Re: I'm in a lot of pain -- any suggestions?

[Guest guest]

I never had a gallbladder attack that was longer than 6 hours or so.

If I were you I would definitely go to the doctor and perhaps get an

ultrasound scheduled to see what is going on. I don't think it is

advisable to massage the area...I think that could do more harm than

good.

These are my opinions only...and I am new here and don't have any

experience w/liver flush, so I can't answer those questions.

I sure hope you feel better soon; I know it is miserable to have that

pain!!

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[Guest guest]

Dear Naomi,

I feel for you in your pain.

Please go to the files and links section of the group's page. You

can read the info in dieting (good or bad foods to eat for

gallbladder and liver). Adjusting your diet may considerably

alleviate the pain. After that you may have some more specific

questions. Peanut butter is a no no if you're in pain. Other foods

will also make the pain worse. cheese, beets.

You will find that after a while of eating foods which are gentler on

the gallbladder, you may begin to eat the foods which stimulate the

gallbladder and have no pain.

I am unable to tell by your letter what your pain is from or how

severe it is. It seems like a good time for you to go to a health

professional. If you're afraid of the traditional making you have

surgery, try an alternative health provider.

I did the flush the day after I had an extreme attack. My

gallbladder was sensative at the time, but I believe that that flush

( and the ones that I later did) saved me from continuing to have

attacks.

I can also say that stress can initiate an attack. Maybe the stress

contracts the muscles which in turn affect the functioning of the

gallbladder. Try some soothing herbal teas.

Best of luck in you search for health,

~Suzanne

[Guest guest]

Thanks Suzanne,

I am still in a lot of pain this is 3 full days now. I decided to

try a flush. I bought Magnesium Citrate and two large pink

grapefruits.

It is 8:00 PM and I just drank the juice from one grapfruit and then

I mixed 1/3 cup of EV olive oil with organic yougurt. I thought that

would be OK because one of the cleanses uses cream and fruit. Plus I

love having lots of olive oil with my yogurt in the AM with fresh

lemon, garlic and salt. It is like Greek Tzadziki without the

cucumbers. Do you think it is OK to mix the olive oil with yogurt?

I took about 2 ounces of the magnesuim citrate so far and I am still

in a lot of pain. I find massaging my gallbladder and liver area

helps for a short time but I just keep writhing in pain. Most of the

pain is comming from my back where I can not massage. If it gets any

worse I will go to the ER and get some pain meds.

Thanks for your help.

[Guest guest]

>Plus I am taking 50,000 IU of

>theraputic Vitamin D to help my body absorb calcium because my stores

>are low and my parathyroid is high. -Naomi H

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Are you sure? IINM, this is about 100 times the RDA.

That would be like taking 100 normal vitamin pills a day. Has some

medical person prescribed this dose?

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[Guest guest]

Hi Naomi,I have been using coptis & curcuma to stop my attacks.Even

with that it is sometimes difficult,I am learning that " what I eat &

how much I eat affects me greatly.The best after a major attack is

distilled water,this allows the system to heal a little without

further stress.I have had good luck with Ezekiel bread from the

health food stores.Oatmeal has been ok.I am avoiding everything

processed as they put many things in.Olive oil a couple times a

day.tbspn.flax oil,carrot juice.lightly steamed freshed vegatables.I

am in pain right now because I ate too much-too late & tried to add

something new to the diet.Good luck,all the best wishes.Jim

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> I am in a lot of pain right now. The last time I had an attack was

6

> weeks ago (when my husband lost his job) and prior to that was 2

> years ago after the birth of my daughter. She is almost weaned now

> so my hormones are adjusting again. Plus I am taking 50,000 IU of

> theraputic Vitamin D to help my body absorb calcium because my

stores

> are low and my parathyroid is high.

