Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 see the GEIPE site. maybe they can get a research project going for it? bG > A relative has just been diagnosed with Squamous Cell Carcinoma. I don't know the full extent, but he has a lump on the side of the neck and maybe on the side of abdomen. Any suggested treatments or other advice will be appreciated? > Thanks in advance, > jra > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 see the GEIPE site. maybe they can get a research project going for it? bG > A relative has just been diagnosed with Squamous Cell Carcinoma. I don't know the full extent, but he has a lump on the side of the neck and maybe on the side of abdomen. Any suggested treatments or other advice will be appreciated? > Thanks in advance, > jra > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Hi Ekaterina Here is the protocol of Dr Simoncini : Please be advised that for type of treatments requiring only dropping, washing, drinking and for psoriasis or skin cancer the supervision of a doctor is indicated. For other type of cancer the involvement of a doctor is mandatory. * 360° TAT (turn around treatment) When sodium bicarbonate administered in a cavity Lay down on the bed 2 pillows under the pelvis Turn around 90° degrees every 15 minutes Positions: supine, left and right side, prone Oral cancer 1 teaspoon sodium bicarbonate in 1 glass tepid water Taste with a finger if it's salty Lay down on the bed Rinse your mouth. Meanwhile make TAT Twice a day for six days 3 days break Make 4 times the whole cycle Warning: Rinse for a while your mouth after every meal IV 500 ml sodium bicarbonate 5% 6 days on 6 days off for 4 cycles 1st side effect: Pain or Irritation. Take 1 day break during the treatment. Rinse the mouth with salty water twice daily 2nd and 3rd side effect: Thirst and Weakness (because of sodium bicarbonate infusions). Take many drinks, lot of sugar and lot of salt in the meals Dietary supplements ie. Potassium, Magnesium, Vitamin complex etc. (K, Mg, etc.) ================================= To see interviews of Dr Simoncini : http://www.jmbblog.com/did-drsimoncini-found-the-cure-for-cancer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Two other remedies that I've heard on this list for skin cancers include: Black Salve : warns that it is hard on the skin and may leave a scar, but legal (I think) Rick Simpson " Phoenix Tears " hemp oil: applied topically for skin cancers that are not very deep. Most times does not damage skin. Can be eaten as well if cancer is too deep for topical to work well. (On youtube search for " Rick Simpson run from the cure " ... there are 7 in a series of videos about it.) Of course this may be illegal depending on where you are and if you have a doctor's prescription. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 Pamela, Not only will iodine get rid of squamous cell carincoma, but even melanoma. Dr. Simoncini of Italy uses a 7% topical solution of iodine to get rid of skin cancer of all types. For faster results, use Cansema. The recommended source for Cansema is from the patent-holder at www.altcancer.com. There are FDA fakes out there, so beware! It is nearly impossible to find 7% iodine for purchase, even on the Internet, so I suggest you make your own solution by purchasing iodine crystals and potassium iodide on eBay. You also have the flexibility of tailoring the concentration, in addition to saving money. Shipping cost is reduced because you can add your own distilled water to the mixture. Contact me personally if you want to know the exact amounts of iodine crystals, potassium iodide, and distilled water to make a 7% or even 10% solution (I would personally go for the 10% solution). Iodine treatment is slower than using zinc chloride or bloodroot preparations, but after a few months you will still see results. The advantage here is that iodine will cause less pain. Alternatively, you can use milder forms of Cansema, such as those with an Aloe-Vera base. The downside of using iodine is that it can cause severe itching. So either way, you are faced with pain and/or severe itching. Getting rid of fungus (also called cancer) is no picnic. /Israel > > My mother had several suspicious spots biopsied last week. The doctor's office called today to let her know that three were pre-cancerous and one was a squamous cell carcinoma. I don't know anything about that. Her doctor said she would need surgery to remove it and then she'd be fine. > > Is this accurate? Is there anything iodine can do for this type of skin cancer? What should she do to prevent the other three from becoming full-blown cancer? I thought it was odd that the doctor addressed only the one spot. > > Pamela > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 , I'd be very interested to learn how to make the 7% and the 10% solution. Also could you elaborate on bloodroot and zinc chloride? It might be better to pm me as this may be considered off topic. Thanks. Cheryl From: Yochanan <yburkett@...>Subject: Re: Squamous Cell Carcinomaiodine Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 1:07 AM Pamela,Not only will iodine get rid of squamous cell carincoma, but even melanoma. Dr. Simoncini of Italy uses a 7% topical solution of iodine to get rid of skin cancer of all types. For faster results, use Cansema. The recommended source for Cansema is from the patent-holder at www.altcancer. com. There are FDA fakes out there, so beware!It is nearly impossible to find 7% iodine for purchase, even on the Internet, so I suggest you make your own solution by purchasing iodine crystals and potassium iodide on eBay. You also have the flexibility of tailoring the concentration, in addition to saving money. Shipping cost is reduced because you can add your own distilled water to the mixture. Contact me personally if you want to know the exact amounts of iodine crystals, potassium iodide, and distilled water to make a 7% or even 10% solution (I would personally go for the 10% solution).Iodine treatment is slower than using zinc chloride or bloodroot preparations, but after a few months you will still see results. The advantage here is that iodine will cause less pain. Alternatively, you can use milder forms of Cansema, such as those with an Aloe-Vera base. The downside of using iodine is that it can cause severe itching. So either way, you are faced with pain and/or severe itching. Getting rid of fungus (also called cancer) is no picnic. /Israel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 Cheryl, In my estimation, the caustic zinc chloride paste found in " black salves " works because a high pH kills fungus. The normal skin is reddened, but not destroyed by the paste which melts the chitin layer of the fungus. The result is a liquid mass of spores that are ejected from the skin. A similar phenomena occurs with bloodroot paste. Iodine also destroys the protective amino acid layer(chitin)of the fungus. As for making strong iodine preparations, see below. To make a 10% STRONG IODINE TINCTURE, you need the following: • Grain alcohol (95% ethanol) • Distilled water (R.O. water okay) • Iodine crystals (I2) • Potassium iodide (KI) • Scale to measure amounts, preferably in grams • Dark glass container with a plastic top or at least some sort of insulator that does not allow the iodine to come into contact with metal (iodine destroys metal). If you use a mason jar with a metal lid, put an insulator in the lid, such as waxed paper. If you use an all-glass mason jar, and it is not dark, then store the jar in a cardboard box to keep it dark. 1. Mix 2 fluid ounces (59 ml) of distilled water with 2 fluid ounces (59 ml) of grain alcohol in a dark glass container. 