Re: I just got back from the hospital....

[Guest guest]

I'm so sorry you had such a horrible time in the hospital!

I'm going to play devil's advocate, okay? Not all cancers have the ability to

spread and become metastatic. So, there is no way of telling if you have a

cancer that will stay put or start wandering. However, as you discovered

recently, even a cancer that stays put, but continues to grow, can cause severe

health problems and even death.

So, let's try to determine what is working and what isn't working. Do you have

ANY proof that what you are doing is working?

(Conversely, if your cancer can't spread, you don't need chemo. But what about

radiation to treat it locally?)

You are doing:

> LDN (still skeptical about)

> curcumin

> maitake d fraction

> vit d3

> vit c

> ubiquinol

> coq10

> b17

> zymesscence (thinking of switching to Bragg's enzymes for lower price)

> digestive enzymes

(and vegetarian diet)

First, you should be taking modified citrus pectin to help stack the deck

AGAINST mets.

Second, what are you taking in the above list that will actually attack the

cancer? I'm not knowledgeable enough to know what all of those will do.

I see a bunch of stuff that will deal with the body in a long-term situation,

but what about the danger of the cancer growing and injuring you more? I would

think that's what the LDN would do?? And I think IV C is supposed to do that??

These are the questions I would ask an expert.

ar

[Guest guest]

It seems to me if you felt the following, " I was feeling so fatigued and

lifeless that I finally decided to go into ER, " perhaps the Rebounder was not

the wisest thing to do at the moment. One thing that doesn't work for anyone

is over-exertion when exhausted. You did not just say you were tired, but you

used " lifeless and Fatigued " . That is a time for rest and while the benefits

of Rebounding are often spoken to, we're talking " lifeless/Fatigued " . Others

will need to speak to the issues you brought up and we all look forward to

seeing responses.

Joe C.

From: detwa_3017

Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 1:47 PM

Subject: [ ] I just got back from the hospital....

I just spent two horrible days in the hospital and I kind of just want some

insight.

I've posted before about my ulcerated tumor. Well, it had begun bleeding -

rather, spouting blood, literally, whenever I changed the bandages. Silly me,

not realizing that spouting blood like a geyser was not a good thing, lol. I was

feeling so fatigued and lifeless that I finally decided to go into ER, and as

they removed the bandage, it did it again.

Turns out, it had corroded an artery in the back of my neck and that was what

was spurting blood. They cauterized it, then proceeded to tell me that I was

going to have to stay in the hospital for a long time due to the huge growth on

my front neck and the ulceration in the back.

So basically, I had lost a lot of blood and was extremely anemic, but my tumor

in front was pressing against my trachea and the doctor is worried that it might

start attacking my spinal chord in the back. So of course they started their

sales pitch for immediate and aggressive chemo. They pulled out everything in

the bag to convince me. Honestly, I'm extremely confused and frustrated right

now.

I asked about Rituxan, the doc said it did very little on its own for my type of

lymphoma - Intermediate Diffuse B Cell, and insisted that I get R-CHOP. I asked

about IPT, he poo-pooed that idea and said that wasn't effective for my type of

lymphoma either. I asked about chemo tablets, same response.

I really truly feel that I can beat this naturally. I had a CT scan, the first

one in 1.5 years, and amazingly the cancer has NOT spread one bit in all of this

time. No mets anywhere, it is still concentrated in my neck where it began, so

that tells me that my diet and nutritional supplements have had some type of

impact on it by keeping it from spreading. However, I have to get the tumor to

shrink, I have to make progress toward reversing the cancer and not just

maintaining it.

I have " met " so many wonderful people through this journey, people with the same

type of lymphoma, who have reversed it naturally and maintained that success for

many, many years, as many as 20. I feel like, if they can do it, then surely I

can do it too. But right now, after being hit with the chemo sales pitch, I'm

feeling kind of weak and scared and just want a little reassurance that I'm

choosing the right battle.

I was only allowed to leave after I promised to contact the oncologist within a

week to begin treatment. A part of me ALMOST wants to just go ahead and do it so

that the tumor shrinks because its causing me shortness of breath and affects my

voice. But another part of me is screaming that that is the WORSE thing I could

do to myself. I just walked in the door and came straight here to get some input

from you all - if I had had internet access at the hospital, I would have been

online every minute telling you exactly what was going on!

Right now I'm going to go and bounce on my rebounder, take my supplements and

have a green smoothie and just get some rest and see if I feel better later.

Maybe I need to tweak my supplements a bit? I'm taking:

LDN (still skeptical about)

curcumin

maitake d fraction

vit d3

vit c

ubiquinol

coq10

b17

zymesscence (thinking of switching to Bragg's enzymes for lower price)

digestive enzymes

Haven't been eating as healthy as I should and I know that's a big problem but I

do try to stay consistent. After this hospital stay, I'm back on the wagon and

sticking to mostly vegetarian, I find 100% raw to be too hard on my system.

