Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Here is an excerpt from a pdf file titled " Catsclawtechreport " that is interesting, I didn't seem to note the web address- " Cat’s claw has been used in Peru and Europe since the early 1990s as an adjunctive treatment for cancer and AIDS, as well as other diseases that target the immunological system. 2–4,23,24 In addition to its immunostimulating activity, other in vitro anticancerous properties have been documented for these alkaloids and other constituents in cat’s claw. Five of the oxindole alkaloids have been clinically documented with in vitro antileukemic properties, 25 and various root and bark extracts have demonstrated antitumorous and antimutagenic properties. 2,26–30 Italian researchers reported in a 2001 in vitro study that cat’s claw directly inhibited the growth of a human breast cancer cell line by 90%, 31 while another research group reported that it inhibited the binding of estrogens in human breast cancer cells in vitro. 32 Swedish researchers documented it inhibited the growth of lymphoma and leukemia cells in vitro in 1998. 33 Early reports on Keplinger’s observatory trials with cancer patients taking cat’s claw in conjunction with such traditional cancer therapies as chemotherapy and radiation reported fewer side effects to the traditional therapies (such as hair loss, weight loss, nausea, secondary infections, and skin problems). 2 Subsequent researchers have shown how these effects might be possible: they have reported that cat’s claw can aid in DNA cellular repair and prevent cells from mutating; it also can help prevent the loss of white blood cells and immune damage caused by many chemotherapy drugs (a common side effect called leukopenia). 19–21 " 19. Sheng Y, et al., “Treatment of chemotherapy-induced leukopenia in a rat model with aqueous extract from Uncaria tomentosa.” Phytomedicine 2000; 7(2): 137–43. 20. Sheng, Y., et al., “Enhanced DNA repair, immune function and reduced toxicity of C-Med-100, a novel aqueous extract from Uncaria tomentosa.” J. Ethnopharmacol. 2000; 69(2): 115–26. 21. Sheng, Y., et al., “DNA repair enhancement of aqueous extracts of Uncaria tomentosa in a human volunteer study.” Phytomedicine 2001; 8(4): 275–82. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 My mother-in-law is from Peru and lives in the USA. She gave her employer cat's claw when her employer was diagnosed with cancer. I don't know if it worked but her employer is still alive as far as I know and it's been a few years since her diagnosis. Sometimes I buy cat's claw (uña de gato) from stores that sell products from Latin America. Every once in a great while, I boil water with a piece of cat's claw bark in it. It doesn't taste atrocious for something that might be good for you. As far as I am aware, I don't have a condition for which cat's claw is taken. Walter http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 my kids and husband and I all take MASSIVE amounts of probiotics. When we don't, we get bad stomach cramps. We also are on a gluten-free, sugar-free, dairy-free diet that REALLY helps. Lyme can just mes up your digestion. Hope that helps. Best, Natasha From: laina pedro <Lainamariepedro@...> Subject: [ ] cat's claw Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 12:15 PM  i know no one can give medical advice but i am just wanting to know if anyone has had any experience w/ cat's claw or any other herbs they found effective... aside from this... also have been on abx for 6 mos and beginning to get horrible stomach pains that never seem to subside any suggestions about what to take to relieve this mylanta and beano arent helping at all any suggestions are welcome and appreciated peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Probiotics were a must for us too. My daughter also got costipated at times which caused her trouble. At first I gave her tums like stuff and found out that makes it worse, so her doc gave her Glutathione. But unless you know why you're having the stomach pain you can't really treat it. If you interested in Herbal remedies ask you LLMD about the Cowden Protocol or Zhang herbs. Cowden worked for my daughter in conjunction with antibiotics. Now she no longer needs ab and only takes a cowden regimin. The Zhang herbs worked for me. Good luck to you! Annie ________________________________ From: laina pedro <Lainamariepedro@...> Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 3:15:07 PM Subject: [ ] cat's claw  i know no one can give medical advice but i am just wanting to know if anyone has had any experience w/ cat's claw or any other herbs they found effective... aside from this... also have been on abx for 6 mos and beginning to get horrible stomach pains that never seem to subside any suggestions about what to take to relieve this mylanta and beano arent helping at all any suggestions are welcome and appreciated peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Yes we take really great probiotics but (my son and I ) just can't take the abx anymore we are in so much stomach painconstantlyand i don't have a true LLMD but I am interested in this cowden and the zhang...please explain is this a prescription?where can i go to order this?we are in more pain w/ our stomach than any lyme symptoms and we need a break from these abx but i am afraid to get off and not replace the abx w/ something else... you know?please tell me more about how I can purchase this cowden and zhang...would I have to go see this dr zhang?peace:) From: Annie <akannielm@...