2. Mix 10 grams (0.35 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution prepared in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use metal! Stir until completely mixed. 3. Add 14.2 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into contact with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty of water. Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a non-metal cover. Let it sit overnight. In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have 10% strong iodine tincture, which should only be used externally on skin cancer areas. If the skin cancer areas are inside mucus membranes or other sensitive areas, then you need a preparation of Lugol's solution instead that does not contain alcohol. To prepare a 10% LUGOL'S SOLUTION, the ratios of the elements change somewhat, since elemental iodine is not very soluble in water (it is more soluble in alcohol). Thus, a higher percentage of KI is needed. 1. Put 118 ml (4 fl. oz.) of distilled water in a dark glass container. 2. Mix 33.7 grams (1.18 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution prepared in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use metal! Stir until completely mixed. 3. Add 16.9 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into contact with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty of water. Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a non-metal cover. Let it sit overnight. In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have a 10% Lugol's solution, which can be taken internally or externally. If you choose to take the solution internally, note that the concentration is approximately 25.5 mg/drop! (Assuming the drop size is such that 70 drops make up 1 teaspoon). Note that the iodine concentrations posted on www.altcancer.com are non-standard; they are including the potassium iodide in the percent calculation. The standard Lugol's solution of 5% means that there is 5% elemental iodine in the solution and the iodide is not considered. However, when you calculate the mg/drop of iodine, the iodide is taken into account. To do this, note that iodide is 0.769 times the total KI present, the ratio of atomic weights of iodine to potassium. Then, [i + KI(0.769)]/ml = the concentration of iodine. So when the altcancer folks talk about 15% Lugol's solution, it is really only about 7% according to conventional calculations. Their products are good, including the iodine, but be aware of the inflated percentages. Proof that the 10% Lugols solution described above is truly 10%: 16.9 gr/(16.9 gr + 33.7 gr + 118 ml) = 0.10 or (10 %) A similar calculation can be performed for the strong iodine tincture. /Israel > > > From: Yochanan <yburkett@...> > Subject: Re: Squamous Cell Carcinoma > iodine > Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 1:07 AM > > > Â > > > > Pamela, > > Not only will iodine get rid of squamous cell carincoma, but even melanoma. Dr. Simoncini of Italy uses a 7% topical solution of iodine to get rid of skin cancer of all types. For faster results, use Cansema. The recommended source for Cansema is from the patent-holder at www.altcancer. com. There are FDA fakes out there, so beware! > > It is nearly impossible to find 7% iodine for purchase, even on the Internet, so I suggest you make your own solution by purchasing iodine crystals and potassium iodide on eBay. You also have the flexibility of tailoring the concentration, in addition to saving money. Shipping cost is reduced because you can add your own distilled water to the mixture. Contact me personally if you want to know the exact amounts of iodine crystals, potassium iodide, and distilled water to make a 7% or even 10% solution (I would personally go for the 10% solution). > > Iodine treatment is slower than using zinc chloride or bloodroot preparations, but after a few months you will still see results. The advantage here is that iodine will cause less pain. Alternatively, you can use milder forms of Cansema, such as those with an Aloe-Vera base. The downside of using iodine is that it can cause severe itching. So either way, you are faced with pain and/or severe itching. Getting rid of fungus (also called cancer) is no picnic. > > /Israel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 , thank you so much for this fantastic and extremely useful and helpful information. Do the crystals completely dissolve into solution, or are there leftovers? Why do you reckon that the traditional percentage was chosen? Is the traditional percentage 5% or 7%? Would you be willing to give the numbers for the traditional percentage? thank you! -- At 09:22 AM 4/24/2010, you wrote: >Cheryl, > >In my estimation, the caustic zinc chloride paste found in " black salves " >works because a high pH kills fungus. The normal skin is reddened, but not >destroyed by the paste which melts the chitin layer of the fungus. The >result is a liquid mass of spores that are ejected from the skin. A >similar phenomena occurs with bloodroot paste. Iodine also destroys the >protective amino acid layer(chitin)of the fungus. As for making strong >iodine preparations, see below. > >To make a 10% STRONG IODINE TINCTURE, you need the following: > >• Grain alcohol (95% ethanol) >• Distilled water (R.O. water okay) >• Iodine crystals (I2) >• Potassium iodide (KI) >• Scale to measure amounts, preferably in grams >• Dark glass container with a plastic top or at least some sort of >insulator that does not allow the iodine to come into contact with metal >(iodine destroys metal). If you use a mason jar with a metal lid, put an >insulator in the lid, such as waxed paper. If you use an all-glass mason >jar, and it is not dark, then store the jar in a cardboard box to keep it dark. > >1. Mix 2 fluid ounces (59 ml) of distilled water with 2 fluid ounces (59 >ml) of grain alcohol in a dark glass container. >2. Mix 10 grams (0.35 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution prepared >in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use metal! Stir >until completely mixed. >3. Add 14.2 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to >touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into >contact with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty >of water. Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a >non-metal cover. Let it sit overnight. > >In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have 10% >strong iodine tincture, which should only be used externally on skin >cancer areas. If the skin cancer areas are inside mucus membranes or other >sensitive areas, then you need a preparation of Lugol's solution instead >that does not contain alcohol. > >To prepare a 10% LUGOL'S SOLUTION, the ratios of the elements change >somewhat, since elemental iodine is not very soluble in water (it is more >soluble in alcohol). Thus, a higher percentage of KI is needed. > >1. Put 118 ml (4 fl. oz.) of distilled water in a dark glass container. >2. Mix 33.7 grams (1.18 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution >prepared in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use >metal! Stir until completely mixed. >3. Add 16.9 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to >touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into >contact with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty >of water. Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a >non-metal cover. Let it sit overnight. > >In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have a 10% >Lugol's solution, which can be taken internally or externally. If you >choose to take the solution internally, note that the concentration is >approximately 25.5 mg/drop! (Assuming the drop size is such that 70 drops >make up 1 teaspoon). > >Note that the iodine concentrations posted on www.altcancer.com are >non-standard; they are including the potassium iodide in the percent >calculation. The standard Lugol's solution of 5% means that there is 5% >elemental iodine in the solution and the iodide is not considered. >However, when you calculate the mg/drop of iodine, the iodide is taken >into account. To do this, note that iodide is 0.769 times the total KI >present, the ratio of atomic weights of iodine to potassium. Then, [i + >KI(0.769)]/ml = the concentration of iodine. So when the altcancer folks >talk about 15% Lugol's solution, it is really only about 7% according to >conventional calculations. Their products are good, including the iodine, >but be aware of the inflated percentages. > >Proof that the 10% Lugols solution described above is truly 10%: > >16.9 gr/(16.9 gr + 33.7 gr + 118 ml) = 0.10 or (10 %) A similar >calculation can be performed for the strong iodine tincture. > > /Israel > > > > > > > > > From: Yochanan <yburkett@...> > > Subject: Re: Squamous Cell Carcinoma > > iodine > > Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 1:07 AM > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > Pamela, > > > > Not only will iodine get rid of squamous cell carincoma, but even > melanoma. Dr. Simoncini of Italy uses a 7% topical solution of iodine to > get rid of skin cancer of all types. For faster results, use Cansema. The > recommended source for Cansema is from the patent-holder at > www.altcancer. com. There are FDA fakes out there, so beware! > > > > It is nearly impossible to find 7% iodine for purchase, even on the > Internet, so I suggest you make your own solution by purchasing iodine > crystals and potassium iodide on eBay. You also have the flexibility of > tailoring the concentration, in addition to saving money. Shipping cost > is reduced because you can add your own distilled water to the mixture. > Contact me personally if you want to know the exact amounts of iodine > crystals, potassium iodide, and distilled water to make a 7% or even 10% > solution (I would personally go for the 10% solution). > > > > Iodine treatment is slower than using zinc chloride or bloodroot > preparations, but after a few months you will still see results. The > advantage here is that iodine will cause less pain. Alternatively, you > can use milder forms of Cansema, such as those with an Aloe-Vera base. > The downside of using iodine is that it can cause severe itching. So > either way, you are faced with pain and/or severe itching. Getting rid of > fungus (also called cancer) is no picnic. > > > > /Israel > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/ > > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 , This info is really useful. I'm anxious to look into buying the ingredients on ebay. Just wish I could find a rather large dark glass jar. I suspect it takes a while (months) to eliminate skin cancers. Just wish I would have known this years ago before having several surgically removed. Cheryl From: Yochanan <yburkett@...>Subject: Re: Squamous Cell Carcinomaiodine Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 7:22 AM Cheryl,In my estimation, the caustic zinc chloride paste found in "black salves" works because a high pH kills fungus. The normal skin is reddened, but not destroyed by the paste which melts the chitin layer of the fungus. The result is a liquid mass of spores that are ejected from the skin. A similar phenomena occurs with bloodroot paste. Iodine also destroys the protective amino acid layer(chitin) of the fungus. As for making strong iodine preparations, see below.To make a 10% STRONG IODINE TINCTURE, you need the following:• Grain alcohol (95% ethanol)• Distilled water (R.O. water okay)• Iodine crystals (I2)• Potassium iodide (KI)• Scale to measure amounts, preferably in grams• Dark glass container with a plastic top or at least some sort of insulator that does not allow the iodine to come into contact with metal (iodine destroys metal). If you use a mason jar with a metal lid, put an insulator in the lid, such as waxed paper. If you use an all-glass mason jar, and it is not dark, then store the jar in a cardboard box to keep it dark.1. Mix 2 fluid ounces (59 ml) of distilled water with 2 fluid ounces (59 ml) of grain alcohol in a dark glass container.2. Mix 10 grams (0.35 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution prepared in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use metal! Stir until completely mixed.3. Add 14.2 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into contact with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty of water. Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a non-metal cover. Let it sit overnight.In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have 10% strong iodine tincture, which should only be used externally on skin cancer areas. If the skin cancer areas are inside mucus membranes or other sensitive areas, then you need a preparation of Lugol's solution instead that does not contain alcohol.To prepare a 10% LUGOL'S SOLUTION, the ratios of the elements change somewhat, since elemental iodine is not very soluble in water (it is more soluble in alcohol). Thus, a higher percentage of KI is needed.1. Put 118 ml (4 fl. oz.) of distilled water in a dark glass container.2. Mix 33.7 grams (1.18 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution prepared in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use metal! Stir until completely mixed.3. Add 16.9 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into contact with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty of water. Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a non-metal cover. Let it sit overnight.In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have a 10% Lugol's solution, which can be taken internally or externally. If you choose to take the solution internally, note that the concentration is approximately 25.5 mg/drop! (Assuming the drop size is such that 70 drops make up 1 teaspoon).Note that the iodine concentrations posted on www.altcancer. com are non-standard; they are including the potassium iodide in the percent calculation. The standard Lugol's solution of 5% means that there is 5% elemental iodine in the solution and the iodide is not considered. However, when you calculate the mg/drop of iodine, the iodide is taken into account. To do this, note that iodide is 0.769 times the total KI present, the ratio of atomic weights of iodine to potassium. Then, [i + KI(0.769)]/ml = the concentration of iodine. So when the altcancer folks talk about 15% Lugol's solution, it is really only about 7% according to conventional calculations. Their products are good, including the iodine, but be aware of the inflated percentages.Proof