Re: pain relief, cleansings

May 24, 2002

> From: " azdmarie " <nortons@...>

Hi Dawn and all,

My diet has not been far better but not perfect these last 25 years. And also

as might surprise

some of you, I'm no saint. smiles ... so there have been times I have not eaten

well. This has

not, since 1974, been in the category of eating meat, but rather... during

certain periods when

I've lapsed and eaten too much of processed foods such as as pastries. This is

not recently but

a few years ago.

One symptom I had, as a result of those transgressions, and not having been on

the juices or

eaten salads for awhile, was a pain that occurred in my side. I always presumed

it was

something in my digestion. It would come on rather suddenly and then

immediately get my

attention if you know what I mean. Sometimes I'd let out an arghhhh!!!!!!!!!

and not move or

be able to move and would try to breath and get to the bathroom or whatever till

it would go

away. It would usually not last more than a minute or two but might come back

again a few times

in the next few days or week. I would say this was about 15 years ago when this

first happened

and was the worst at that time.

What I did was to, as per Dr. 's books, start taking emenas over and over

and over and

over and they helped. They not only helped they saved me from much worse. They

helped me to

get rid of the problem. That is the most immediate thing that I did was to take

the enemas and

these were with nothing but pure water, nothing else.

The second thing I did, right away, was to get my diet back on track. Pronto!

Oh sometimes I

would dally a bit... and bingo!!! another attack... and oh god I would made sure

to get back on

it then. Anything but to have that happen again!

Well guess what. Now since I've been on this list I am thinking it wasn't

something in my

digestion or my bowels or colon but was gallstones. All that time I thought it

was something in

my digestion but it was gallstones. Now at that time I'd not been having the

juices for years

but I got back on them pronto.

I tried eating different things too but nothing worked! The attacks kept

coming! Until I HAD

to eat right! I got back on the salads again AND the juices. The juices

weren't enough by

themselves when I was not eating right. I HAD TO EAT RIGHT! Emphasis for what

my body was

telling me. It was desperation time. Do this or I was going to keep hurting

and hurting a lot

more. Watch out!!!! So you bet I did it. I got back on the salads pronto.

Grated carrots #1,

chopped celery, cucumbers, radishes, sweet red bell peppers (I hate green ones),

and whatever

else like this I could find to toss in there.

And I stopped eating bread!!! (again) ... most important! ... I really felt it

when I tried to

resist that, the attacks came back pronto.

To summarize the things I did:

#1- ememas for relief and they worked

#2- eat right! nothing but grated salads at the beginning

#3- freshly made raw vegetable juices, as much as you want and can make and

drink

Now that I think it was really a gall stone that, it doesn't change anything at

all that I did,

except I would have done the flushes too. BUT I agree with those who say you

don't need to do

them very often.

Why is this? Because, the colon is MOST important. If you are flushing the

liver every week,

and not getting it out, then you are not getting it out period! First of all

the digestion has

to be clear. So for a good liver flush my feeling (now) is to first cleanse the

colon, #2 do

the flush, #3 at least two more weeks flushing the colon again. That means a

liver flush once a

month!

So do you do nothing in the meantime? No! You cleanse the colon! (sorry of

this is graphic...

smiles... and when I say " you " I am saying me or anyone who this has some

meaning for, not

anyone in particular). Because this primarily cleansing is the most important

of all.

And, I think, and from my experience, you can relieve and get rid of gallstones

from cleansing

the colon alone, with no specialized liver flush. And I think if someone is

doing liver

flushes all the time but not cleansing the colon then it's not going to be

nearly so effective.

#1 is cleanse the colon! (funny as it seems the colon should be #2 doesn't

it...... ) .....

sorry, a little humor there.

When I got back on the juices and the salads, the pains disappeared completely.

One more thing about the pains. You can relieve them immediately, but don't

except them to

disappear immediately. Because it takes time for you to get things through your

system. If you

eat something like a sub sandwich, or anything, that you know set it off, then

expect that

you're going to have to do everything perfect for a few WEEKS to get rid of it.

The more

perfect the better. The less perfect, it will still improve but take longer, as

long as the

balance is in the right direction.

I've not had those pains for a long time thank goodness. But I am well aware of

what they feel

like and don't want them to come back. My motivation for myself is to be as

healthy as I can

be. I know how very tenuous life can be and how quickly it can be gone. Before

we know it or

can do anything about it. Here's to all of us that we have the tenacity and

inspiration to do

what we can, while and when we can, not only for ourselves but for all those we

love and cherish

and come in contact with.

Cheers and love for you all.

May 24, 2002

My diet has not been far better but not perfect these last 25 years. And

also as might surprise

some of you, I'm no saint. smiles ... so there have been times I have not

eaten well. This has

not, since 1974, been in the category of eating meat, but rather... during

certain periods when

I've lapsed and eaten too much of processed foods such as as pastries. This

is not recently but

a few years ago.

______________________

It's strange that people think that what you eat makes you a so-called saint

or whatever. Being " justifed " doesn't have anything to do with what we eat

or not. It goes in the mouth, then out again through you know where. Of

course, there's health benefits to the eating of clean meat. For example,

much health can be lost from eating pork or unclean seafood all the time, but

it still doesn't have anything to do with making a person righteous.

I eat clean meat, for example: chicken, steak, roast, cod, salmon, tuna,

turkey, and these are very healthy meats. Study at Dr. Mercola's website and

see the truth about vegetarians, about how unhealthy it is. But again, it

simply doesn't matter one way or the other. We can only do our best because

the same thing is going to happen to each of us anyway-----death!

Susie

May 24, 2002

ou are correct in everything you have said but I don't think the

person who wrote this post was actually seriously making a referrance

in a religious manner. 'I'm no saint' is only a much used slang

expression sometimes having nothing to do with the religious

suggestion for the phrase. I used to call eating the fat foods

the 'fun' foods or 'evil' foods but didn't really believe any food

was evil in itself. Context of the post should reveil purpose in this

case. Don't get confused by slang phrasing. Happens all of the time

in type. Unless of course the postee will return with a comment

otherwise. haha You never know lately in here. :-)

Barry, I already am aware of that, and thank you very, very much. I know how

what we eat, by many people, determines what we are. Well, what I'm saying

is that I'm aware of the slang. However, after some amount of time, people

start thinking this is true. This has been my experience. I experience it

all the time.

Sorry, have to go and eat now. Husband's yelling----- LET'S EAT!

Susie

May 24, 2002

Enjoy dinner and stay away from these 'sinful' foods. haha

You know, even though the food is not 'evil' in itself it sure did

cause some 'wicked' pain for me. :-)

Barry, I do know what I'm talking about, believe it or not. I know a whole

lot more than you think! I apologize because I was in a huge rush writing

the last post. So if I was misunderstood, then I do apologize.

Yahweh be with you!

Susie

May 24, 2002

Susie,

You are correct in everything you have said but I don't think the