Re: Medical Qigong

[Guest guest]

Hey Christofer,

 

I agree completely. Standing post meditation helped me beat four bouts of

supposedly terminal bone lymphoma in the early nineties. I used it as an adjunct

to chemotherapy. It calmed my mind, energized my body, and empowered my will to

endure the high-dose chemo of two bone marrow transplants. Clear 14 years and

still practicing daily.

 

Regards,

 

Bob Ellal

From: christofer.channing <christofer.channing@...>

Subject: [ ] Medical Qigong

Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 1:26 PM

 

To prevent and possibly cure cancer requires more than just healthy diets, herbs

and supplements, it requires also proper exercises, meditations and proper

breathing techniques. The incorporation of the body , the mind and the spirit is

actually done in Qigong, it is an ancient internal Chinese martial art that has

been practised for a few thousand years.It was practised by Daoist immortals to

sustain immortality.

Qi is the internal energy, it flows through the various meridians and channels

in the human body to sustain life. When qi circulation is unblocked and strong,

the blood circulation is also improved. Good health is maintained and you become

disease-resistant.The benefits of qigong are far too numerous to state. I

personally have been doing qigong for over 40 years. And I strongly encourage

the practice of Qigong daily for almost every one.

[Guest guest]

Has anybody had good results without any allopathic tx using a mind, body and

nutritional approach? I am fighting vulvar CA and would love to hear about

someone who avoided surgery, chemo, and radiation. I have gone that route

before and am back in the same position again. Am currently using Simonton

tapes, energy work, anti-ca diet ie. raw veggies, no mik except the budwig

protocol, and Bill 's recommendations for supplements, plus Essiac tea

and proteolytic enzymes. Also bathing in hydrogen peroxide as much as possible.

Any ideas or cases of non allopathic remission?

Thanks,

pjbarry13

[Guest guest]

thanks. as a starting point for a lay person how would u suggest one gets to

know more about qigong ??

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

It's always best to have a qualified teacher who can correct one's form and

breathing. However, books can be a good place to start. I recommend 'The Way of

Energy' by Master Lam, on Amazon. It shows a standing post health set designed

to move energy in the body. Standing post meditation helped me beat four bouts

of supposedly terminal bone cancer in the early nineties. I highly recommend it

as one of the most powerful forms of qigong. For more information go to the

website of Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming--ymaa.com. Dr. Yang is my teacher's teacher and a

pioneer in bringing qigong to the West. His books and DVDs teach the real thing

as taught in China for centuries at least.

 

Regards,

 

Bob Ellal

From: sumeet dhawan <sumeetr77@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Medical Qigong

Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 10:52 PM

 

thanks. as a starting point for a lay person how would u suggest one gets to

know more about qigong ??

[Guest guest]

I started Spring Forest QiGong, Level one when dx with bc in 12/05. You can

often find used cd sets on Ebay at reasonable prices. Don't jump on the

first one offered. You want the complete set, with 6 audio tapes and 1

video tape ... or ... 6 cds and 1 dvd plus 40 pg oversize instruction

book included with either set.

My original set was with the audio tapes and video. Then I saw a set of

home-made cd tapes offered. Loved it. The tapes/cds are super easy and

you are guided into everything.

I got so good that when I went for a heart checkup before my surgery, I

could control my bloodpressure & heartbeat. (ck'd it while I was hooked

up.) I purchased my original set for Learning Strategies Corp. You can go

on their website and familiarize yourself with the set so you don't

get mislead on Ebay. Of course, you can buy the set new on Learning

Strategies.

I was in a panic when first dx and was doing everything (castor oil packs,

Ave, artemisinin, AHCC, QiGong etc) but now, almost 5 yrs later after

refusing chemo & radiation (don't ever do as I do.. decide for yourself), I

am still doing the QiGong. It gives me energy & makes me feel great !!

Good luck, my friend, and feel free to ask any questions... Lola

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 10:52 PM, sumeet dhawan <sumeetr77@...> wrote:

>

>

> thanks. as a starting point for a lay person how would u suggest one gets

> to

> know more about qigong ??

>

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[Guest guest]

Bob Ellal,

Time your breath rate now while you are in qigong meditation. Then progressively

reduce over a time period that's comfortable for you.Let's say your breath rate

is 8 breaths per minute now, you can reduce by 1 breath per week for example.

Good luck.

C

________________________________

From: ROBERT ELLAL <rcellal@...>

Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 9:56:48 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Medical Qigong

Hi,

It's always best to have a qualified teacher who can correct one's form and

breathing. However, books can be a good place to start. I recommend 'The Way of

Energy' by Master Lam, on Amazon. It shows a standing post health set designed

to move energy in the body. Standing post meditation helped me beat four bouts

of supposedly terminal bone cancer in the early nineties. I highly recommend it

as one of the most powerful forms of qigong. For more information go to the

website of Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming--ymaa.com. Dr. Yang is my teacher's teacher and a

pioneer in bringing qigong to the West. His books and DVDs teach the real thing

as taught in China for centuries at least.

