Re: here's something weird....

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

" > After swishing for a bit I spit out the ACV and noticed that there

seemed

> to be something else in there. I hadn't even had breakfast yet - just the

> morning lemon water - so it isn't like there could be any kind of food

> particles. So I did it again, just to see if I was mistaken. Same

results 3 or 4 times, when I spit out the ACV there were little....how do I

describe them.....I don't know.....not quite hairlike,

> threadlike, sort of like the vein of a leaf - but VERY small. "

I hate to gross you out, (is that possible on this list?!?!) but could it be

parasites being eliminated from your body?

God bless,

KJ

Subject: here's something weird....

> Ever since Agnes posted about the oil swishing (a month ago, maybe?) I

> started doing it. I've taken to adding a few drops of SuperTonic to the

oil

> for added effect. Anyway...I ran out of olive oil (imagine that - a

> gallbladder flusher with no olive oil in the kitchen!) and didn't do it

for a

> couple of days.

>

> Yesterday I noticed a tenderness in my gums in an area where I'd had a

minor

> problem before. I thought that it would be important to resume the oil

> swishing in an effort to deal with whatever was in there. Since I didn't

> have oil, I used Apple Cider Vinegar (very cleansing). I did it this

> morning shortly after I got to work (around 6:30). Here's the weird

thing.

> Do you suppose it's possible that this is coming from the inflammation in

my

> gum? it isn't anything serious - just a little tenderness.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi :

I agree with Barry that food can get between the gums and teeth. I've

recently been having some dental work done at the Univ of Wn dental school

and they push, probe, and X Ray everything. I've learned that as I age, my

gums begin to sag away from the tooth root. In fact, when they clean my

teeth in a couple of weeks, they are going to give me a mild anesthetic

because they say that it is very invasive. The gum sagging happens to

everyone. And like Barry, I have things like popcorn (which I love) hang

around for a long time, even into the next day.

For some strange reason, swishing really cleans things out around the teeth,

and I too have found little bits and pieces that are picked up by the oil,

even when swishing long after eating or even first thing in the AM.

Jay

[Guest guest]

PEACEJ@... writes:

> I hate to gross you out, (is that possible on this list?!?!) but could it be

> parasites being eliminated from your body?

>

Lol, I don't think it really is possible to gross people out on a bowel

cleansing list. At least not people who've been here for a while. Everyone

gets used to this stuff after a while, I think.

Thanks for the feedback. A few responses... I've recently had a thorough

exam and teeth cleaning. The stuff I saw was after thoroughly brushing my

teeth a number of times and it continued after swishing a number of times. I

know that I couldn't describe very well what I saw, but it definitely was not

food. Not popcorn, not cereal, not nuts - not anything resembling any of the

kind. Here's the best way I can describe it. If you've ever seen natural

apple cider vinegar with the " mother " in it. That's what the stuff looked

like. First I thought that it was in the ACV, but there wasn't any in the

jar I had brought to work (a diluted mixture). Just to be sure, I swished

again using just water and saw the same stuff.

The possibility of parasites did occur to me, but since I've not been on any

cleansing routine I kind of ruled that out, pretty much. I thought about it

later in the day and it occurred to me that it might have been from blood

from the gums.

I don't want to see the dentist unless it becomes serious. Not that I have

anything against the dentist or any fear of him. I actually happen to like

my dentist and believe it or not, enjoy going to the office. I just don't

think it's anything that requires medical attention. If it gets worse,

though, of course I will. But now it's Friday morning and I feel a bit of

an improvement and I haven't seen any more of that membrane type stuff. So I

think all is okay.

Thanks for the feedback!

rachel~

" The problem is not that there are problems. The problem is expecting

otherwise and thinking that having problems is a problem.

