Re: Has anyone heard from Jim McElroy?

[Guest guest]

Hello Roze,

I wrote Jim couple of times and he didn't answer. I hope he is fine but may be

he is in the hospital. He said he had only couple of months to live. I just pray

he'll be fine

>

> Last we heard from him, he was in a lot of abdominal pain...has anyone heard

from him since????

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, I never post but am an avid reader (I have cancer and you guys are

awesome).

Is this the Jim who was so involved in the Casey case? he was on TV

during the search for Caylee and became quite a hero in that community

because he was terminal and very sick but went down and searched for

Caylee.. His full name rings a bell to me. I do have info if this is him.

avelinedearriba wrote:

Hello Roze,

> I wrote Jim couple of times and he didn't answer. I hope he is fine but may be

he is in the hospital. He said he had only couple of months to live. I just pray

he'll be fine

[Guest guest]

Jim sent me an e-mail from hospice on June 23rd saying that hospice

was denying him TPN because " it was curative, not palliative. " He

felt very frustrated as he was quite determined.

At 09:06 AM 7/9/2009, you wrote:

>Last we heard from him, he was in a lot of abdominal pain...has

>anyone heard from him since????

[Guest guest]

I had hoped that Jim would come on and speak for himself. He responded to an

email I sent him about two weeks ago.

I think that the best we can do at this point is to continue to send him good

thoughts and prayers (if you are so inclined).

ar

[Guest guest]

Roz,

 

I spoke with Jim on the telephone last night and I told him many people care

about him and were concerned. I asked if he wanted me to rely anything to the

group. He said to let everyone know he has had a good last week and July 4th and

has been spending time with his family. He so appreciates all the love and

support from everyone. He said he would be getting back on the site soon.

 

 

Sincerely,

 

Dorr

[Guest guest]

Where is Jim now ?

At home? Hospital?

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

Thank you all very much for your love and concern! I will state unequivivably

that without this support would not be alive today, or at the very least I would

be completely mentally incapacitated with fear.

I love and care deeply about every one of you, even those that I have " tangled

with " a bit in the past.

For those that don't know me very well, I started hanging out on this board

about 8 months ago to try to find a solution to my stage 4 colon cancer. For

quite awhile I was doing quite well! I had sort of developed my own protocol

that consisted of some heavy hitters including LDN, Artemix, Sutherlandia OPC,

IP6, and various other " lighter " supplements to help back them up.

Everything seemed to be going quite well until about Easter, when I suddenly and

unexpectedly started experiencing severe pain in my gut. A CT scan revealed

that there were mets in my mesentary area of my gut that were likely cutting off

the blood supply to my intestinges, giving fairly severe angina-like pains, only

with intestinal origins and not heart origins.

WTF? Where did these come from and why did they appear out of the blue, without

much warning?

So I've tried a little of everything to zero in on their causes. I tried

anti-spasmotics. I tried cutting out all supplements for a week.

I tried juice fasts. I tried playing around with various levels of herbs and

supplements.

I tried seeing two local naturopaths to help, and neither was much help.

(Sigh). And for those of you on this board who are naturopaths or

chioropractics, PLEASE rest easy -- I don't sue people! I think

erroneously got that impression many months ago that let to some friction

between us.

I am now, unfortunately, reduced to taking some powerful pain meds (oxycodone

via patch and pill) and one tranquilizer every night to help me sleep. This

means I can no longer taks LDN, because you cannot take LDN and opiate based

pain pills at the same time.

So I am kind of in retreat mode.

I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE for failing to keep everyone informed on this board! You

all are THE BEST!!!! BAR NONE. I have come to love you all, even those few

with ideas I consider a bit out there. The fringe folk -- you still deserve my

upmost respect for being a part of this brave and corageous battle too.

I feel like a failure because things have been going badly for me. At times

there is shame for me in posting, and an avoidance factor. I feel guilty about

asking asking asking asking for advice, when obviously I have little

constructive to add myself. (Otherwise I'd be getting better).