that the 10% Lugols solution described above is truly 10%:16.9 gr/(16.9 gr + 33.7 gr + 118 ml) = 0.10 or (10 %) A similar calculation can be performed for the strong iodine tincture. /Israel>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 , The crystals do completely dissolve in the solution, given the percentages specified. It does take all night, however. The traditional Lugol's percentage is 5%, which means that the elemental iodine represents that percentage of the solution. Traditional Lugol's solution contains 5 grams of elemental iodine and 10 grams of potassium iodine in 85 ml of distilled water. Thus, [5 gr/(5 gr. + 10 gr. + 85 ml)] x 100 = 5%. The amount of iodine and iodide is (5 gr + 0.769*10 gr)/100 ml = 126.9 mg/ml; this ratio is used to calculate the mg/drop. A standard U.S. dropper contains 70 drops/teaspoon, and one teaspoon = 4.93 ml, so that: 126.9 mg/ml x 4.93 ml/70 drops (U.S.) = 8.94 mg/drop (U.S. drops) If a metric drop is used, then noting there are 100 metric drops/teaspoon, then 126.9 mg/ml x 4.93 ml/100 drops(metric) = 6.25 mg/drop (metric drops) The latter figure is commonly given in standard references. However, you must check for yourself to see how many drops are in a teaspoon according to the dropper you are using, and at what angle you are holding the dropper. Maximum drop size is accomplished by holding the dropper vertically. The traditional percentages were probably based on the difficulty in getting iodine crystals into solution, especially in the water-based Lugol's solution. You can't just dump elemental iodine into water and expect it all to dissolve. Potassium iodide and/or alcohol aids in its going into solution. /Israel > > > > > > > > > From: Yochanan <yburkett@> > > > Subject: Re: Squamous Cell Carcinoma > > > iodine > > > Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 1:07 AM > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > Pamela, > > > > > > Not only will iodine get rid of squamous cell carincoma, but even > > melanoma. Dr. Simoncini of Italy uses a 7% topical solution of iodine to > > get rid of skin cancer of all types. For faster results, use Cansema. The > > recommended source for Cansema is from the patent-holder at > > www.altcancer. com. There are FDA fakes out there, so beware! > > > > > > It is nearly impossible to find 7% iodine for purchase, even on the > > Internet, so I suggest you make your own solution by purchasing iodine > > crystals and potassium iodide on eBay. You also have the flexibility of > > tailoring the concentration, in addition to saving money. Shipping cost > > is reduced because you can add your own distilled water to the mixture. > > Contact me personally if you want to know the exact amounts of iodine > > crystals, potassium iodide, and distilled water to make a 7% or even 10% > > solution (I would personally go for the 10% solution). > > > > > > Iodine treatment is slower than using zinc chloride or bloodroot > > preparations, but after a few months you will still see results. The > > advantage here is that iodine will cause less pain. Alternatively, you > > can use milder forms of Cansema, such as those with an Aloe-Vera base. > > The downside of using iodine is that it can cause severe itching. So > > either way, you are faced with pain and/or severe itching. Getting rid of > > fungus (also called cancer) is no picnic. > > > > > > /Israel > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > >group IodineOT/ > > > > > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 Cheryl, I got lucky and found a dark brown jar with a plastic screw cap that came from the Wheat Germ oil I purchased in the past. It is about 450 ml (15 fl. oz.) in volume. The rest I put in all-glass sealed containers in a sealed cardboard box to keep out the light. It is not a good idea to store iodine in dropper bottles; the iodine will destroy the dropper in a year or two; it becomes hard and brittle. /Israel > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 Hi Cheryl, You can buy the bottles on line. Speciality Bottle has all sizes.Nonie > >> > > > ,> >  > > This info is really useful. I'm anxious to look into buying the ingredients on ebay. Just wish I could find a rather large dark glass jar. > >  > > I suspect it takes a while (months) to eliminate skin cancers. Just wish I would have known this years ago before having several surgically removed.> >  > > Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/supply/glass_bottles.html http://www.amazon.com/OUNCE-MOUTH-AMBER-GLASS-BOTTLE/dp/B001DBJK2Y search term: amber glass jar There are actually a number of suppliers, but most of them will only sell full cases. I have a vitamin bottle I plan to use. Also, some natural food stores sell empty amber bottles for their bulk products, but not Whole Foods. -- >This info is really useful. I'm anxious to look into buying the >ingredients on ebay. Just wish I could find a rather large dark glass jar. > >I suspect it takes a while (months) to eliminate skin cancers. Just wish >I would have known this years ago before having several surgically removed. > >Cheryl ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 ( or anyone who knows ), I've been using a dropper for a few months that I just calibrated after reading your post below. I was surprised to find that only about 50 drops seems to equal 1 teaspoon. I'm using Lugol's 2%. For months I've been assuming that one drop from my dropper is 2.5 mg of iodine. But after seeing that 50 drops equals 1 tsp in my case, I'm thinking that it must be significantly higher. Can someone tell me how many milligrams of iodine I'm getting in one drop of Lugol's 2% with my dropper? I think the answer is 5 mg per drop, but can someone please verify? Thanks so much, Sherry > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Yochanan <yburkett@> > > > > Subject: Re: Squamous Cell Carcinoma > > > > iodine > > > > Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 1:07 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pamela, > > > > > > > > Not only will iodine get rid of squamous cell carincoma, but even > > > melanoma. Dr. Simoncini of Italy uses a 7% topical solution of iodine to > > > get rid of skin cancer of all types. For faster results, use Cansema. The > > > recommended source for Cansema is from the patent-holder at > > > www.altcancer. com. There are FDA fakes out there, so beware! > > > > > > > > It is nearly impossible to find 7% iodine for purchase, even on the > > > Internet, so I suggest you make your own solution by purchasing iodine > > > crystals and potassium iodide on eBay. You also have the flexibility of > > > tailoring the concentration, in addition to saving money. Shipping cost > > > is reduced because you can add your own distilled water to the mixture. > > > Contact me personally if you want to know the exact amounts of iodine > > > crystals, potassium iodide, and distilled water to make a 7% or even 10% > > > solution (I would personally go for the 10% solution). > > > > > > > > Iodine treatment is slower than using zinc chloride or bloodroot > > > preparations, but after a few months you will still see results. The > > > advantage here is that iodine will cause less pain. Alternatively, you > > > can use milder forms of Cansema, such as those with an Aloe-Vera base. > > > The downside of using iodine is that it can cause severe itching. So > > > either way, you are faced with pain and/or severe itching. Getting rid of > > > fungus (also called cancer) is no picnic. > > > > > > > > /Israel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > > >group IodineOT/ > > > > > > > > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 I've got a few small ones, but not a large stock jar. Thanks. From: Baker <vbaker@...