Thanks for reading! Just kind of shell shocked and needed to vent!

Detwa

[Guest guest]

I am amending this statement:

> (Conversely, if your cancer can't spread, you don't need chemo. But what

about radiation to treat it locally?)

I had forgotten that chemo can shrink tumors significantly. So, yes, it can be

used in your case. I understand you don't want to use it, but wanted to correct

what I had said.

ar

[Guest guest]

I am behind in emails. what kind of cancer did you have? I go through

radiation every ten years or so for my treatment. thanks.

[Guest guest]

Detwa,

I have to agree with Joe in regards to the rebounder.  The pressure resulting

from this type of activity could result in rupture and massive hemorrhage. 

Furthermore, you could sustain injury to your spinal column.  I would caution

you to abstain from rebounding and instead use gentler means to increase

lymphatic flow.     

 

Also, if you have active bleeding you must use caution as to the supplements you

are taking, since some of them will increase your PT (prothrombin time).  

Circumin, Bromelain (enzyme), Vit. E, Green Tea, etc. (enzyme) have that type of

effect on the blood. 

 

Are you working with a Naturopath?

 

 

 

 

 

 

It seems to me if you felt the following, " I was feeling so fatigued and

lifeless that I finally decided to go into ER, " perhaps the Rebounder was not

the wisest thing to do at the moment. One thing that doesn't work for anyone is

over-exertion when exhausted. You did not just say you were tired, but you used

" lifeless and Fatigued " . That is a time for rest and while the benefits of

Rebounding are often spoken to, we're talking " lifeless/Fatigued " . Others will

need to speak to the issues you brought up and we all look forward to seeing

responses.

Joe C.

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[Guest guest]

(Gonna answer multiple questions in this reply to keep it consolidated)

I have diffuse large b cell lymphoma, non hodgkins, dx'd a year and a half ago.

I think I've been throwing so many things AT it that I can't really say what is

attacking it. They may ALL just be maintaining it. I know that the maitake is

supposed to prevent mets, and the curcumin is " supposed " to attack the tumor,

but nothing so far has really worked on the tumor.

It only started growing in January, then it grew very rapidly, ironically, after

I started the LDN. I've never read anything bad about LDN so I'm still a bit

concerned that it may have " overmodulated " my immune system, if that's possible?

I've read some people say that their immune system was over stimulated and it

attacked itself(?).

Joe - my fatigue was likely due to the constant loss of blood from the ulcerated

tumor. It was having a session of bleeding nearly once a day.

What are some things I can do at home to combat the anemia? The hospital wanted

to do a blood transfusion but I declined.

I was really interested in doing the Rituxan alone but kind of disappointed that

the doc feels its useless against my kind of lymphoma. I wonder though if

that's his opinion only and another doctor may feel differently.

I tried to be open minded about the chemo but I just can't ignore the

overwhelming stories from people who say they wish they never did it, or the

people who had it and didn't live to complain about it, or the people who just

had really poor results from chemo treatments. It seems to outweigh any

positive stories that I've ever heard.

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> I am amending this statement:

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> > (Conversely, if your cancer can't spread, you don't need chemo. But what

about radiation to treat it locally?)

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> I had forgotten that chemo can shrink tumors significantly. So, yes, it can

be used in your case. I understand you don't want to use it, but wanted to

correct what I had said.

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> ar

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, , that's interesting - before I went to the ER I was taking huge

doses of curcumin and about 3 grams of bromelain daily. I had a feeling that

the curcumin was increasing my bleeding so I stopped it two days before the day

I left just out of paranoia.

Is walking okay, if rebounding is not?

I need to find a new naturopath. I complained about my last naturopath on here

not even bothering to look at my tumor. I feel that if he had even taken a look

at it, he may have seen that it was progressing to the back of my neck and about

to burst through and could have warned me. But he would not even look at it, he

was only focused on selling me all of his products. So I'm going to check out a

new natural doctor to work with.

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lifeless that I finally decided to go into ER, " perhaps the Rebounder was not

the wisest thing to do at the moment. One thing that doesn't work for anyone is

over-exertion when exhausted. You did not just say you were tired, but you used

" lifeless and Fatigued " . That is a time for rest and while the benefits of

Rebounding are often spoken to, we're talking " lifeless/Fatigued " . Others will

need to speak to the issues you brought up and we all look forward to seeing

responses.

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[Guest guest]

Oh, a couple other things. The doctor said that he has drugs to give that will

eliminate any nausea and sickness. This perplexed me since that's what I hear

most chemo patients complain about, so I'm wondering how does HE have this magic

potion that no one else has?