~ Theodore Rubin ~

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the feedback. A few responses... I've recently had a thorough

exam and teeth cleaning. The stuff I saw was after thoroughly brushing my

teeth a number of times and it continued after swishing a number of times. I

know that I couldn't describe very well what I saw, but it definitely was not

food. Not popcorn, not cereal, not nuts - not anything resembling any of the

kind. Here's the best way I can describe it. If you've ever seen natural

apple cider vinegar with the " mother " in it. That's what the stuff looked

like. First I thought that it was in the ACV, but there wasn't any in the

jar I had brought to work (a diluted mixture). Just to be sure, I swished

again using just water and saw the same stuff. I thought about it later

in the day and it occurred to me that it might have been from blood from the

gums.

I don't want to see the dentist unless it becomes serious. Not that I have

anything against the dentist or any fear of him. I actually happen to like

my dentist and believe it or not, enjoy going to the office. I just don't

think it's anything that requires medical attention. If it gets worse,

though, of course I will.

Thanks, Barry, Jay and KJ for responding. I'll keep you posted.

rachel~

In a message dated 4/25/02 9:38:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

barry91162@... writes:

> Actually, yes, I have experienced something simular to what you are

> talking about. Most of the time I figure out that it is some food

> that had been stuck under the gum. For instance, sometimes wheat

> cereal will stick under my gums and come out the next day. Same with

> popcorn kernels. Just some thoughts. I hate for you to think it was

> anything but food. If it really is some kind of wormy stuff then I

> would say you should go out and buy a gallon of olive oil and swish

> those gums several times a day. Also, seeing your dentist may be

> helpful. hehe A good teeth cleaning may be overdue. :-)

>

" The problem is not that there are problems. The problem is expecting

otherwise and thinking that having problems is a problem.

~ Theodore Rubin ~

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Actually, yes, I have experienced something simular to what you are

talking about. Most of the time I figure out that it is some food

that had been stuck under the gum. For instance, sometimes wheat

cereal will stick under my gums and come out the next day. Same with

popcorn kernels. Just some thoughts. I hate for you to think it was

anything but food. If it really is some kind of wormy stuff then I

would say you should go out and buy a gallon of olive oil and swish

those gums several times a day. Also, seeing your dentist may be

helpful. hehe A good teeth cleaning may be overdue. :-)

Rach, how is it that you always get to have those weird, cool,

undescribable foriegn object things? hahaha

Be healthy.

Barry.

> Ever since Agnes posted about the oil swishing (a month ago,

maybe?) I

> started doing it. I've taken to adding a few drops of SuperTonic

to the oil

> for added effect. Anyway...I ran out of olive oil (imagine that -

a

> gallbladder flusher with no olive oil in the kitchen!) and didn't

do it for a

> couple of days.

>

> Yesterday I noticed a tenderness in my gums in an area where I'd

had a minor

> problem before. I thought that it would be important to resume the

oil

> swishing in an effort to deal with whatever was in there. Since I

didn't

> have oil, I used Apple Cider Vinegar (very cleansing). I did it

this

> morning shortly after I got to work (around 6:30). Here's the

weird thing.

> After swishing for a bit I spit out the ACV and noticed that

there seemed

> to be something else in there. I hadn't even had breakfast yet -

just the

> morning lemon water - so it isn't like there could be any kind of

food

> particles. So I did it again, just to see if I was mistaken. Same

results.

> Again. Same result. 3 or 4 times, when I spit out the ACV there

were

> little....how do I describe them.....I don't know.....not quite

hairlike,

> threadlike, sort of like the vein of a leaf - but VERY small.

>

> Do you suppose it's possible that this is coming from the

inflammation in my

> gum? it isn't anything serious - just a little tenderness.

>

> I just thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone had any

speculation or

> had possibly ever experienced something similar.

>

> in health,

> rachel

[Guest guest]

Very good point, Elaine, and I'll keep that in mind. Just to clarify,

though, something that I think I might have not communicated clearly. When I

did the oil swishing I just added a few drops of the SuperTonic to it. But

when I 'swished' with the ACV I definitely didn't keep it in there for 10

minutes In fact...I'd be amazed to hear of anyone who could, because it was

all I could do to keep it in there for a minute of swishing!

