Re[4]: Green tea absorbs better with acid added

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Hello Bret,

The first article you mention is on the secondary effect on virus

with anaerobic influences forced on eukaryotic cells. It is the

effect on the cell that is the player here, not a primary effect on

the virus. The other " papers " you have listed are just the type of

thing I am referring to when I mentioned the misinformation that is

passed around the internet. They are expressions of support for

ozone therapy and related efforts.

One of the articles you mention is on aerobic and anaerobic bacteria

and viruses. In this case the word " anaerobic " refers to the

bacteria, not the virus.

Viruses have no repiratory capacity, either anaerobic or aerobic.

Respiration requires a cell, the minimum requirement for a living

organism. There is no anaerobic virus. Articles that refer to

" anaerobic viruses " are part and parcel of misinformed secondary or

tertiary sources, often with an agenda to support.

I'm sure when you did your Google search you found a number of actual

scientific papers which support what I'm saying, but chose to ignore

them.

Also, the point still stands that increasing oxygen pressures in

cells is a technique used to increase viral replication, not decrease

it. An example of this type of thing is the following:

Title : HYPERBARIC OXYGEN ENHANCEMENT OF COXSACKIE VIRUS B-1 INFECTION IN

YOUNG MICE.

I've noticed that a lot of the things you say have merit., but you tend

to speak in absolutes. This might cause people to assume that

everything you are saying is accurate. This is not the case. That's

the problem with speaking so vehemently. It can mislead people.

Cancer is a tough nut to crack. There is no " sure thing " . The

whole field, both mainstream and alternative, is fraught with

uncertainty. It is not helpful for us to posture as though we had

any answers, let alone THE answer. All we can ever say currently is

that a thing " might " be true.

Mike

Saturday, July 25, 2009, 6:12:31 PM, you wrote:

BP> I kind of thought you might have an opinion. At first I thought I was going

insane though!

BP> You scared me,  " did I waiste my time and money with a collegiate major in

microbiology! "

BP> The answer I hope is,... no!

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BP>  Facts and truth are good things; wouldn't we all agree?

BP> I have no further comments here just a question!

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BP>  Please explain the following article by Universtity of

BP> Pennsylvania Microbiology department, School of medicine and subsequent

publications:

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BP> Endogenous type C leukemia viruses have

BP> been demonstrated in a variety of species. They

BP> are vertically transmitted, residing in latent form

BP> within the cellular DNA (5). Various agents,

BP> including halogenated pyrimidines, translational

BP> inhibitors, and 2-deoxyglucose, are capable of

BP> inducing complete expression of these endogenous

BP> viruses, apparently by overcoming transcriptional

BP> controls (1, 8, 11).

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BP> We have reported that subjecting normal

BP> Fischer rat embryo cells to anaerobic stress also

BP> overcomes such transcriptional controls, resulting

BP> in specific induction of, first, the murine

BP> sarcoma virus-rat (src)-related RNA sequences,

BP> followed later by endogenous type C rat leukemia

BP> viral RNA sequences (2). By using anaerobic

BP> stress, the concentrations of both types of these

BP> RNA sequences in normal cells can be elevated

BP> to more than 100-fold greater than the levels

BP> found in normal cells not subjected to this stress.

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BP> The whole article:  http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/reprint/32/1/234.pdf

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BP> Could you comment on these other studies.

BP>  

BP> Oxygen, Cure for Cancer?

BP> Herpes is a virus and viruses are anaerobic. They exist, survive

BP> and proliferate with little or no oxygen present. The herpes virus lacks the

genetic ...

BP> www.balancedforhealth.com/causeofcancer.htm

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BP> HPV an anaerobic virus,....

BP> www.wartcream.com/wart_web_site_why_it_works.php

BP>  

BP> WHAT IS OZONE THERAPY? by Ed McCabe

BP> Therefore, what would happen to these anaerobic viruses and

BP> bacteria if they were to be completely surrounded with a very

BP> energetic form of pure oxygen for ...

