Guest guest Posted May 24, 2002 Report Share Posted May 24, 2002 <<have a glass of chamomile tea and calm yourself. it is entirely possible that a person can have a degree in something and then actually achieve knowledge above and beyond what is typical for that degree.>> Responding to this thread is the most calming thing I've done in several days. I love it! And it's a ball to see the reactions that it is getting. So many on this list bash MDs, and they do have many shortcomings, yet you are willing to put your health in the hands of others who are far outside their training? Yet you don't accept MDs within their areas of training? No crossed wiring there. I will respect and add to my medical encyclopedia those healers who have accomplished something outside of the " norm. " That includes Gerson, who cured many TB cases in Europe and the U.S. with carrot juice, - he cured Jay " The Juiceman " Kordich of cancer (many others too); Ann Wigmore, who immigrated to the U. S. at age 16 illeterate, and has given us more natural healing methodologies than most; Bragg, who almost died as a teenager and repaired his own health through diet and exercise and lived into his 80s; Norman , who also cured his own cancer and as reported, lived to 118; Baker who was given 6 months to live and cured her cancer with raw foods; and on and on. Yes there are healers out there besides MDs. I even support all forms of spiritual healing because I have seen and experienced those results from a broad spectrum of sources. But chiropractors as a group are at the low-end of the totem pole in the healing arts and peddle irrational " medication " and irrational diagnosis at very high rate. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2002 Report Share Posted May 24, 2002 jay: have a glass of chamomile tea and calm yourself. it is entirely possible that a person can have a degree in something and then actually achieve knowledge above and beyond what is typical for that degree. anyway, your arguments are completely without merit until you actually speak with the man or talk to some of the people he has helped. you can rant all you want, cry bloody murder, and then when your all your anger is released you might have a conversation with the man, or read one of his books, and actually learn something. then you can pass the information you learned along to some of the good people here and help them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2002 Report Share Posted May 25, 2002 ARthur, What is the MD's treatment for the woman with mercury poisoning.? ----- Original Message ----- From: " Arthur Luckower " <aluckower@...> <gallstones > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 7:47 PM Subject: Re: chiropractor > <<So many on this list bash MDs, and they do have many shortcomings, yet you > are willing to put your health in the hands of others who are far outside > their training? Yet you don't accept MDs within their areas of training? No > crossed wiring there. > >> > > i have bashed md's and will probably continue to do so in the future. but every now and then i hear of one who seems to get great results. recently i heard about a woman who is being treated by an md for mercury poisoning. his treatment sounded brilliant to me. the woman had circulation restored to her legs after 15 years of coldness. it was a great story. likewise, i will bash most chiropractors. i happen to agree with you. most of them are complete buffoons. then again, every now and again one runs into an exceptional person. saul is one of these people. he is helping people overcome cancer and cfs and many other diseases. he seems to really understand the body and the healing process. he is the one who turned me onto these liver flushes. he has a vast amount of knowledge. whether i cross wires is not the issue here. the issue was that i recommended someone who i feel is more qualified to advise dawn than anyone on this list-- including myself. > > saul seems to be accomplishing things outside of the norm in healing cancers and saving gangrenous limbs and restoring people to work after debilitating chronic fatigue. i have read all of the authors you mentioned. saul's methods seem to be helping me more than theirs. this is my personal experience. > > like i said we are in agreement as to the effectiveness of MOST chiropractors. i am not defending the profession. > > again, > > if you were to talk with this person you would gain a deeper understanding of how the body works. your loss, not mine. i hope dawn at least decides for herself. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2002 Report Share Posted May 25, 2002 <<So many on this list bash MDs, and they do have many shortcomings, yet you are willing to put your health in the hands of others who are far outside their training? Yet you don't accept MDs within their areas of training? No crossed wiring there. >> i have bashed md's and will probably continue to do so in the future. but every now and then i hear of one who seems to get great results. recently i heard about a woman who is being treated by an md for mercury poisoning. his treatment sounded brilliant to me. the woman had circulation restored to her legs after 15 years of coldness. it was a great story. likewise, i will bash most chiropractors. i happen to agree with you. most of them are complete buffoons. then again, every now and again one runs into an exceptional person. saul is one of these people. he is helping people overcome cancer and cfs and many other diseases. he seems to really understand the body and the healing process. he is the one who turned me onto these liver flushes. he has a vast amount of knowledge. whether i cross wires is not the issue here. the issue was that i recommended someone who i feel is more qualified to advise dawn than anyone on this list-- including myself. saul seems to be accomplishing things outside of the norm in healing cancers and saving gangrenous limbs and restoring people to work after debilitating chronic fatigue. i have read all of the authors you mentioned. saul's methods seem to be helping me more than theirs. this is my personal experience. like i said we are in agreement as to the effectiveness of MOST chiropractors. i am not defending the profession. again, if you were to talk with this person you would gain a deeper understanding of how the body works. your loss, not mine. i hope dawn at least decides for herself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2002 Report Share Posted May 25, 2002 i can't remember all the details. he was using a combination of alot of therapies. dmps, dmsa, frequency sensitization. i only got a small taste of what she was doing. the thing that impressed me most was that he was addressing what he perceived to be the most relevant problem to the woman, and said that alot of the lesser issues would resolve themselves once this was done. my life experience has shown this to be true. most doctors do not have this scope of thought. and the idea of sensitization struck me as brilliant. to attune the body as to what was poison and what was self. i have done this myself at times by eating canned tuna while doing mercury chelation. the woman was experiencing the reactivation of her endocrine system after many many years of non function. i had never heard of an md who would accept mercury posioning as a cause for thyroid disorders. for me, this is the likely cause of my thyroid problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2002 Report Share Posted May 25, 2002 ------ But chiropractors as a group are at the low-end of the totem pole in the healing arts and peddle irrational " medication " and irrational diagnosis at very high rate.----- Not all of them. There are some who are truly healers such as Dr. Jon Schreiber. His vision has been a life saver for me in recovering from numerous physical ailments. Before learning about Breema I had suffered the effects of multiple whiplashes, a compressed L-5, piriformis syndrome, broken coccyx, and he helped me not to have to go through surgery to remove a ossification in my wrist that was making it impossible for me to use it (I couldn't bend, rotate, or put any weight on it when I first learned about Breema). Of all of these problems, none of them bother me at all anymore. The only persistent problem was muscular tension in my right shoulder and neck along the GB meridian...which disappeared when I did the flushes. http://www.breema.com/hwprograms/index.html Christa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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