Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Some have noted that Epsom Salts has helped them to get through episodes. I've done castor oil packs and had a foot massage to help a couple of times, but, it's been over two and a half years since my last attack in October of '99' and I have only done maybe two more castor oil packs since then. True, Dale, at least it does help me, and so do the castor oil packs. In my opinion what has also helped me is now I take magnesium every day. I take it three times per day and one at bedtime. These are magnesium caps that I get from the health food store. I get Solaray brand because I think it's a good product. I have tried magnesium chelate, now I'm using magnesium citrate caps. It doesn't cause diarrhea unless you take a lot, but even 3x a day I never have constipation problems anymore at all. Another thing, if one knows that they for sure have stones, Beta-TCP is wonderful. I take it with my meals. I found out about Beta-TCP from Dr. Mercola's website. He gives it to all his patients who have gallstones. It surely does help! Take care, Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does someone have anything that works to stop a gall bladder attack after it starts. I hate taking the heavy duty pain killers they give you in the ER. Someone mentioned Curcuma and another something they couldn't remember. I do the castor oil packs a couple of times a week and watch my diet. I just did my first flush, but don't think it was too successful as I only had one movement that was greenish in color and had one stone about the size of a small pebble. Any advise would be appreciated. Lvquilting@... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually the heavy duty pain killers do just about as much good. They help to relax the muscles and this in turn also helps in getting a stone to pass. My doctor worked along with me when I was doing the flushes to help in keeping me from too much pain. I told the nurse that I don't like having to take the medication but that is when I was told it was helping to relax the various actions. I would fairly frequently test to see how I was doing and end up having to take around four to Five roxicets to keep from having to go to the hospital. If I happened to need more I would go to the hospital but that only happened a total of four times in '99' and really boils down to two because the first two trips were to find out I did in fact have 'A' gallstone. Some have noted that Epsom Salts has helped them to get through episodes. I've done castor oil packs and had a foot massage to help a couple of times, but, it's been over two and a half years since my last attack in October of '99' and I have only done maybe two more castor oil packs since then. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 I would like to try Beta-TCP, but I like to know how things work on your body before I try something. Exactly what is Beta-TCP Hello, Pat, here is a copy from the website where I order my Beta-TCP from. Biotics Research makes the product. Beta-TCP - Source of organic whole beet concentrate and vitamin C from beet source, taurine and pancrealipase (all known to assist with cholesterol to bile acid conversion). Use with biliary stasis where there are no signs of constipation or light colored stools and the gall bladder has not been removed. Symptoms for use include - pain over the eyes, pain in the webbing between the right thumb and fore finger, pain between the shoulder blades, gas, bloating, inability to tolerate fats or fried foods, or a history of gall bladder attacks where stones were detected or suspected. This is the website link: http://www.myvits.com/ <A HREF= " http://www.myvits.com/ " >MYVITS.com Where Hollywood shops for nutrition</A> Pat, here is info from Dr. Mercola's website: http://www.mercola.com/1999/sep/12/exercise_prevents_gallstone_surgery.htm Take care, Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Susie, I would like to try Beta-TCP, but I like to know how things work on your body before I try something. Exactly what is Beta-TCP, and why is it good for someone with gallstones? What does it do to the gallstones, or the gallbladder? Thanks, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2002 Report Share Posted June 28, 2002 Agnes has posted in the past that the taking of some epsom salt during an attack can bring relief. I can't remember the dosage, but it was something like 1 Tblsp. in a glass of water or juice. Maybe someone else remembers, or has tried it, and can reply ________________ I've taken ES during an attack and it stopped the attack. It was last year on my mini-vacation. We took some Tropicana Orange juice with us, and this stuff brought on the attack. I don't ever drink that stuff, so I didn't know. Of course, Agnes may have stated this, too, about the ES stopping an attack. Take care, Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2002 Report Share Posted June 28, 2002 Hi, Agnes has posted in the past that the taking of some epsom salt during an attack can bring relief. I can't remember the dosage, but it was something like 1 Tblsp. in a glass of water or juice. Maybe someone else remembers, or has tried it, and can reply. Since you made it through the first flush O.K., I'd encourage you to give it another try. Sometimes it takes more than one flush to " see " results. Also, I'd try to do the other cleansing programs-the bowel/kidney/parasite ones (they can be found on the curezone website, and in your healthfood stores.) Adrienne