BP> www.oxygenmedicine.com/ozonetherapyed.html

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BP> OZONE HAS CURED AIDS IN OVER 300 CASES--Ed McCabe

BP> These viruses and related bacteria are anaerobic. That means

BP> these microbes cannot live in oxygen. Therefore, what would happen to these

anaerobic viruses ...

BP> www.whale.to/v/mccabe.html

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BP> Never Get Sick Again!

BP> Apr 21, 2009 ... So let us use this analogy with harmful

BP> ANAEROBIC viruses and bacteria. If these anaerobic organisms,

BP> which thrive in the absence of oxygen, ...

BP> www.squidoo.com/onemincure

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BP> Suppressed Inventions and Other Discoveries - 08

BP> What would happen to the primitive anaerobic viruses and bacteria

BP> that cause disease if they were to be completely surrounded with a very

energetic form of ...

BP> www.bibliotecapleyades.net/.../suppressed_inventions08.htm

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BP> Oxygen Healing Therapies, Ozone Therapy

BP> Once in the body, the hydrogen peroxide or ozone breaks down into

BP> various oxygen subspecies which contact anaerobic viruses and microbes ...

BP> www.oxygenhealingtherapies.com/intro_ozone.html

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BP> Herpes & Genital Warts

BP> Genital Warts and Herpes are Anaerobic Viruses. ... Colds, flu,

BP> warts, herpes, HPV, cold sores and measles are all anaerobic viruses. ...

BP> www.warttreatment.co.uk/wart_cream_why_it_works.html

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BP> Suppressed Inventions - Google Books Result

BP> by Eisen - 2001 - Science - 560 pages

BP> Bacteria and viruses are almost all anaerobic. " Anaerobic " means

BP> these microbes cannot live in oxygen What would happen to the primitive

anaerobic viruses ...

BP> books.google.com/books?isbn=0399527354...

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BP> Natural Genital Herpes Treatment Method and Theory of Oxygenation ...

BP> Jun 20, 2008 ... The herpes virus is anaerobic, which means it

BP> cannot exist in an ... This build up of acid is again, what causes anaerobic

viruses like the ...

BP> www.articlealley.com/article_559811_17.html

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BP> Pericarditis due to Anaerobic Bacteria

BP> Evaluation of the fluid should include gram, acid-fast, and

BP> silver stains as well as culture for aerobic and anaerobic

BP> bacteria, viruses, mycobacteria, ...

BP> content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Aktion

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BP> YouTube - Bird Flu cure Swine Flu 5

BP> Apr 28, 2009 ... Therefore we add the extra oxygen molecule to

BP> the DNA and in it the virus dies as it is anaerobic or can not

BP> tolerate high levels of oxygen. ...

BP> www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc37gdlAzQE

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BP> TheStealthVirusSupportGroup : Message: Diseases that are anaerobic ...

BP> Viruses are anaerobic. Viruses can only replicate within a cell.

BP> Viruses lack the genetic material to replicate and must rob the host cell of

its missing ...

BP> tech.dir./.../TheStealthVirusSupportGroup/.../100 -

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BP> Thanks for discussion!

BP> bret

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BP> From: Mike Golden <goldenmike@...>

BP> Subject: Re[2]: [ ] Green tea absorbs better with acid added

BP> " Bret Peirce " < >

BP> Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 2:16 PM

BP> Hello Bret,

BP> A virus is not an anaerobe. A virus does not have an energy production

BP> capacity. It uses receptor sites to enter cells. It then uses the

BP> cell's energy production mechanisms for replication. It has no

BP> capacity for respiration, anaerobically or aerobically. It is basically

BP> a piece of information and is not alive. Oxygen is not particularly

BP> toxic to virus. In fact, hyperbaric oxygen is used to stimulate the

BP> production of polio virus and coxsackie virus. A lot of the

BP> information floating around the internet concerning virus, cancer

BP> cells and oxygen is incorrect.

BP> Mike

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