>Subject: Re: Re: Squamous Cell Carcinomaiodine Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 9:55 PM http://www.mountain roseherbs. com/supply/ glass_bottles. htmlhttp://www.amazon. com/OUNCE- MOUTH-AMBER- GLASS-BOTTLE/ dp/B001DBJK2Ysearch term: amber glass jarThere are actually a number of suppliers, but most of them will only sell full cases. I have a vitamin bottle I plan to use. Also, some natural food stores sell empty amber bottles for their bulk products, but not Whole Foods.-->This info is really useful. I'm anxious to look into buying the >ingredients on ebay. Just wish I could find a rather large dark glass jar.>>I suspect it takes a while (months) to eliminate skin cancers. Just wish >I would have known this years ago before having several surgically removed.>>Cheryl~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 Sherry, the mg/drop using your 50-drop dropper is 5.3 mg/drop to be exact. /Israel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Yochanan <yburkett@> > > > > > Subject: Re: Squamous Cell Carcinoma > > > > > iodine > > > > > Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 1:07 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pamela, > > > > > > > > > > Not only will iodine get rid of squamous cell carincoma, but even > > > > melanoma. Dr. Simoncini of Italy uses a 7% topical solution of iodine to > > > > get rid of skin cancer of all types. For faster results, use Cansema. The > > > > recommended source for Cansema is from the patent-holder at > > > > www.altcancer. com. There are FDA fakes out there, so beware! > > > > > > > > > > It is nearly impossible to find 7% iodine for purchase, even on the > > > > Internet, so I suggest you make your own solution by purchasing iodine > > > > crystals and potassium iodide on eBay. You also have the flexibility of > > > > tailoring the concentration, in addition to saving money. Shipping cost > > > > is reduced because you can add your own distilled water to the mixture. > > > > Contact me personally if you want to know the exact amounts of iodine > > > > crystals, potassium iodide, and distilled water to make a 7% or even 10% > > > > solution (I would personally go for the 10% solution). > > > > > > > > > > Iodine treatment is slower than using zinc chloride or bloodroot > > > > preparations, but after a few months you will still see results. The > > > > advantage here is that iodine will cause less pain. Alternatively, you > > > > can use milder forms of Cansema, such as those with an Aloe-Vera base. > > > > The downside of using iodine is that it can cause severe itching. So > > > > either way, you are faced with pain and/or severe itching. Getting rid of > > > > fungus (also called cancer) is no picnic. > > > > > > > > > > /Israel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > > > >group IodineOT/ > > > > > > > > > > > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > > > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > >Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2832 - Release Date: 04/24/10 > > > >01:31:00 > > > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > > --A.J. Muste > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Yochanan <yburkett@> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Squamous Cell Carcinoma > > > > > > iodine > > > > > > Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 1:07 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pamela, > > > > > > > > > > > > Not only will iodine get rid of squamous cell carincoma, but even > > > > > melanoma. Dr. Simoncini of Italy uses a 7% topical solution of iodine to > > > > > get rid of skin cancer of all types. For faster results, use Cansema. The > > > > > recommended source for Cansema is from the patent-holder at > > > > > www.altcancer. com. There are FDA fakes out there, so beware! > > > > > > > > > > > > It is nearly impossible to find 7% iodine for purchase, even on the > > > > > Internet, so I suggest you make your own solution by purchasing iodine > > > > > crystals and potassium iodide on eBay. You also have the flexibility of > > > > > tailoring the concentration, in addition to saving money. Shipping cost > > > > > is reduced because you can add your own distilled water to the mixture. > > > > > Contact me personally if you want to know the exact amounts of iodine > > > > > crystals, potassium iodide, and distilled water to make a 7% or even 10% > > > > > solution (I would personally go for the 10% solution). > > > > > > > > > > > > Iodine treatment is slower than using zinc chloride or bloodroot > > > > > preparations, but after a few months you will still see results. The > > > > > advantage here is that iodine will cause less pain. Alternatively, you > > > > > can use milder forms of Cansema, such as those with an Aloe-Vera base. > > > > > The downside of using iodine is that it can cause severe itching. So > > > > > either way, you are faced with pain and/or severe itching. Getting rid of > > > > > fungus (also called cancer) is no picnic. > > > > > > > > > > > > /Israel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > > > > >group IodineOT/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > >Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2832 - Release Date: 04/24/10 > > > > >01:31:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > > > --A.J. Muste > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 , Thanks for the helpful information on STRONG IODINE TINCTURE. I have found the items on ebay to make this but don't know where to get the Grain alcohol (95% ethanol), what do you suggest. Thanks, Sherry S > > To make a 10% STRONG IODINE TINCTURE, you need the following: > > • Grain alcohol (95% ethanol) > • Distilled water (R.O. water okay) > • Iodine crystals (I2) > • Potassium iodide (KI) > • Scale to measure amounts, preferably in grams > • Dark glass container with a plastic top or at least some sort of insulator that does not allow the iodine to come into contact with metal (iodine destroys metal). If you use a mason jar with a metal lid, put an insulator in the lid, such as waxed paper. If you use an all-glass mason jar, and it is not dark, then store the jar in a cardboard box to keep it dark. > > 1. Mix 2 fluid ounces (59 ml) of distilled water with 2 fluid ounces (59 ml) of grain alcohol in a dark glass container. > 2. Mix 10 grams (0.35 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution prepared in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use metal! Stir until completely mixed. > 3. Add 14.2 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into contact with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty of water. Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a non-metal cover. Let it sit overnight. > > In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have 10% strong iodine tincture, which should only be used externally on skin cancer areas. If the skin cancer areas are inside mucus membranes or other sensitive areas, then you need a preparation of Lugol's solution instead that does not contain alcohol. > > To prepare a 10% LUGOL'S SOLUTION, the ratios of the elements change somewhat, since elemental iodine is not very soluble in water (it is more soluble in alcohol). Thus, a higher percentage of KI is needed. > > 1. Put 118 ml (4 fl. oz.) of distilled water in a dark glass container. > 2. Mix 33.7 grams (1.18 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution prepared in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use metal! Stir until completely mixed. > 3. Add 16.9 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into contact with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty of water. Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a non-metal cover. Let it sit overnight. > > In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have a 10% Lugol's solution, which can be taken internally or externally. If you choose to take the solution internally, note that the concentration is approximately 25.5 mg/drop! (Assuming the drop size is such that 70 drops make up 1 teaspoon). > > Note that the iodine concentrations posted on www.altcancer.com are non-standard; they are including the potassium iodide in the percent calculation. The standard Lugol's solution of 5% means that there is 5% elemental iodine in the solution and the iodide is not considered. However, when you calculate the mg/drop of iodine, the iodide is taken into account. To do this, note that iodide is 0.769 times the total KI present, the ratio of atomic weights of iodine to potassium. Then, [i + KI(0.769)]/ml = the concentration of iodine. So when the altcancer folks talk about 15% Lugol's solution, it is really only about 7% according to conventional calculations. Their products are good, including the iodine, but be aware of the inflated percentages. > > Proof that the 10% Lugols solution described above is truly 10%: > > 16.9 gr/(16.9 gr + 33.7 gr + 118 ml) = 0.10 or (10 %) A similar calculation can be performed for the strong iodine tincture. > > /Israel > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 If Everclear is legal in your state (or country) that will work. It is 95%. It is illegal in some states in the USA. I know in California it is legal to be sold for tincturing but not drinking, but in Louisiana it is legal period. -- At 04:25 PM 4/25/2010, you wrote: >, >Thanks for the helpful information on STRONG IODINE TINCTURE. I have >found the items on ebay to make this but don't know where to get the >Grain alcohol (95% ethanol), what do you suggest. >Thanks, >Sherry S > > > > > > To make a 10% STRONG IODINE TINCTURE, you need the following: > > > > • Grain alcohol (95% ethanol) > > • Distilled water (R.O. water okay) > > • Iodine crystals (I2) > > • Potassium iodide (KI) > > • Scale to measure amounts, preferably in grams > > • Dark glass container with a plastic top or at least some sort of > insulator that does not allow the iodine to come into contact with metal > (iodine destroys metal). If you use a mason jar with a metal lid, put an > insulator in the lid, such as waxed paper. If you use an all-glass mason > jar, and it is not dark, then store the jar in a cardboard box to keep it dark. > > > > 1. Mix 2 fluid ounces (59 ml) of distilled water with 2 fluid ounces > (59 ml) of grain alcohol in a dark glass container. > > 2. Mix 10 grams (0.35 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution > prepared in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use > metal! Stir until completely mixed. > > 3. Add 14.2 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not > to touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into > contact with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty > of water. Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a > non-metal cover. Let it sit overnight. > > > > In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have 10% > strong iodine tincture, which should only be used externally on skin > cancer areas. If the skin cancer areas are inside mucus membranes or > other sensitive areas, then you need a preparation of Lugol's solution > instead that does not contain alcohol. > > > > To prepare a 10% LUGOL'S SOLUTION, the ratios of the elements change > somewhat, since elemental iodine is not very soluble in water (it is more > soluble in alcohol). Thus, a higher percentage of KI is needed. > > > > 1. Put 118 ml (4 fl. oz.) of distilled water in a dark glass container. > > 2. Mix 33.7 grams (1.18 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution > prepared in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use > metal! Stir until completely mixed. > > 3. Add 16.9 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not > to touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into > contact with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty > of water. Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a > non-metal cover. Let it sit overnight. > > > > In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have a > 10% Lugol's solution, which can be taken internally or externally. If you > choose to take the solution internally, note that the concentration is > approximately 25.5 mg/drop! (Assuming the drop size is such that 70 drops > make up 1 teaspoon). > > > > Note that the iodine concentrations posted on www.altcancer.com are > non-standard; they are including the potassium iodide in the percent > calculation. The standard Lugol's solution of 5% means that there is 5% > elemental iodine in the solution and the iodide is not considered. > However, when you calculate the mg/drop of iodine, the iodide is taken > into account. To do this, note that iodide is 0.769 times the total KI > present, the ratio of atomic weights of iodine to potassium. Then, [i + > KI(0.769)]/ml = the concentration of iodine. So when the altcancer folks > talk about 15% Lugol's solution, it is really only about 7% according to > conventional calculations. Their products are good, including the iodine, > but be aware of the inflated percentages. > > > > Proof that the 10% Lugols solution described above is truly 10%: > > > > 16.9 gr/(16.9 gr + 33.7 gr + 118 ml) = 0.10 or (10 %) A similar > calculation can be performed for the strong iodine tincture. > > > > /Israel > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/ > > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 Sherry, Here in Israel, you can purchase 95% Ethanol in any supermarket. Perhaps you can try a liquor store elsewhere. If you cannot locate it, you can substitute 100-proof Vodka (which is 50% water and 50% ethanol (grain) alcohol). /Israel > > , > Thanks for the helpful information on STRONG IODINE TINCTURE. I have found the items on ebay to make this but don't know where to get the > Grain alcohol (95% ethanol), what do you suggest. > Thanks, > Sherry S > > > > > > To make a 10% STRONG IODINE TINCTURE, you need the following: > > > > • Grain alcohol (95% ethanol) > > • Distilled water (R.O. water okay) > > • Iodine crystals (I2) > > • Potassium iodide (KI) > > • Scale to measure amounts, preferably in grams > > • Dark glass container with a plastic top or at least some sort of insulator that does not allow the iodine to come into contact with metal (iodine destroys metal). If you use a mason jar with a metal lid, put an insulator in the lid, such as waxed paper. If you use an all-glass mason jar, and it is not dark, then store the jar in a cardboard box to keep it dark. > > > > 1. Mix 2 fluid ounces (59 ml) of distilled water with 2 fluid ounces (59 ml) of grain alcohol in a dark glass container. > > 2. Mix 10 grams (0.35 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution prepared in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use metal! Stir until completely mixed. > > 3. Add 14.2 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into contact with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty of water. Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a non-metal cover. Let it sit overnight. > > > > In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have 10% strong iodine tincture, which should only be used externally on skin cancer areas. If the skin cancer areas are inside mucus membranes or other sensitive areas, then you need a preparation of Lugol's solution instead that does not contain alcohol. > > > > To prepare a 10% LUGOL'S SOLUTION, the ratios of the elements change somewhat, since elemental iodine is not very soluble in water (it is more soluble in alcohol). Thus, a higher percentage of KI is needed. > > > > 1. Put 118 ml (4 fl. oz.) of distilled water in a dark glass container. > > 2. Mix 33.7 grams (1.18 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution prepared in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use metal! Stir until completely mixed. > > 3. Add 16.9 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into contact with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty of water. Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a non-metal cover. Let it sit overnight. > > > > In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have a 10% Lugol's solution, which can be taken internally or externally. If you choose to take the solution internally, note that the concentration is approximately 25.5 mg/drop! (Assuming the drop size is such that 70 drops make up 1 teaspoon). > > > > Note that the iodine concentrations posted on www.altcancer.com are non-standard; they are including the potassium iodide in the percent calculation. The standard Lugol's solution of 5% means that there is 5% elemental iodine in the solution and the iodide is not considered. However, when you calculate the mg/drop of iodine, the iodide is taken into account. To do this, note that iodide is 0.769 times the total KI present, the ratio of atomic weights of iodine to potassium. Then, [i + KI(0.769)]/ml = the concentration of iodine. So when the altcancer folks talk about 15% Lugol's solution, it is really only about 7% according to conventional calculations. Their products are good, including the iodine, but be aware of the inflated percentages. > > > > Proof that the 10% Lugols solution described above is truly 10%: > > > > 16.9 gr/(16.9 gr + 33.7 gr + 118 ml) = 0.10 or (10 %) A similar calculation can be performed for the strong iodine tincture. > > > > /Israel > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 , Thanks for the reply, mentioned Everclear 190 proof and we do have that in our state. Another question.... do you know of any natural cures for fingernail fungus which I recently developed. I have been on Iodoral for the last 4 months. Sherry S > > > > , > > Thanks for the helpful information on STRONG IODINE TINCTURE. I have found the items on ebay to make this but don't know where to get the > > Grain alcohol (95% ethanol), what do you suggest. > > Thanks, > > Sherry S > > > > > > > > > > To make a 10% STRONG IODINE TINCTURE, you need the following: > > > > > > • Grain alcohol (95% ethanol) > > > • Distilled water (R.O. water okay) > > > • Iodine crystals (I2) > > > • Potassium iodide (KI) > > > • Scale to measure amounts, preferably in grams > > > • Dark glass container with a plastic top or at least some sort of insulator that does not allow the iodine to come into contact with metal (iodine destroys metal). If you use a mason jar with a metal lid, put an insulator in the lid, such as waxed paper. If you use an all-glass mason jar, and it is not dark, then store the jar in a cardboard box to keep it dark. > > > > > > 1. Mix 2 fluid ounces (59 ml) of distilled water with 2 fluid ounces (59 ml) of grain alcohol in a dark glass container. > > > 2. Mix 10 grams (0.35 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution prepared in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use metal! Stir until completely mixed. > > > 3. Add 14.2 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into contact with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty of water. Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a non-metal cover. Let it sit overnight. > > > > > > In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have 10% strong iodine tincture, which should only be used externally on skin cancer areas. If the skin cancer areas are inside mucus membranes or other sensitive areas, then you need a preparation of Lugol's solution instead that does not contain alcohol. > > > > > > To prepare a 10% LUGOL'S SOLUTION, the ratios of the elements change somewhat, since elemental iodine is not very soluble in water (it is more soluble in alcohol). Thus, a higher percentage of KI is needed. > > > > > > 1. Put 118 ml (4 fl. oz.) of distilled water in a dark glass container. > > > 2. Mix 33.7 grams (1.18 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution prepared in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use metal! Stir until completely mixed. > > > 3. Add 16.9 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into contact with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty of water. Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a non-metal cover. Let it sit overnight. > > > > > > In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have a 10% Lugol's solution, which can be taken internally or externally. If you choose to take the solution internally, note that the concentration is approximately 25.5 mg/drop! (Assuming the drop size is such that 70 drops make up 1 teaspoon). > > > > > > Note that the iodine concentrations posted on www.altcancer.com are non-standard; they are including the potassium iodide in the percent calculation. The standard Lugol's solution of 5% means that there is 5% elemental iodine in the solution and the iodide is not considered. However, when you calculate the mg/drop of iodine, the iodide is taken into account. To do this, note that iodide is 0.769 times the total KI present, the ratio of atomic weights of iodine to potassium. Then, [i + KI(0.769)]/ml = the concentration of iodine. So when the altcancer folks talk about 15% Lugol's solution, it is really only about 7% according to conventional calculations. Their products are good, including the iodine, but be aware of the inflated percentages. > > > > > > Proof that the 10% Lugols solution described above is truly 10%: > > > > > > 16.9 gr/(16.9 gr + 33.7 gr + 118 ml) = 0.10 or (10 %) A similar calculation can be performed for the strong iodine tincture. > > > > > > /Israel > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 I eliminated moles and brown spots with 5% Lugols over a period of several weeks. Just mixing up 10% would work better I'm sure. I suppose the alcohol is to burn them up faster? If you are diluting the 95% Ethanol with an equal amount of water, (in that recipe) I would think 50% could be used instead - and not diluted. Most people can buy 50% alcohol - or Vodka. Tammy Re: Squamous Cell Carcinoma ,Thanks for the reply, mentioned Everclear 190 proof and we do have that in our state. Another question.... do you know of any natural cures for fingernail fungus which I recently developed. I have been on Iodoral for the last 4 months.Sherry S> >> > ,> > Thanks for the helpful information on STRONG IODINE TINCTURE. I have found the items on ebay to make this but don't know where to get the > > Grain alcohol (95% ethanol), what do you suggest.