Re: eating whatever you want-Barry

[Guest guest]

> For me, in my case, it turned out to be the 'lesser of the two

evils'

> if you will.

>

> I was living with colic attacks 2 to 3 times a week, lost 15 lbs by

> flushing and was down to 155 lbs, and didn't like the thought of

> having to flush forever to hide the pain with a coating of oil. My

> stone just didn't come out because it was too big and hard.

did you every drink the pure fresh apple juice (you need about 32 oz

a day for 2-4 week) than there are the chinese herbs that dissolve

and break up hard stones. Did you ever try those?

I did the surgery cause for me I had it with the pain and they

weren't giving me anything stronger than loritab. If I could have

found the other info sooner and had more support with the kids It

would have been interesting to see how it would have turned out. But

honestly I felt like I needed to have this first hand experience with

a surgery gone bad. It has made me want to take better care of myself

and to avoid Medical Dr.s as much as possible. From the sounds of it

you and I are on differnet levels. I'm wanting to become and Master

Herbalist and have learned about a lot of natural healings that Dr's

just don't believe in. I do believe that there are some very good

Dr's but a lot of things that Dr's try to " heal or cure " you of can

be done naturally with herbs and nature if we understand them enough.

It was actually a Chiropractor that told me I had gall problems but

that's not his specialty so I went to my md and asked him to test me.

When he found out that it was a Chiropractor that suggested it he

told me he was a quack. I trusted my MD and went on my way to later

end up in ER 18 months later. They found at least one gallstone and

the Surgeon said that if the MD would have checked he would have seen

it. So when I first found out about it it was small enough that I

most likely would have had success flushing it out. I didn't find

out about the flushes until about a year before my surgery and due to

circumstances I wasn't able to flush more than a few times. I don't

doubt that if I would have found this information sooner and that MD

would have ran test I feel that I could have saved my Gallbladder.

But I've learned some valuable lessons from it.

D

[Guest guest]

D,

If you found out a year before opting for surgery about the flushing

method why didn't you have the means to do more and attempt to save

yourself from the operation?

Also about the herbs. From all the testimonies in here and in the

flush site testimonies no herbs have been found to reduce the size of

a hardened gallstone. One guy did say that Chanca Piedra reduced his

2.9 cm gallstone down to 2.1 cm in 6 months but after talking with

him through personal email he didn't really know or have ultrasound

to verify that. What's the name of that herb again?

I drank tons of apple juice but never the chinese herbs because it

isn't available to me here and I haven't heard any success stories to

back them up for gallstone reduction. Actigal would probably work

just as well for cholesterol hardened stones but it could take a year

and any herb or medication you take doesn't stop the stones from

returning in 50% of the cases unless you continue on the treatment

for life. Dieting will not reduce a gallstone or prevent future

stones from forming. Dieting can slow down the process but they will

still return in 50% of the cases.

By the way, maybe you wouldn't have been successful in removing that

hard gallstone with a flush as well. Have you thought of that? Or

that they wouldn't have came back unless you were flushing every two

weeks for life. Nevertheless you are gallbladderless now and need to

continue looking for answers from here forward to be healthy and

happy without it. Instead of harping on the past 'mistake' that you

feel you have made maybe the liver cleanse will help you with your

immune system. I'd be interesting in hearing those results when you

reach them.

Good luck in your search.

Barry.

> > For me, in my case, it turned out to be the 'lesser of the two

> evils'

> > if you will.

> >

> > I was living with colic attacks 2 to 3 times a week, lost 15 lbs

by

> > flushing and was down to 155 lbs, and didn't like the thought of

> > having to flush forever to hide the pain with a coating of oil.

My

> > stone just didn't come out because it was too big and hard.

>

>

> did you every drink the pure fresh apple juice (you need about 32

oz

> a day for 2-4 week) than there are the chinese herbs that dissolve

> and break up hard stones. Did you ever try those?

>

> I did the surgery cause for me I had it with the pain and they

> weren't giving me anything stronger than loritab. If I could have

> found the other info sooner and had more support with the kids It

> would have been interesting to see how it would have turned out.

But

> honestly I felt like I needed to have this first hand experience

with

> a surgery gone bad. It has made me want to take better care of

myself

> and to avoid Medical Dr.s as much as possible. From the sounds of

it

> you and I are on differnet levels. I'm wanting to become and Master

> Herbalist and have learned about a lot of natural healings that

Dr's

> just don't believe in. I do believe that there are some very good

> Dr's but a lot of things that Dr's try to " heal or cure " you of can

> be done naturally with herbs and nature if we understand them

enough.

>

> It was actually a Chiropractor that told me I had gall problems but

> that's not his specialty so I went to my md and asked him to test

me.

> When he found out that it was a Chiropractor that suggested it he

> told me he was a quack. I trusted my MD and went on my way to

later

> end up in ER 18 months later. They found at least one gallstone and

> the Surgeon said that if the MD would have checked he would have

seen

> it. So when I first found out about it it was small enough that I

> most likely would have had success flushing it out. I didn't find

> out about the flushes until about a year before my surgery and due

to

> circumstances I wasn't able to flush more than a few times. I don't

> doubt that if I would have found this information sooner and that

MD

> would have ran test I feel that I could have saved my Gallbladder.

> But I've learned some valuable lessons from it.

> D

[Guest guest]

> D,

>

> If you found out a year before opting for surgery about the

flushing

> method why didn't you have the means to do more and attempt to save

> yourself from the operation?

There are some things you just can't do while pregnant and one of

them is the flushing.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I agree Agnes.

My advise is to try alternative methods first before opting for an

irriversible surgery.

For some people this will help them to avoid surgery. For others, it

was worth a try to go the alternative rout.

I wish success to all in their methods to improve their health.

Suzanne