Regards,

Bob Ellal

[Guest guest]

I would think that the body would automatically and unconsciously

increase lung expansion as one slows the rate. My guess would be

that any benefits would accrue from focusing of the attention and

calming the mind rather than directly from any physiological manipulation.

At 06:19 PM 6/14/2010, you wrote:

>

>Bob Ellal,

>Time your breath rate now while you are in qigong meditation. Then

>progressively reduce over a time period that's comfortable for

>you.Let's say your breath rate is 8 breaths per minute now, you can

>reduce by 1 breath per week for example.

>Good luck.

>C

>

>________________________________

>From: ROBERT ELLAL <<mailto:rcellal%40sbcglobal.net>rcellal@...>

><mailto: %40>

>Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 9:56:48 AM

>Subject: Re: [ ] Medical Qigong

>

>Hi,

>It's always best to have a qualified teacher who can correct one's

>form and breathing. However, books can be a good place to start. I

>recommend 'The Way of Energy' by Master Lam, on Amazon. It shows a

>standing post health set designed to move energy in the body.

>Standing post meditation helped me beat four bouts of supposedly

>terminal bone cancer in the early nineties. I highly recommend it as

>one of the most powerful forms of qigong. For more information go to

>the website of Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming--ymaa.com. Dr. Yang is my

>teacher's teacher and a pioneer in bringing qigong to the West. His

>books and DVDs teach the real thing as taught in China for centuries at least.

>

>Regards,

>Bob Ellal

[Guest guest]

I wholeheartedly agree with VGammill. With the practices of QiGong, Tai chi

chuan and other such practices your body will unconsciously start to slow it's

breathing but it does not hurt to use focused intent. Of course with the

focusing of attention and calming the mind with these practices one will be able

to learn to use physiological manipulation to effect near miraculous changes and

healing. We have thousands of years of evidence to prove this will in fact

happen.

I also do Spring Forest Qigong and have found it to be most beneficial. Master

Chunyi Lin is very approachable and willing to help if you're having problems.

He was named 2010 Qigong Master of the year. His goal in life has been to teach

others how to heal themselves and their families. I highly recommend it because

you can learn to do it by watching his DVD in the privacy of your home and it's

very affordable.

Sandy.

[Guest guest]

For those of you practicing Qi Gong, or planning to, I have a book in pdf

format called " Practical Chinese Qigong for Home Health Care " published in

Beijing by the Foreign Languages Press. It has many exercises and tips for

the practice of Qi Gong at home to treat many conditions, including some

types of cancer (from page 175 onward).

As I do not remember where I got this from, I have uploaded it to my Google

Docs site and made it public, so that you can access it and download it from

this link:

https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B7zuG2u2SVFcNjM2OGVkOGMtZjc0Mi00YWE5LTkwMDU\

tMmJhZDRjNjQ0ZGFk & hl=en

I wonder if it's more convenient to save this document in the group's files

if anybody is interested? In that case, please just let me know how I should

do it.

Best wishes,

kasturbai

Barcelona, Spain

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Kasturbai...I greatly appreciate this info.

Sandy

From: kasturbai <kasturbai@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Medical Qigong

Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 7:12 PM

For those of you practicing Qi Gong, or planning to, I have a book in pdf

format called " Practical Chinese Qigong for Home Health Care " published in

Beijing by the Foreign Languages Press. It has many exercises and tips for

the practice of Qi Gong at home to treat many conditions, including some

types of cancer (from page 175 onward).

As I do not remember where I got this from, I have uploaded it to my Google

Docs site and made it public, so that you can access it and download it from

this link:

https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B7zuG2u2SVFcNjM2OGVkOGMtZjc0Mi00YWE5LTkwMDU\

tMmJhZDRjNjQ0ZGFk & hl=en

I wonder if it's more convenient to save this document in the group's files

if anybody is interested? In that case, please just let me know how I should

do it.

Best wishes,

kasturbai

Barcelona, Spain

[Guest guest]

Thanks very much for this!

Kate

>

> For those of you practicing Qi Gong, or planning to, I have a book in pdf

> format called " Practical Chinese Qigong for Home Health Care " published in

> Beijing by the Foreign Languages Press. It has many exercises and tips for

> the practice of Qi Gong at home to treat many conditions, including some

> types of cancer (from page 175 onward).