> > Thanks,> > Sherry S> > > > > > > > > > To make a 10% STRONG IODINE TINCTURE, you need the following:> > > > > > . Grain alcohol (95% ethanol)> > > . Distilled water (R.O. water okay)> > > . Iodine crystals (I2)> > > . Potassium iodide (KI)> > > . Scale to measure amounts, preferably in grams> > > . Dark glass container with a plastic top or at least some sort of insulator that does not allow the iodine to come into contact with metal (iodine destroys metal). If you use a mason jar with a metal lid, put an insulator in the lid, such as waxed paper. If you use an all-glass mason jar, and it is not dark, then store the jar in a cardboard box to keep it dark.> > > > > > 1. Mix 2 fluid ounces (59 ml) of distilled water with 2 fluid ounces (59 ml) of grain alcohol in a dark glass container.> > > 2. Mix 10 grams (0.35 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution prepared in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use metal! Stir until completely mixed.> > > 3. Add 14.2 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into contact with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty of water. Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a non-metal cover. Let it sit overnight.> > > > > > In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have 10% strong iodine tincture, which should only be used externally on skin cancer areas. If the skin cancer areas are inside mucus membranes or other sensitive areas, then you need a preparation of Lugol's solution instead that does not contain alcohol.> > > > > > To prepare a 10% LUGOL'S SOLUTION, the ratios of the elements change somewhat, since elemental iodine is not very soluble in water (it is more soluble in alcohol). Thus, a higher percentage of KI is needed.> > > > > > 1. Put 118 ml (4 fl. oz.) of distilled water in a dark glass container.> > > 2. Mix 33.7 grams (1.18 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution prepared in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use metal! Stir until completely mixed.> > > 3. Add 16.9 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into contact with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty of water. Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a non-metal cover. Let it sit overnight.> > > > > > In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have a 10% Lugol's solution, which can be taken internally or externally. If you choose to take the solution internally, note that the concentration is approximately 25.5 mg/drop! (Assuming the drop size is such that 70 drops make up 1 teaspoon).> > > > > > Note that the iodine concentrations posted on www.altcancer.com are non-standard; they are including the potassium iodide in the percent calculation. The standard Lugol's solution of 5% means that there is 5% elemental iodine in the solution and the iodide is not considered. However, when you calculate the mg/drop of iodine, the iodide is taken into account. To do this, note that iodide is 0.769 times the total KI present, the ratio of atomic weights of iodine to potassium. Then, [i + KI(0.769)]/ml = the concentration of iodine. So when the altcancer folks talk about 15% Lugol's solution, it is really only about 7% according to conventional calculations. Their products are good, including the iodine, but be aware of the inflated percentages.> > > > > > Proof that the 10% Lugols solution described above is truly 10%:> > > > > > 16.9 gr/(16.9 gr + 33.7 gr + 118 ml) = 0.10 or (10 %) A similar calculation can be performed for the strong iodine tincture.> > > > > > /Israel> > > > > >> >>------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 I have a squamous cell carcinoma under my tongue. It is into the base and side of my tongue as well as the floor of mouth. So far Dr.'s say they think it is stage 2 or 3. I'm scheduled for a PET scan to determine extent, but Dr.'s are suggesting radical surgery and 6-8 weeks radiation. Also giving me about a 60% chance. If it got into the jaw bone, I'm in really big trouble and the outlook is much worse. I have been on the Bill protocol for 1 month and it seems to have gotten somewhat worse in that time. (It may have gotten worse anyway?) This protocol includes: Flax oil/cottage cheese daily, Vegan diet with mostly raw veggies (I emulsify them due to difficulty eating); 20 - 500mg Barley pills; Beta-1, 3D Glucan; Daily Advantage vitamin/mineral packets; and Vitamin C w/L-lysine and L-proline, taken with green tea extract. I have difficulty getting a good saliva sample to test pH, but it seems to only be about 6.2 - 6.4. I would like to bring the pH up more. Does anyone have experience with this type cancer? I would like to pursue alternative therapy, but would not be able to afford a clinic. (Unemployed without insurance and very short on money.) Thanks for any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 I have had good results using LDN and a low sugar diet with some sort of skin cancer (not sure what type). LDN is cheap at least. Good luck and God bless! http://www.westonaprice.org/modern-diseases/cancer/1834-a-holistic-approach-to-c\ ancer.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 maybe black salve From: Leonard Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 The most effective affordable remedies I know of for squamous cell carcinoma (SCC): Avé (www.americanbiosciences.com/ave.asp), artemether, quercetin, curcumin, selenium; cimetidine (Tagamet), Squalamine (topical) I would certainly use Ave (fermented wheat germ product) if I could afford it, but for people who can't, I heard that rejuvelac is similar. Does anyone know how true that is? Leonard Posted by: " terrywest@... " I have a squamous cell carcinoma under my tongue. It is into the base and side of my tongue as well as the floor of mouth. So far Dr.'s say they think it is stage 2 or 3. I'm scheduled for a PET scan to determine extent, but Dr.'s are suggesting radical surgery and 6-8 weeks radiation. Also giving me about a 60% chance. If it got into the jaw bone, I'm in really big trouble and the outlook is much worse. I have been on the Bill protocol for 1 month and it seems to have gotten somewhat worse in that time. (It may have gotten worse anyway?) This protocol includes: Flax oil/cottage cheese daily, Vegan diet with mostly raw veggies (I emulsify them due to difficulty eating); 20 - 500mg Barley pills; Beta-1, 3D Glucan; Daily Advantage vitamin/mineral packets; and Vitamin C w/L-lysine and L-proline, taken with green tea extract. I have difficulty getting a good saliva sample to test pH, but it seems to only be about 6.2 - 6.4. I would like to bring the pH up more. Does anyone have experience with this type cancer? I would like to pursue alternative therapy, but would not be able to afford a clinic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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