No, I am not in hospice yet. But my pain is increasing and my stamina and

mobility are decreasing, with is scary.

I will do my best to check in at least once a day, and to try to contribute

something positive to this wonderful group. If you don't mind, I'd still like

to ask for advice.

At least I can still offer advice on the spiritual realm. I talked with a

few days ago and she said she posted a post about the fact that Death is not

Failure. I have not read this post yet, and I need to. But just from the

title, I would wholeheartedly agree.

We are all going to die at some time, whether it be at 50 from colon cancer or

at 95 from natural causes, or tomorrow from an automobile accident.

Are we ready? Are we at peace with ourselves about this? I know for sure that

I am not, because of the fear I still have surrounding the issue. I have a LOT

of work to do between God and I reqarding this isse.

And it is frustrating, because I keep running into people who I consider to be

far more spiritually immature than I am (and in no immediate distress) trying to

force me to believe things, often very contradictory things.

I hope we can talk about this more, because it is VITAL and CRUCIAL to a cancer

patient's chances of survival. If you don't believe me, ask who has

seen it first-hand, hundreds of times.

What I have found to be true so far is the following (for myself):

I must bless God every morning, noon, and night for the life he has given me and

the beauty he has surrounded me with.

I must forgive all people who have done real and/or imagined things against me.

I must seek councel with God every time the fear of death and abandonment takes

over me.

Well, God bless you all. Sincerely. I love you all.

The one piece of advice I would like to ask right now is the best way to

increase my caloric intake, yet stay within an anti-cancer diet.

God Bless you all!

>

> Roz,

>  

> I spoke with Jim on the telephone last night and I told him many people care

about him and were concerned. I asked if he wanted me to rely anything to the

group. He said to let everyone know he has had a good last week and July 4th and

has been spending time with his family. He so appreciates all the love and

support from everyone. He said he would be getting back on the site soon.

>  

>  

> Sincerely,

>  

> Dorr

>

[Guest guest]

Jim,

Thanks for posting.

Your " heavy hitters " don't seem to be doing much for you, though they

may have bought you some time. LDN is quite mild and slow

acting. It is unclear where it is most beneficial. I don't expect

much from it when it is crunch time. Artemix and various artemesia

derivatives don't seem to work that well. I am starting to

categorize them with the great many conventional and alternative

treatments that selectively kill or inhibit some cancer cells and

give the rest free rein to grow.

I went to the sutherlandia site

http://www.sutherlandia.org/cancer.html which seems more honest than

most. They only say it is a quality-of-life tonic and it helps appetite.

I have not seen IP6 perform that well in humans. It may be because

the producers mostly use inexpensive calcium phytate, but the

research was done with sodium phytate or phytic acid. This is used

with inositol, but it would probably work better if the inositol was oxidized.

If you are not averse to the use of conventional meds (crunch time is

a good time for reconsiderations) you might consider mitomycin C and

magnesium valproate. I usually include parthenolide (from feverfew)

but it is better if you find ways to solubilize it, e.g., as a guest

molecule in inclusion compounds. Hydroxyurea is relatively non-toxic

and it will stop ribonucleotide reductase.

Cimetidine should almost always be used with colon cancers. Be

cautious if your liver is inflamed.

There are a number of conventional and research treatments for colon

cancer that far outperform the formulary protocols that are currently

imposed on patients. An example would be the use of AZT (there are

tricks where you can use lower doses), dipyridamole (one of my

favorites), xeloda (with potassium oxonate), and pluronic 85. This

can whittle colon cancer tumor load down to virtually nothing.

These strategies and others can kick down colon tumors, but the most

important things are the prevention of metastasis and keeping the

door open for future immune therapies. In the near future the price

will come down on many treatments that are currently

underground/unapproved, such as the subtraction of soluble receptors of TNFa.