>

> As I do not remember where I got this from, I have uploaded it to my Google

> Docs site and made it public, so that you can access it and download it from

> this link:

>

>

https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B7zuG2u2SVFcNjM2OGVkOGMtZjc0Mi00YWE5LTkwMDU\

tMmJhZDRjNjQ0ZGFk & hl=en

>

> I wonder if it's more convenient to save this document in the group's files

> if anybody is interested? In that case, please just let me know how I should

> do it.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> kasturbai

> Barcelona, Spain

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

 

Do you have any articles or books about the type of medical qigong you practice?

I'd like to take a look.

 

Bob Ellal

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know of a medical Qigong practitioner who can serve as an

instructor on Long Island, NY?

[Guest guest]

Hi Nili,

I checked out Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming's schools (my teacher's teacher) and I didn't

find any in Long Island. A thought: Check out the site of Master B.K. Frantzis

to see if any of his students are in your neck of the woods. Master Frantzis

studied in China for many years and is one of the best in the world (my teacher,

Rami Rones, studied with him and says he's amazing both in qigong and martial

arts such as tai chi chuan). He's also written numerous books on qigong and

martial arts.

Hope that helps.

Bob Ellal

Does anyone know of a medical Qigong practitioner who can serve as an

instructor on Long Island, NY?

[Guest guest]

Bob,

I have been doing qigong for more than 40 years. I started with a  style and I

have evolved into no style now. I do an eclectic mix of both static and dynamic

forms. I know there is a preference for dynamic first and then stationary as a

cool down. But I don't even stick to that. Of course, different

movements are associated with different organs. A good way for you, or for

anyone else, is to use 8 pieces of brocade as a base and mix and match to go

from there. One objection I have with 8 is there is not enough involvement with

the legs, the lower torso. With 8, there is the lifting of the heels, and shake

head, wag tail.So, I augment that with squats and lunges, and bouncing up down

with balls of feet, this builds calf muscles and lower body strength, but of

course not every one can physically do that, I realize.

Again, I must emphasize, you must synchronize your deep breathing with the

movement of qi ball,  around the small circuit for example, and with the

physical movement itself. Otherwise you are not doing it right.And you would not

gain maximum benefits from qigong. And slowness is the key as you want to

gradually reduce your breath rate and heart rate.

I am from the martial tradition, but I adapt to the needs  and abilities of my

pupils. I am accepting cancer surviors and patients now as students, so, you

know it is going to be challenging for me too. I am based in Depew, NY. So, if

you are not in the western New York area, I cannot help you in person. 

Best of luck to you !

________________________________

From: ROBERT ELLAL <rcellal@...>

Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010

Subject: Re: [ ] Medical Qigong

 

Do you have any articles or books about the type of medical qigong you practice?

I'd like to take a look.

Bob Ellal

[Guest guest]

Christofer,

 

Thanks. I'm very much an I Chuan guy, which I learned from my teacher who

learned it from Master Liang Shou-yu. Some of the deep stances from I-Chuan are

very challenging, but I no longer focus on them. My warm-ups are based on the

" 8 " and my moving forms after standing on Dr. Yang's sets. I come out of the

hard Japanese and Korean styles, years ago--but after cancer health qigong is

naturally my emphasis. Did practice Hsing-I san-ti and pi chuan for about a

year; but standing post is definitely my emphasis. As I no longer go to biker

bars there's not much call for self-defense!

 

Regards,

 

Bob

From: Christofer Channing <christofer.channing@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Medical Qigong

Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

Bob,

I have been doing qigong for more than 40 years. I started with a  style and

I have evolved into no style now. I do an eclectic mix of both static and

dynamic forms. I know there is a preference for dynamic first and then

stationary as a cool down. But I don't even stick to that. Of course, different

movements are associated with different organs. A good way for you, or for

anyone else, is to use 8 pieces of brocade as a base and mix and match to go

from there. One objection I have with 8 is there is not enough involvement with

the legs, the lower torso. With 8, there is the lifting of the heels, and shake

head, wag tail.So, I augment that with squats and lunges, and bouncing up down

with balls of feet, this builds calf muscles and lower body strength, but of

course not every one can physically do that, I realize.

Again, I must emphasize, you must synchronize your deep breathing with the

movement of qi ball,  around the small circuit for example, and with the

physical movement itself. Otherwise you are not doing it right.And you would

not gain maximum benefits from qigong. And slowness is the key as you want to

gradually reduce your breath rate and heart rate.

I am from the martial tradition, but I adapt to the needs  and abilities of

my pupils. I am accepting cancer surviors and patients now as students, so, you

know it is going to be challenging for me too. I am based in Depew, NY. So, if

you are not in the western New York area, I cannot help you in person. 

Best of luck to you !

________________________________

From: ROBERT ELLAL <rcellal@...>

Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010

Subject: Re: [ ] Medical Qigong

 

Do you have any articles or books about the type of medical qigong you practice?

I'd like to take a look.

Bob Ellal