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One interesting story from:

http://curezone.com/forums/message.asp?f=80 & i=1875

Subject: Re: 2nd Liver/Gallbladder Flush - More Stones out, but feel worse

From: Jasmine

Date: Today 01:45 Jun 02 2002

Does it occur to you that a fact is a claim that can be substantiated. Please

supply the scientific evidence to support your case. Don' t forget though that

you will need a large sample size probably over 100 to make sure that the

results cannot be considered chance. You will need to take a full medical and

life style history from these people and then you will need to have flushed

stones from all these people tested, including the calcified ones that people

like myself have passed. Then and only then will you be able to substantiate

your claim.

Oh and by the way, the majority of stones that I have passed have been rock

hard or calcified. As someone with a keen interest in science, please explain

how calcification of bile salts and olive oil can take place in 12 hours. I

would be most interested!

Jasmine

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Jasmine's story was interesting for sure. This is the first time I

have heard of anyone saying they have passed many hard calcified

stones. Her stones may have been small enough to pass out of the

cystic duct. She may have gotten to her gb before it was 'beyond'

repair. Whatever the case it is very rare. Sure the flush does work

for some people thank God but the majority of people flushing only

get out soft throughout balls of bile and the colic pain remains

because of some hard gallstones remaining in the gb and/or ducts.

They will keep flushing forever to mask the pain but the stone

remains with the pain. This is the majority of results found in this

group and in flush site testimonies. How I wish I could have been

her. We all do.

If the flush is successful you will remove the gallstone with the

pain. To flush thousands of soft bile balls out with a flush and live

with a gallstone with pain is not successful in my opinion.

Also, to mask the gallstone pain with oil so that the pain dissapears

for awhile is not successful either. Stop flushing for a few months

and see if you have a gallstone that is causing pain again.

A successful flush story would be someone who removes the gallstone

with the pain and then flushes once a year maintanance. Not someone

who is continually flushing for years to cover the gallstone pain

with the coating effects of olive oil coursing through their veins.

Just some thoughts. Good story, but very rare.

Barry.

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> One interesting story from:

> http://curezone.com/forums/message.asp?f=80 & i=1875

>

>

> Subject: Re: 2nd Liver/Gallbladder Flush - More Stones out, but

feel worse

> From: Jasmine

> Date: Today 01:45 Jun 02 2002

>

> Does it occur to you that a fact is a claim that can be

substantiated. Please

> supply the scientific evidence to support your case. Don' t forget

though that

> you will need a large sample size probably over 100 to make sure

that the

> results cannot be considered chance. You will need to take a full

medical and

> life style history from these people and then you will need to have

flushed

> stones from all these people tested, including the calcified ones

that people

> like myself have passed. Then and only then will you be able to

substantiate

> your claim.

>

> Oh and by the way, the majority of stones that I have passed have

been rock

> hard or calcified. As someone with a keen interest in science,

please explain

> how calcification of bile salts and olive oil can take place in 12

hours. I

> would be most interested!

>

> Jasmine

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