Jim, you can continue telling list members how you treasure them

while you cock an eye for a low swinging chariot, or you can go down

fighting. You seemed to be doing ok when you were a bit cantankerous.

[Guest guest]

Thank you !

I do what I can. Thank you greatly for your suggestions. Could you put

together some sort of hypothetical protocol for some hypothetical colon cancer

patient which I would promise nver to use?

I had the luxury of being cantakerous at one time when I was feeling better. I

no longer have this luxury.

-- please -- some practical advice for me? Some hope?

>

> Jim,

>

> Thanks for posting.

>

> Your " heavy hitters " don't seem to be doing much for you, though they

> may have bought you some time. LDN is quite mild and slow

> acting. It is unclear where it is most beneficial. I don't expect

> much from it when it is crunch time. Artemix and various artemesia

> derivatives don't seem to work that well. I am starting to

> categorize them with the great many conventional and alternative

> treatments that selectively kill or inhibit some cancer cells and

> give the rest free rein to grow.

>

> I went to the sutherlandia site

> http://www.sutherlandia.org/cancer.html which seems more honest than

> most. They only say it is a quality-of-life tonic and it helps appetite.

>

> I have not seen IP6 perform that well in humans. It may be because

> the producers mostly use inexpensive calcium phytate, but the

> research was done with sodium phytate or phytic acid. This is used

> with inositol, but it would probably work better if the inositol was oxidized.

>

> If you are not averse to the use of conventional meds (crunch time is

> a good time for reconsiderations) you might consider mitomycin C and

> magnesium valproate. I usually include parthenolide (from feverfew)

> but it is better if you find ways to solubilize it, e.g., as a guest

> molecule in inclusion compounds. Hydroxyurea is relatively non-toxic

> and it will stop ribonucleotide reductase.

>

> Cimetidine should almost always be used with colon cancers. Be

> cautious if your liver is inflamed.

>

> There are a number of conventional and research treatments for colon

> cancer that far outperform the formulary protocols that are currently

> imposed on patients. An example would be the use of AZT (there are

> tricks where you can use lower doses), dipyridamole (one of my

> favorites), xeloda (with potassium oxonate), and pluronic 85. This

> can whittle colon cancer tumor load down to virtually nothing.

>

> These strategies and others can kick down colon tumors, but the most

> important things are the prevention of metastasis and keeping the

> door open for future immune therapies. In the near future the price

> will come down on many treatments that are currently

> underground/unapproved, such as the subtraction of soluble receptors of TNFa.

>

> Jim, you can continue telling list members how you treasure them

> while you cock an eye for a low swinging chariot, or you can go down

> fighting. You seemed to be doing ok when you were a bit cantankerous.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jim, Cut back on the morphine, and, Ta Da..!!, you can be

cantankerous again. IL-2 with ranitidine is one way to kick up

immune function with colon or colon--> liver.

If your sialic acid is high I usually look to a vaccine which I make,

or tannic acid, or Newcastle virus, or a type of non-pathogenic

vibrio which secretes neuraminidase. If it is crunch time you can

cuddle up with a swine flu patient for neuraminidase that's free for

the taking. Many of these things are best administered

rectally. Speaking of rectal, don't hesitate to make super strong

solutions of pau d'arco tea as a retention enema. Pau d'arco is much

stronger if you sequentially extract it into methanol, then

chloroform or methylene chloride, and then after total removal of the

solvents (I use a rotovap), take it up into DMSO.

Jim, there are many things that you can do, but I would need to know

your blood values and details of your current situation. Where do you live?

At 03:39 PM 7/12/2009, you wrote:

>Thank you !

>

>I do what I can. Thank you greatly for your suggestions. Could you

>put together some sort of hypothetical protocol for some

>hypothetical colon cancer patient which I would promise nver to use?

>

>I had the luxury of being cantakerous at one time when I was feeling

>better. I no longer have this luxury.

>

> -- please -- some practical advice for me? Some hope?