lvquilting@... wrote: Does someone have anything that works to stop a gall bladder attack after it starts. I hate taking the heavy duty pain killers they give you in the ER. Someone mentioned Curcuma and another something they couldn't remember. I do the castor oil packs a couple of times a week and watch my diet. I just did my first flush, but don't think it was too successful as I only had one movement that was greenish in color and had one stone about the size of a small pebble. Any advise would be appreciated. Lvquilting@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2002 Report Share Posted June 29, 2002 I have found relief from what appeared to be the beginning of a gallstone attack by taking anywhere from 4- 10 tablespoons of liquid chlorophyll. This seems to work best if I know I've eaten something that might be interferring with the flow of my bile, as liquid chlorophyll is suppose to help with that. I have also found that any tea with peppermint in it helps, although I've heard that peppermint should be avoided by those with known gallstones when NOT having an attack. Hope this helps... -betsy lvquilting@... wrote: Does someone have anything that works to stop a gall bladder attack after it starts. I hate taking the heavy duty pain killers they give you in the ER. Someone mentioned Curcuma and another something they couldn't remember. I do the castor oil packs a couple of times a week and watch my diet. I just did my first flush, but don't think it was too successful as I only had one movement that was greenish in color and had one stone about the size of a small pebble. Any advise would be appreciated. Lvquilting@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2002 Report Share Posted June 29, 2002 >My doctor worked along with me when I was doing the >flushes to help in keeping me from too much pain. Dale, what a blessing to have a doctor who works with you on the flushes!! That is extremely rare! It would be so good if they would do that, so all our success stories could be as wonderful as yours! Do I sound just a little jealous?? Well I am :-) L. Meydrech, CN http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes http://nutritionist.tripod.com ~ Journey to Health & Auctions " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2002 Report Share Posted June 29, 2002 >I have found relief from what appeared to be the >beginning of a gallstone attack by taking anywhere >from 4- 10 tablespoons of liquid chlorophyll. This >seems to work best if I know I've eaten something that >might be interferring with the flow of my bile, as liquid >chlorophyll is suppose to help with that. I have also >found that any tea with peppermint in it helps, although >I've heard that peppermint should be avoided by those >with known gallstones when NOT having an attack. Are you using NSP's Liquid Chlorophyll? If so, it has some peppermint in it for flavor. Maybe that is what is helping?? I put in my drinking water all the time. L. Meydrech, CN http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes http://nutritionist.tripod.com ~ Journey to Health & Auctions " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2002 Report Share Posted June 29, 2002 Are you using NSP's Liquid Chlorophyll? If so, it has some peppermint in it for flavor. Maybe that is what is helping?? I put in my drinking water all the time. Hello, About peppermint, Dr. ' (or Louis) GB/liver cleanse says that if you have nausea from taking the olive oil and lemon juice, that one can add a bit of peppermint oil to it. I occasionly add a little bit to my olive oil/grapefruit juice. It only takes very little and helps with the nausea. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2002 Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 Curcuma and Coptis is what is recommended by Chaing who sells the Chinese herbs. I tried it once when I felt like an attack " might " be coming on and it worked, but I am not positive that I was having one. Try very hot bath or the hot cold treatment. Shower from hot to cold one minute at a time for fifteen minutes. Do the therapy every day for healing treatment. I use two bathtubs, one with cold, one with hot. I don't like doing it, but it has worked every time for me. All cleanses are different. Don't give up. Keep at it. Dawn who has now done twelve cleanses. > Does someone have anything that works to stop a gall bladder attack after > it starts. I hate taking the heavy duty pain killers they give you in > the ER. Someone mentioned Curcuma and another something they couldn't > remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2002 Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 Hear, hear! I am following Susie's recommended protocol on both products and have not had an attack in a month. I am also no longer " testing " my gb with foods I KNOW will bring on an attack. I am being a good girl for another month (and probably beyond) until I see the new ultrasound results. Dawn I have tried magnesium chelate, now I'm using magnesium citrate > caps. It doesn't cause diarrhea unless you take a lot, but even 3x a day I > never have constipation problems anymore at all. > Another thing, if one knows that they for sure have stones, Beta- TCP is > wonderful. I take it with my meals. I found out about Beta-TCP from Dr. > Mercola's website. He gives it to all his patients who have gallstones. It > surely does help! > Take care, > Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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