That is a good point to keep in mind, though. I hadn't even thought about

the enamel on the teeth. I guess when gargling normally with ACV the contact

is with the throat,mostly, rather than the teeth. The last thing I want to

do is cause MORE problems while trying to take care of something else.

An update, by the way, that area is pretty much back to normal. Whew!

rachel~

In a message dated 4/28/02 7:24:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wcr2ew@...

writes:

> I use Dr. Schulze's Tooth and Gum--when I use it full strength I have

> something like what you are saying but it is clearly mucus. I think

> I would be very carful with ACV in my mouth next to my teeth for a

> period of time--what is it 10 min ??? When I had poison ivy on my

> arm someone suggested I pour ACV over it. Well I did---it didn't do

> much good but I also failed to rinse my sink and it ate the chrome

> off the stopper in my sink. It would be awful if the ACV hurt the

> enamel on your teeth. I can see that ACV would be cleansing and know

> that it is good for what ails the body, I just wonder if having it

> next to your teeth will harm them---I don't know---just wondering.

> Elaine

>

" The problem is not that there are problems. The problem is expecting

otherwise and thinking that having problems is a problem.

~ Theodore Rubin ~

[Guest guest]

I use Dr. Schulze's Tooth and Gum--when I use it full strength I have

something like what you are saying but it is clearly mucus. I think

I would be very carful with ACV in my mouth next to my teeth for a

period of time--what is it 10 min ??? When I had poison ivy on my

arm someone suggested I pour ACV over it. Well I did---it didn't do

much good but I also failed to rinse my sink and it ate the chrome

off the stopper in my sink. It would be awful if the ACV hurt the

enamel on your teeth. I can see that ACV would be cleansing and know

that it is good for what ails the body, I just wonder if having it

next to your teeth will harm them---I don't know---just wondering.

Elaine

> Ever since Agnes posted about the oil swishing (a month ago,

maybe?) I

> started doing it. I've taken to adding a few drops of SuperTonic

to the oil

> for added effect. Anyway...I ran out of olive oil (imagine that -

a

> gallbladder flusher with no olive oil in the kitchen!) and didn't

do it for a

> couple of days.

>

> Yesterday I noticed a tenderness in my gums in an area where I'd

had a minor

> problem before. I thought that it would be important to resume the

oil

> swishing in an effort to deal with whatever was in there. Since I

didn't

> have oil, I used Apple Cider Vinegar (very cleansing). I did it

this

> morning shortly after I got to work (around 6:30). Here's the

weird thing.

> After swishing for a bit I spit out the ACV and noticed that

there seemed

> to be something else in there. I hadn't even had breakfast yet -

just the

> morning lemon water - so it isn't like there could be any kind of

food

> particles. So I did it again, just to see if I was mistaken. Same

results.

> Again. Same result. 3 or 4 times, when I spit out the ACV there

were

> little....how do I describe them.....I don't know.....not quite

hairlike,

> threadlike, sort of like the vein of a leaf - but VERY small.

>

> Do you suppose it's possible that this is coming from the

inflammation in my

> gum? it isn't anything serious - just a little tenderness.

>

> I just thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone had any

speculation or

> had possibly ever experienced something similar.

>

> in health,

> rachel

[Guest guest]

Could it be some of the floaty stuff at the bottom of the apple cider

vineager? Dawn

there seemed

> to be something else in there. I hadn't even had breakfast yet -

just the

> morning lemon water - so it isn't like there could be any kind of

food

> particles. So I did it again, just to see if I was mistaken. Same

results.

> Again. Same result. 3 or 4 times, when I spit out the ACV there

were

> little....how do I describe them.....I don't know.....not quite

hairlike,

> threadlike, sort of like the vein of a leaf - but VERY small.

>

> Do you suppose it's possible that this is coming from the

inflammation in my

> gum? it isn't anything serious - just a little tenderness.

>

> I just thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone had any

speculation or

> had possibly ever experienced something similar.

>

> in health,

> rachel