>

>

> >

> > Jim,

> >

> > Thanks for posting.

> >

> > Your " heavy hitters " don't seem to be doing much for you, though they

> > may have bought you some time. LDN is quite mild and slow

> > acting. It is unclear where it is most beneficial. I don't expect

> > much from it when it is crunch time. Artemix and various artemesia

> > derivatives don't seem to work that well. I am starting to

> > categorize them with the great many conventional and alternative

> > treatments that selectively kill or inhibit some cancer cells and

> > give the rest free rein to grow.

> >

> > I went to the sutherlandia site

> >

>

<http://www.sutherlandia.org/cancer.html>http://www.sutherlandia.org/cancer.html

> which seems more honest than

> > most. They only say it is a quality-of-life tonic and it helps appetite.

> >

> > I have not seen IP6 perform that well in humans. It may be because

> > the producers mostly use inexpensive calcium phytate, but the

> > research was done with sodium phytate or phytic acid. This is used

> > with inositol, but it would probably work better if the inositol

> was oxidized.

> >

> > If you are not averse to the use of conventional meds (crunch time is

> > a good time for reconsiderations) you might consider mitomycin C and

> > magnesium valproate. I usually include parthenolide (from feverfew)

> > but it is better if you find ways to solubilize it, e.g., as a guest

> > molecule in inclusion compounds. Hydroxyurea is relatively non-toxic

> > and it will stop ribonucleotide reductase.

> >

> > Cimetidine should almost always be used with colon cancers. Be

> > cautious if your liver is inflamed.

> >

> > There are a number of conventional and research treatments for colon

> > cancer that far outperform the formulary protocols that are currently

> > imposed on patients. An example would be the use of AZT (there are

> > tricks where you can use lower doses), dipyridamole (one of my

> > favorites), xeloda (with potassium oxonate), and pluronic 85. This

> > can whittle colon cancer tumor load down to virtually nothing.

> >

> > These strategies and others can kick down colon tumors, but the most

> > important things are the prevention of metastasis and keeping the

> > door open for future immune therapies. In the near future the price

> > will come down on many treatments that are currently

> > underground/unapproved, such as the subtraction of soluble

> receptors of TNFa.

> >

> > Jim, you can continue telling list members how you treasure them

> > while you cock an eye for a low swinging chariot, or you can go down

> > fighting. You seemed to be doing ok when you were a bit cantankerous.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Jim,

 

I actually wrote " Death Is Not A Failure " because your wife asked me to when you

were out of town. We had hoped you would read it. She and I talked briefly.

Little did I know that I would be facing possible liver mets and disease

progression in both lungs shortly after writing this.

 

I am now feeling more tired all of a sudden and winded when I walk upstairs or

hike. I was so down today I actually thought of asking my doctor to put me on

hospice. If I am on hospice, I can utilize Physician-Assisted Suicide, which I

campaigned for back in 1994. I was the campaign's poster child. I will not

suffer with my death as I will utilize the drugs to end my suffering when the

time comes. This does bring me peace-of-mind that I will not suffer. Death is

ahead of me and you and everyone else. In some fashion, we all have to make the

transition. If you can not find this article, then let me know and I will send

it to you privately.

 

Today I was tired of fighting. I don't mean this in a what some have labelled as

a " self-pitying party, but that I have the fear that I can't beat mets to the

liver. I got on the internet last night and was shocked to find that there are

people who have lived 5 or so years with both liver and lung mets from breast

cancer. On this particular website, everyone is doing chemo. I am considering

chemo myself, if it gets the results of tumor shrinkage and longevity as the

gals document. Never thought I'd hear myself saying I'd do chemo,  but I am not

ready to die, even though there are times I am tired of this on-going battle

with this chronic disease and I think death would be an end to the suffering. I

cancelled a trip to see my daughter tonight, then called her later and told her

I feel up to driving the 100 miles south of Portland to see her and her family.