> Subject: Re: [ ] cat's claw Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 5:22 PM  Probiotics were a must for us too. My daughter also got costipated at times which caused her trouble. At first I gave her tums like stuff and found out that makes it worse, so her doc gave her Glutathione. But unless you know why you're having the stomach pain you can't really treat it. If you interested in Herbal remedies ask you LLMD about the Cowden Protocol or Zhang herbs. Cowden worked for my daughter in conjunction with antibiotics. Now she no longer needs ab and only takes a cowden regimin. The Zhang herbs worked for me. Good luck to you! Annie ____________ _________ _________ __ From: laina pedro <Lainamariepedro> Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 3:15:07 PM Subject: [ ] cat's claw  i know no one can give medical advice but i am just wanting to know if anyone has had any experience w/ cat's claw or any other herbs they found effective... aside from this... also have been on abx for 6 mos and beginning to get horrible stomach pains that never seem to subside any suggestions about what to take to relieve this mylanta and beano arent helping at all any suggestions are welcome and appreciated peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 I recommend that you read Buhner's book " Healing Lyme " . He outlines an herbal protocol in the book and provides lots of information about the herbs and research that backs up his recommendations. I've been on Buhner's core protocol plus since October and have been getting better with very few side effects. Some of the components of the Zhang and Cowden protocols are similar to Buhner's so you can compare. I have not tried Zhang or Cowden protocols. Some of thier products are proprietary blends which I thought made it more difficult to research what you're taking. Information on the Cowden Protocol is available on the Nutramedix website: http://www.bionatus.com/nutramedix/pages/lymepage.html - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 The stomach pain is actually a symptom of the disease and if it gets worse it could be a Herx reaction but it is really important to be sure... Here's a link about Dr. Zhang - http://www.lymediseaseresource.com/Dr._Zhang.html Here's a link about Cowden protocol - http://www.bionatus.com/nutramedix/pdfs/L-Protocol-cowden.pdf Our LLMD recommends we try various things: 1. Warm lemon juice in water 2. burbur (every half hour for herxing 3. peat baths (that black mud stuff that they use in spas for mud wraps I guess Those help with Herx reactions and might help you. From: Annie <akannielm (DOT) com> Subject: Re: [ ] cat's claw Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 5:22 PM  Probiotics were a must for us too. My daughter also got costipated at times which caused her trouble. At first I gave her tums like stuff and found out that makes it worse, so her doc gave her Glutathione. But unless you know why you're having the stomach pain you can't really treat it. If you interested in Herbal remedies ask you LLMD about the Cowden Protocol or Zhang herbs. Cowden worked for my daughter in conjunction with antibiotics. Now she no longer needs ab and only takes a cowden regimin. The Zhang herbs worked for me. Good luck to you! Annie ____________ _________ _________ __ From: laina pedro <Lainamariepedro> Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 3:15:07 PM Subject: [ ] cat's claw  i know no one can give medical advice but i am just wanting to know if anyone has had any experience w/ cat's claw or any other herbs they found effective... aside from this... also have been on abx for 6 mos and beginning to get horrible stomach pains that never seem to subside any suggestions about what to take to relieve this mylanta and beano arent helping at all any suggestions are welcome and appreciated peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Neither thing is something I would suggest you putting yourself on. Thay are actual treatments for Lyme. If your GP believes you have Lyme and is treating you I would suggest asking him if he'd be willing to do a consult with a LLMD. Dr. Horowitz in Hyde Pak, NY is usually very open to working with other doctors and he is very familiar with both the Cowden Protocol and the hang herbs. I'm sorry I can't help you more, but there are different variations of the Cowden Protocol and different Zhang herbs for different things. They are hebs but they are still fairlt powerful healing things and you really don't want to take them the wrong way. Good Luck. Annie ________________________________ From: laina pedro <Lainamariepedro@...> Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 6:19:30 AM Subject: Re: [ ] cat's claw  Yes we take really great probiotics but (my son and I ) just can't take the abx anymore we are in so much stomach painconstantlyand i don't have a true LLMD but I am interested in this cowden and the zhang...please explain is this a prescription? where can i go to order this?we are in more pain w/ our stomach than any lyme symptoms and we need a break from these abx but i am afraid to get off and not replace the abx w/ something else... you know?please tell me more about how I can purchase this cowden and zhang...would I have to go see this dr zhang?peace: ) From: Annie <akannielm (DOT) com> Subject: Re: [ ] cat's claw Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 5:22 PM  Probiotics were a must for us too. My daughter also got costipated at times which caused her trouble. At first I gave her tums like stuff and found out that makes it worse, so her doc gave her Glutathione. But unless you know why you're having the stomach pain you can't really treat it. If you interested in Herbal remedies ask you LLMD about the Cowden Protocol or Zhang herbs. Cowden worked for my daughter in conjunction with antibiotics. Now she no longer needs ab and only takes a cowden regimin. The Zhang herbs worked for me. Good luck to you! Annie ____________ _________ _________ __ From: laina pedro <Lainamariepedro> Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 3:15:07 PM Subject: [ ] cat's claw  i know no one can give medical advice but i am just wanting to know if anyone has had any experience w/ cat's claw or any other herbs they found effective... aside from this... also have been on abx for 6 mos and beginning to get horrible stomach pains that never seem to subside any suggestions about what to take to relieve this mylanta and beano arent helping at all any suggestions are welcome and appreciated peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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