Guest guest Posted September 9, 2002 Report Share Posted September 9, 2002 Hi, My ultrasound, pre-GB surgery only showed what they call " sludge, " and the lab report, post surgery showed my GB was healthy, and there were no stones in my GB, but, I had your typical biliary colic/GB attack symptoms. There were stones in the bile duct causing my pain. This continued after surgery, until I did the liver flush. My point is, I believe that the information as stated on curezone website is true: The liver makes Stones!! Your GB can be healthy and still you have GB attack symptoms. The stones you described are most likely from your liver. They are exactly like the ones I passed after GB surgery during the liver flush. I'd encourage you to keep doing the flush until you're clear of stones. Adrienne skybluetoo22 wrote:I had a ultrasound Friday, the Tech. told me he could not see any stones while doing the US. I have a Dr. appt. this Tues. to review US for Gall Bladder stones. I did the liver flush last night, the olive oil and lemon juice. Before the flush, I did a juice fast with very little food (only a salad and apple in 2 days) Today, I passed a lot of green chunks. Ranging from a sesame seed size to a large raisin size. They were soft and almost transparent when put up to light. They were clumped together and ranged from neon green to dark green (mostly lime green) Definatly not hard and brown or black. I did read that olive oil and apple juice would soften them. I froze them in a plastic bag (to show the Dr.) and now they look tannish green. Do these sound like gallstones? I am not passing any more, I had a constant flow of passing them for about 4 hours. Any confirmation or info would be great. Thank you, Jenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 At or about 12:27, 09/09/02 -0700, Adrienne McLaughlin declared: =========Start of Material Being Replied to======== >My ultrasound, pre-GB surgery only showed what they call " sludge, " and >the lab report, post surgery showed my GB was healthy, and there were no >stones in my GB, but, I had your typical biliary colic/GB attack >symptoms. There were stones in the bile duct causing my pain. This >continued after surgery, until I did the liver flush. My point is, I >believe that the information as stated on curezone website is true: The >liver makes Stones!! >>>>>>>>>>>==End of Quoted Material==<<<<<<<<<<< Do I understand that the stones in your bile duct were *not* removed during surgery? If that is the case, then there would have been no reason to expect the pain to have stopped until the stones passed out of the duct. Do I understand correctly? --------------------------- IRA L. JACOBSON --------------------------- mailto:laser@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 So, obviously, the stones were still there to cause problems. Guess what his solution was? Come in for another medical procedure...an ERCP. I said, " No thanks, " and decided to give the liver flush a try. It worked. Hope that clears up any confusion. Adrienne Hi, Adrienne, Thanks! It was no confusion to me because I knew what you were talking about. I've talked to some others on here before that had stones left over. Luckily, the cleanse removed them. Take care, Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Hi, One of the points I was trying to make in my post was that the ultrasound did not pick up much in the way of stones in my GB, nor did it detect stones in the bile ducts, yet I did have stones causing problems. Ultrasound is not 100% accurate in detecting stones. I'll restate something I've posted several times in the past about my surgical experience. During surgery, my surgeon did not do a cholangiogram, which would have detected stones in the bile ducts, because there didn't appear to be any inflamation of the cystic or bile ducts. He guessed that there weren't any stones in the ducts.....bad guess. So, obviously, the stones were still there to cause problems. Guess what his solution was? Come in for another medical procedure...an ERCP. I said, " No thanks, " and decided to give the liver flush a try. It worked. Hope that clears up any confusion. Adrienne " Ira L. son " wrote:At or about 12:27, 09/09/02 -0700, Adrienne McLaughlin declared: =========Start of Material Being Replied to======== >My ultrasound, pre-GB surgery only showed what they call " sludge, " and >the lab report, post surgery showed my GB was healthy, and there were no >stones in my GB, but, I had your typical biliary colic/GB attack >symptoms. There were stones in the bile duct causing my pain. This >continued after surgery, until I did the liver flush. My point is, I >believe that the information as stated on curezone website is true: The >liver makes Stones!! >>>>>>>>>>>==End of Quoted Material==<<<<<<<<<<< Do I understand that the stones in your bile duct were *not* removed during surgery? If that is the case, then there would have been no reason to expect the pain to have stopped until the stones passed out of the duct. Do I understand correctly? --------------------------- IRA L. JACOBSON --------------------------- mailto:laser@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2002 Report Share Posted September 16, 2002 I am glad the cholangiogram was done on me. SO far I seem to be enjoying good health post gallbladder surgery. Several people have commented on how wonderful my color is. I did not know it was bad. The nausea was stomach illness of some kind and has passed. Dawn --- In gallstones@y..., Adrienne McLaughlin <adriennelynn1@y...> wrote: > > Hi, > One of the points I was trying to make in my post was that the ultrasound did not pick up much in the way of stones in my GB, nor did it detect stones in the bile ducts, yet I did have stones causing problems. Ultrasound is not 100% accurate in detecting stones. > I'll restate something I've posted several times in the past about my surgical experience. During surgery, my surgeon did not do a cholangiogram, which would have detected stones in the bile ducts, because there didn't appear to be any inflamation of the cystic or bile ducts. He guessed that there weren't any stones in the ducts.....bad guess. So, obviously, the stones were still there to cause problems. Guess what his solution was? Come in for another medical procedure...an ERCP. I said, " No thanks, " and decided to give the liver flush a try. It worked. > Hope that clears up any confusion. > Adrienne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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