As for your diet, I am struggling with this as well. I am throwing up every

morning before I eat breakfast and I am not sure where this is coming from. My

main calories are coming from fats in healthy oils (olive, hemp, coconut),

coconut pulp, avocados, as well as nuts and seeds. As a breast cancer survivor,

I know that many experts have said that a 10-12% of your diet should come from

fats, but then what the hell am I supposed to eat then if I can't have grains

(which convert to sugar) and can't have most fruits? Read my post on the

wheatgrass powder thread and I outline what I am eating. I am struggling with

the coconut water (it has some natural sugar in it, but is lower then most

fruits) and did indeed have a coconut mylk " shake " this morning from a young

virgin coconut. It settled my stomach immediately. If you look at

Cousens/Young's protocol, I don't think most people can stay on it. It is

extremely difficult, and yet I think it is the best one

for anti-cancer. Sherrie Calbom (I sent you one of her books) has some yummy

vegetable smoothies which has gotten me thru some tough days. I also came up

with a raw soup warmed with warm water added to a broth I make from raw vegies.

I can send you some recipes at the end of the week. But again, it is a struggle

to get enough calories and yet be cancer-free. I made a ton of raw recipes

today, taking them in a cooler when I visit my daughter and her family.

 

The Cousens/Young diet is time-consuming as you have to sprout things and

prepare the recipes in order to survive the limiting foods allowed. Nuts and

seeds should be soaked before eating, etc. I also ate two non-organic

strawberries today when I was preparing a client's dinner. I'm not perfect yet,

but trying.

 

Honesty of where you are at emotionally is important because then you dump out

the negative and can take a look at where you are at, acknowledging that this

cancer journey, especially for us Stage IV's is a roller-coaster ride. Normal

emotions as fear, anger, frustation, wanting to die, fear of dying are going to

come around. I called up my best friend the day after I got the written CT scan

report and said, " I am ready to die. " She asked me, " What can I do? " I told her,

" Let me go. I have been hanging on for three years for other people so that they

aren't hurt if I die. " She wasn't at all comfortable with this and immediately

decided there must be something I could do to fight this. The people we love,

whether on this site or in our personal lives,  have their own feelings to deal

with as well, regarding our illness. It is difficult for them as well. I called

my friend up the next day and apologized for being so negative, but I really

think this

came on the hills of and Farrah Fawcett's deaths. Why oh why

did I watch the memorial with 's gold coffin---the image they kept

editing into each scene in such a dramatic way? All I could think about was,

" There's a dead body in there!! "

 

I have to get ready to go out of town, so keep us posted if you are up to it,

Jim. You are not a failure.  You have tried so hard. No one on this site is a

failure. Maybe we haven't been 100% perfect on our protocols, but at least we

have done the best we could.

 

Are we up for the fight? Are there miracles still out there? I believe so. I am

going to take this day-by-day ONE DAY AT A TIME, ONE MINUTE AT A TIME if need be

and do the very best I can to fight this. If I do chemo, I have to answer only

to myself, not anyone else in this world. I don't have to hide the fact that I

may do this. Why should I? If it has prolonged some folks's life, then I'm for

it. I know that CHEMO is the nembasus of some folks, but then that's there

right. Just a few weeks ago I stated I'd never do chemo. Well, then have your

a## on the line and see what you'd do in my shoes?

 

I am still open to alternatives, but they have to work. If anyone has any

heavy-hitters they can throw my way, please do so. I am now in a very serious

place and it is going to be a tough road ahead. Any help at all---mainstream or

alternative is most appreciated. Oh and I don't sue naturopaths either. The only

person I have ever sued was a collection agency who called my work. My boss

called me into her office and asked, " , just tell me what you have done.

The feds are looking for you. " Turns out the collection agency represented

themselves as the federal government. Not only did I win $1,000, but I got the

Oregon law changed on collection agencies. Anyway, I am still fighting. Here is

a recent newspaper article on my fight against taxes on health care premiums in

our state. It has a photo of me.