>

> I am embarrassed to say 84 hours ago I enjoyed a appetizer sampler,

> fries, onion rings, mozzarella sticks etc at 11:30 at night. The

> next AM I was fine and was not hungry. It was very hot so I

enjoyed

> a small bowl (1/2 cup) of ice cream - still no problem. For

dinner

> I had macaroni and cheese which I had made homemade with organic

> cheese, organic milk and whole wheat pasta. Right after I ate, at

> 5:30 I started having a gallbladder attack -- that was about 60

hours

> ago.

>

> The first night I did not sleep except for the about 1.5 hours - I

> took 6 showers, I took magnesium and Tylenol to try to relieve the

> pain. I made myself throw up but that did not help much. I drank

> apple juice and nothing seemed to help. I could not lie down or

even

> sit up. I had to be standing or lean over something. I got on the

> computer and read something about massaging my gallbladder and

> stomach which I did and it seemed to help but it moved the pain

from

> my gallbladder, to my left side.

>

> I have a dull pain in my back between my shoulder blades and about

2

> inches below them – like something was stuck in my back. The

> pain

> increased again last night. I feel better if I do not eat, but as

> soon as I eat the pain comes back and if I lie down it is much

> worse. I keep deep massaging where it hurts and it seems to help a

> little but not too much.

>

> Now today I am still really sore in my gallbladder area, PLUS all

> along where my liver is, and in my back and now in my lower abdomen

> too. I feel like if I have a BM it would help but that is not

> happening. I have been taking four 500 mg magnesium pills a day

and

> I do not think it is helping. I also have a lot of burping gas too

> –

> which in the past my doctor indicated was a sign of some digestive

> swelling.

>

> I don't want to go to the hospital because they will just

> schedule me

> for surgery. But I have to do something because I am in such pain

> and I need to sleep. Not to mention that I am afraid that I may

have

> something stuck, in which case I am assuming I could end up with an

> infection or be blocking my liver, pancreas etc. from functioning.

>

> I just had an organic peanut butter and jelly sandwich for lunch

and

> now I am in pain again.

>

> You folks have been helpful in the past. Here are my questions. I

> would appreciate any ideas you may have.

> 1. Any ideas on why this is lasting so long?.

>

> 2. Do you think it is my gallbladder, if so why am I getting so

> much pain on my left side, my back and along my liver? Do you

think

> I have a stone stuck?

>

> 3. Should I just do a flush now, or is it not recommended

> during an attack? (I have never done one) If so which recipe would

> you use? I am thinking olive oil and lemon and the liquid

magnesium

> (the stuff that is sold at the pharmacy to clear out a persons

> bowels. I cant remember the name)

>

> 4. What should I be eating? Everything seems to bother me right

> now and make the pain worse.

>

> 5. The magnesium does not seem to be helping can you recommend

> any other herbs that have helped you during an attack?

>

> Thanks in advance for your help.

[Guest guest]

Dear Naomi,

I would avoid the yoghurt in your cleanse until you are pain free.

The fat and lactose in yoghurt may just make the pain worse.

I've read that castor oil packs are good for the pain

~ Suzanne---

In gallstones@y..., " Naomi H " <parentsresources@a...> wrote:

>

> I am still in a lot of pain this is 3 full days now. I decided to

> try a flush. ..... with organic yougurt.

[Guest guest]

> I took about 2 ounces of the magnesuim citrate so far and I am

still

> in a lot of pain. I find massaging my gallbladder and liver area

> helps for a short time but I just keep writhing in pain. Most of

the

> pain is comming from my back where I can not massage. If it gets

any

> worse I will go to the ER and get some pain meds.

>

> Thanks for your help.

The pain you feel in your back is probably referred pain...the pain

is actually not there.

I still think it may be dangerous to massage the area...can anyone

else speak to this issue?

Please let us know how you are doing. Even if you don't go to the ER

and this blows over, you might want to consider going your PCP and

get him to order an abdominal ultrasound. I went to my PCP today

because of the problems I've been having, and I am having an

ultrasound next Tuesday.

yvonne