and

gallstones.

D

[Guest guest]

,

I still believe that the flush works in removing liver bile and

gallstones. I just put the forms of bile in different categories now.

I believe there are gallstones and soft bile balls from the liver.

I don't call both of them gallstones anymore. I am just trying to

understand the differences and there definitely are some if you look

at the differences and results carefully. Whatever, I'm also tired of

trying to 'explain' what my opinion is of the differences.

Good luck to you with your health. Have you been flushing lately or

having any colic pain?

Barry.

--- In gallstones@y..., " L. Meydrech " <claudiameydrech@c...>

wrote:

> > Honestly I don't know why Barry sticks around this list. If's

he's so

> > happy and it worked for him than why not move on to greener

pastures

> > and leave the list to those that are wanting to use the Hulda

> > methods and trying to find success without the surgery. It's

obvious

> > that the medical recommends the surgery that is why we have this

list

> > to try and support each other and do it without the surgery. We

don't

> > need someone encouraging us to get it down if that's not what we

> > want. Most people on this list realize that if it's not working

for

> > them than they can do the sugery but until they decide that they

want

> > encouragement and knowledge of natural methods to deal with pain

and

> > gallstones.

> >

> > D

>

> I heartily agree...when I first joned the list, you (Barry) were

> really into the flushes and a great encouragement to us " flushers "

> and you've made a complete turn-around. I guess it is because

> we all tend to " stick up for " the choices we make. I remember

> right after you had the surgery, you told us about it and mentioned

> leaving the list, and everyone begged you to stay on...we didn't

> want to see you go. But I must admit that the discussion on here

> has gotten very negative...I don't enjoy the list nearly as much

> as I used to and am close to leaving. Someone made me a

> moderater without asking me a while back, and I've taken myself

> off that. Not angry, Barry, just disappointed.

>

> L. Meydrech, CN

> http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes

> http://nutritionist.tripod.com ~ Journey to Health & Auctions

> " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a

[Guest guest]

--- In gallstones@y..., " L. Meydrech " <claudiameydrech@c...>

> I haven't (yet) had the excruciating pain many describe on the

list, but do have back and shoulder discomfort, tightening that I feel

> just below sturnum and right across to my sides at bottom

> edge of the rib cage, if that makes sense. And that annoying

> smell I described earlier. Nausea, need to go to the bathroom

> and increased heartbeat often accompany, but don't know

> how much of that is GB related and how much is " oh no,

> not this yucky feeling again " anxiousness.

That's what I had and my chiropractor told me that it was Gallbladder

related but that it wasn't his expertise so I went to my md who

refuse to run test when he found out it was a Chiropractor that told

me. So I kind of blew if off knowing that something wasn't right but

didn't know what to do.

Anyway it was 18 months after this that I thought I was having a

heart attack and ended up in emergency. After hours of testing they

found a gallstone. The surgeon said that if the MD would have checked

he would have seen it back then. After that I tried different things

and got a second opinion from another MD that told me not to do

surgery. Back than I didn't have a computer and really didn't know

where to look for info. By my second horrid attack I was able to get

online and learn more about the flushes. I really think that if you

look into this now and even try that stuff from Dr.

called Barberry LG. (LG stands for liver and gallbladder)I found it

at www.herbsfirst.com Nature sunshine might have something for

gallstones/gallbladder problems also.

I rememerber watching something on a news show that described your

symptons and it said that they were early signs of gall trouble.

Especially the burning in the shoulderblade and excessive heartburn.

I hope these suggestion can help. Buy the time I found this list I

think my stone was to big to get out. They had to crush the sones

really hard to remove the gallbladder. After they described how they

had to get it out no wonder they leaked toxins into my system.

Good luck

D