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/06/businesses_taxed_more_people_s.\

html

 I will be out of town until Friday.

 

Take care,

 

 

 

From: jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Has anyone heard from Jim McElroy?

Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 10:42 AM

Thank you all very much for your love and concern! I will state unequivivably

that without this support would not be alive today, or at the very least I would

be completely mentally incapacitated with fear.

I love and care deeply about every one of you, even those that I have " tangled

with " a bit in the past.

For those that don't know me very well, I started hanging out on this board

about 8 months ago to try to find a solution to my stage 4 colon cancer. For

quite awhile I was doing quite well! I had sort of developed my own protocol

that consisted of some heavy hitters including LDN, Artemix, Sutherlandia OPC,

IP6, and various other " lighter " supplements to help back them up.

Everything seemed to be going quite well until about Easter, when I suddenly and

unexpectedly started experiencing severe pain in my gut. A CT scan revealed that

there were mets in my mesentary area of my gut that were likely cutting off the

blood supply to my intestinges, giving fairly severe angina-like pains, only

with intestinal origins and not heart origins.

WTF? Where did these come from and why did they appear out of the blue, without

much warning?

So I've tried a little of everything to zero in on their causes. I tried

anti-spasmotics. I tried cutting out all supplements for a week.

I tried juice fasts. I tried playing around with various levels of herbs and

supplements.

I tried seeing two local naturopaths to help, and neither was much help. (Sigh).

And for those of you on this board who are naturopaths or chioropractics, PLEASE

rest easy -- I don't sue people! I think erroneously got that impression

many months ago that let to some friction between us.

I am now, unfortunately, reduced to taking some powerful pain meds (oxycodone

via patch and pill) and one tranquilizer every night to help me sleep. This

means I can no longer taks LDN, because you cannot take LDN and opiate based

pain pills at the same time.

So I am kind of in retreat mode.

I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE for failing to keep everyone informed on this board! You

all are THE BEST!!!! BAR NONE. I have come to love you all, even those few with

ideas I consider a bit out there. The fringe folk -- you still deserve my upmost

respect for being a part of this brave and corageous battle too.

I feel like a failure because things have been going badly for me. At times

there is shame for me in posting, and an avoidance factor. I feel guilty about

asking asking asking asking for advice, when obviously I have little

constructive to add myself. (Otherwise I'd be getting better).

No, I am not in hospice yet. But my pain is increasing and my stamina and

mobility are decreasing, with is scary.

I will do my best to check in at least once a day, and to try to contribute

something positive to this wonderful group. If you don't mind, I'd still like to

ask for advice.

At least I can still offer advice on the spiritual realm. I talked with a

few days ago and she said she posted a post about the fact that Death is not

Failure. I have not read this post yet, and I need to. But just from the title,

I would wholeheartedly agree.

We are all going to die at some time, whether it be at 50 from colon cancer or

at 95 from natural causes, or tomorrow from an automobile accident.

Are we ready? Are we at peace with ourselves about this? I know for sure that I

am not, because of the fear I still have surrounding the issue. I have a LOT of

work to do between God and I reqarding this isse.

And it is frustrating, because I keep running into people who I consider to be

far more spiritually immature than I am (and in no immediate distress) trying to

force me to believe things, often very contradictory things.

I hope we can talk about this more, because it is VITAL and CRUCIAL to a cancer

patient's chances of survival. If you don't believe me, ask who has seen

it first-hand, hundreds of times.

What I have found to be true so far is the following (for myself):

I must bless God every morning, noon, and night for the life he has given me and

the beauty he has surrounded me with.

I must forgive all people who have done real and/or imagined things against me.

I must seek councel with God every time the fear of death and abandonment takes

over me.

Well, God bless you all. Sincerely. I love you all.

The one piece of advice I would like to ask right now is the best way to

increase my caloric intake, yet stay within an anti-cancer diet.

God Bless you all!

>

> Roz,

>  

> I spoke with Jim on the telephone last night and I told him many people care

about him and were concerned. I asked if he wanted me to rely anything to the

group. He said to let everyone know he has had a good last week and July 4th and

has been spending time with his family. He so appreciates all the love and

support from everyone. He said he would be getting back on the site soon.

>  

>  

> Sincerely,

>  

> Dorr

>

[Guest guest]

:

 

If you have anything for me too, I'd most appreciate some advice. Stage IV

breast cancer with disease progression in both lungs with possible mets to the

liver.

 

I agree with you. I like Jim when he's cantankerous. I have a bit of orneryness

in me as well.

 

Thanks,

 

[Guest guest]

I live near Chico, Californa. Chico is 90 miles north of Sacramento. In

reality, I live in Magalia, CA, in the foothills of the Sierras, which is 6

miles north of Paradise, which is 20 miles east of Chico.

This is gold country. Many years ago a 52 lb nugget was found in Magalia. The

gold is mostly mined, not obtained from placers or creekbeds. There are many

quartz veins and the mines follow the veins.

Paradise used to be named " Pair of Dice " but for some reason, the population got

more Christian and decided that " Pair of Dice " was not a suitable name for a

town. So they slightly altered it to " Paradise " .

Magalia used to be called " Dogtown " because a couple up here had some breedable

dogs brought over the Rockies and Sierras, and the miners were greatly in need

of guard dogs for their mines and claims.

Of course, the guy (and gal) who got the richest were the Bidwells, who made

their fortune off of growing fruit and nuts. The area is still the number one

area in the US for almonds and walnuts, as well as olives, cherries, peaches,

pears, navel oranges, and many other types of fruit. Annie Bidwell started the

Chico Normal College, which is now known as California State University Chico.

Mr. Bidwell ran for Governor of California. The Bidwell " mansion " housed and

entertained many senators, congressmen, and even Presidents on their way out

visiting the west. General Sherman once stayed there too, but after only one

night at the mansion he insisted on staying at a boarding room in town, because

Annie Bidwell was a prohibitionist and would not allow alcohol in the mansion.

In many ways, Annie was way ahead of her time, and was for women's and minority

rights, and insisted that the native Americans in and around her property were

treated decently and educated.

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> > > Jim,

> > >

> > > Thanks for posting.

> > >

> > > Your " heavy hitters " don't seem to be doing much for you, though they

> > > may have bought you some time. LDN is quite mild and slow

> > > acting. It is unclear where it is most beneficial. I don't expect

> > > much from it when it is crunch time. Artemix and various artemesia

> > > derivatives don't seem to work that well. I am starting to

> > > categorize them with the great many conventional and alternative

> > > treatments that selectively kill or inhibit some cancer cells and

> > > give the rest free rein to grow.

> > >

> > > I went to the sutherlandia site

> > >

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<http://www.sutherlandia.org/cancer.html>http://www.sutherlandia.org/cancer.html

> > which seems more honest than

> > > most. They only say it is a quality-of-life tonic and it helps appetite.

> > >

> > > I have not seen IP6 perform that well in humans. It may be because

> > > the producers mostly use inexpensive calcium phytate, but the

> > > research was done with sodium phytate or phytic acid. This is used

> > > with inositol, but it would probably work better if the inositol

> > was oxidized.

> > >

> > > If you are not averse to the use of conventional meds (crunch time is

> > > a good time for reconsiderations) you might consider mitomycin C and

> > > magnesium valproate. I usually include parthenolide (from feverfew)

> > > but it is better if you find ways to solubilize it, e.g., as a guest

> > > molecule in inclusion compounds. Hydroxyurea is relatively non-toxic

> > > and it will stop ribonucleotide reductase.

> > >

> > > Cimetidine should almost always be used with colon cancers. Be

> > > cautious if your liver is inflamed.

> > >

> > > There are a number of conventional and research treatments for colon

> > > cancer that far outperform the formulary protocols that are currently

> > > imposed on patients. An example would be the use of AZT (there are

> > > tricks where you can use lower doses), dipyridamole (one of my

> > > favorites), xeloda (with potassium oxonate), and pluronic 85. This

> > > can whittle colon cancer tumor load down to virtually nothing.

> > >

> > > These strategies and others can kick down colon tumors, but the most

> > > important things are the prevention of metastasis and keeping the

> > > door open for future immune therapies. In the near future the price

> > > will come down on many treatments that are currently

> > > underground/unapproved, such as the subtraction of soluble

> > receptors of TNFa.

> > >

> > > Jim, you can continue telling list members how you treasure them

> > > while you cock an eye for a low swinging chariot, or you can go down

> > > fighting. You seemed to be doing ok when you were a bit cantankerous.

> > >

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I will read it very shortly, - thank you so much!

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> > Roz,

> >  

> > I spoke with Jim on the telephone last night and I told him many people care

about him and were concerned. I asked if he wanted me to rely anything to the

group. He said to let everyone know he has had a good last week and July 4th and

has been spending time with his family. He so appreciates all the love and

support from everyone. He said he would be getting back on the site soon.

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> >  

> > Sincerely,

> >  

> > Dorr

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[Guest guest]

Jim,

Your area has many easily accessible olive trees. Olive leaf

tea (which tastes terrible) is quite a good med when sipped

throughout the day. The half-life of the oleuropein is probably only

an hour or so. You can stabilize it with citric acid though. You can

easily get a ten-fold concentration if you extract it into

alcohol. It can be very useful as part of a colon cancer protocol.

The North Sacramento Valley is a great place to do hyperthermia

in the summer -- just walk outdoors.

At 07:08 PM 7/12/2009, you wrote:

>I live near Chico, Californa....[snip]

[Guest guest]

Sometime ago, i wrote about a man who had lung cancer and was paralyzed. I also

gave an update that he could sit up after taking lemongrass tea. My doc friend

just came back, and gave me an update on the guy, he now feels stronger and can

sit long hours and raise his hands up. Cancer still there but he is slowly

improving. We make him take papaya tea and graviola tea, but he dislikes the

taste and mainly just takes lemongrass tea. So there, this info might be useful

to you Jim and others out there.

> >

> > Roz,

> >  

> > I spoke with Jim on the telephone last night and I told him many people care

about him and were concerned. I asked if he wanted me to rely anything to the

group. He said to let everyone know he has had a good last week and July 4th and

has been spending time with his family. He so appreciates all the love and

support from everyone. He said he would be getting back on the site soon.

> >  

> >  

> > Sincerely,

> >  

> > Dorr

> >

>

[Guest guest]

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> Hello VGammill,

>

> , that Sutherlandia site you went to is for the fruitescens

> herb. It is not the site for Sutherlandia OPC. SOPC is the

> combination of S. fruitescens and Nerium oleander. This is the one

> that is intended for cancer.

>

> Hey Mike,

Do you have the URL for the SOPC combo ... the one that is intended for cancer?

xxoo

[Guest guest]

Of course, yes. How much should I take a day, assuming I can't hold too many

other supplements down?

> >

> > Hello VGammill,

> >

> > , that Sutherlandia site you went to is for the fruitescens

> > herb. It is not the site for Sutherlandia OPC. SOPC is the

> > combination of S. fruitescens and Nerium oleander. This is the one

> > that is intended for cancer.

> >

> > Hey Mike,

>

> Do you have the URL for the SOPC combo ... the one that is intended for

cancer?

>

> xxoo

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

WWW.sutherlandiaopc.com

Mike

Monday, July 13, 2009, 10:10:01 AM, you wrote:

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M> Do you have the URL for the SOPC combo ... the one that is intended for

cancer?

M> xxoo

M>

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