And he brings out some little application on his iphone to show me what my odds

are of successfully benefitting from the chemo, and it comes out to 94%. I'm

not sure what all he used for the calculation, but he says I'm healthy overall

and he asked a few questions and punched that in, and then showed me the 94%

response.

[Guest guest]

>

> Oh, a couple other things. The doctor said that he has drugs to give that

will eliminate any nausea and sickness. This perplexed me since that's what I

hear most chemo patients complain about, so I'm wondering how does HE have this

magic potion that no one else has?

Those on chemo do, indeed, receive these anti-nausea drugs if they ask for them.

But, I think there are some side-effects to some of the drugs. I'm not sure.

> And he brings out some little application on his iphone to show me what my

odds are of successfully benefitting from the chemo, and it comes out to 94%.

I'm not sure what all he used for the calculation, but he says I'm healthy

overall and he asked a few questions and punched that in, and then showed me the

94% response.

There are a few tests available that will determine if your tumor will respond

favorably to chemo. It is one of the methods for stage 1 patients to determine

if they should go ahead with chemo or skip it. One of the tests is called an

Oncotype score - I have no idea if they use it on cancers other than breast.

There are also very expensive tests that can determine what chemo will work on

your tumor. But I think the cost is so much, most people don't do them, or

doctors don't recommend them.

[Guest guest]

I got the same med when I got my thyroid gland out. I got it because I

was vomiting and it just made me vomit more. My mom told the nurce that

I did not need it and I was just fine. I have been cancer free for

thirteen years now and I am happy about that. If you guys want to talk

to me you can feel free to email me anytime. my email address is on my

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[Guest guest]

I would think you could still rebound ... just bounce, though, and don't let

your feel leave the rebounder. But then, I'm not a doctor. I just know that it

is the best way to clear the lymph system and can be done in as little as 5

minutes. You can even sit on it and have someone else bounce it for you to

clear your lymph system. Even Johanna Budwig was in favor of a rebounder.

But do be gentle if you continue to use it.

xoo

[Guest guest]

I didn't even think about the " massive Bleeding " and that's enough to give some

serious thought to this but from my view, looking at the language used:

" Lifeless " and " fatigue " . Hey, we're not talking about never again

Rebounding, where talking a day or however long to get a little more strength

up. Then take advantage of what Rebounding is supposed to do. One's life is

not hanging in the balance by missing a day or a few of rebounding anymore than

'A' portion of Tofu killing us.

Joe C.

From: melizzard11

Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 8:35 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: I just got back from the hospital....

I would think you could still rebound ... just bounce, though, and don't let

your feel leave the rebounder. But then, I'm not a doctor. I just know that it

is the best way to clear the lymph system and can be done in as little as 5

minutes. You can even sit on it and have someone else bounce it for you to clear

your lymph system. Even Johanna Budwig was in favor of a rebounder. But do be

gentle if you continue to use it.

xoo

[Guest guest]

I am surprised that you weren't shown a figure of 100% but let's examine what a

" response " is meant. It means that the tumor will shrink and it is also

generally accepted, while rarely broadcast, that " tumor response " is not

necessarily related to survivability.

When you get an opportunity to speak with your Oncologist, ask exactly what the

term " response " is meant in this situation? Is it " complete Response " or

" Partial Response " and now you need to do some homework to understand the

language or you will be blindly following whatever is suggested without having

enough information to make a good decision. In your situation, perhaps any

shrinkage is going to be beneficial. It still is in your interests to

understand the language.

If anyone wants to get dizzy, look at the following which is an 'assumption'

where 'they' arrive at a 95% Confidence Interval even though, in the case I was

reading, the benefit amounted to only 26% of the patients. Talk about

confusing people.

" In statistics, a confidence interval (CI) is a particular kind of interval

estimate of a population parameter. Instead of estimating the parameter by a

single value, an interval likely to include the parameter is given. Thus,

confidence intervals are used to indicate the reliability of an estimate. How

likely the interval is to contain the parameter is determined by theconfidence

level or confidence coefficient. Increasing the desired confidence level will

widen the confidence interval.

A confidence interval is always qualified by a particular confidence level,

usually expressed as a percentage; thus one speaks of a " 95% confidence

interval " . The end points of the confidence interval are referred to as

confidence limits.

The calculation of a confidence interval generally requires assumptions about

the nature of the estimation process - it is primarily a parametric method - for

example, it may depend on an assumption that the distribution of the population

from which the sample came is normal. As such, confidence intervals as discussed

below are not robust statistics, though modifications can be made to add

robustness - see robust confidence intervals.

Joe C.

BTW, " Assumptions " are often used in any calculations to justify a method and

not just in Oncology. For example, when I was involved with Pension Planning,

the 'Assumption' was that the money in the plan would earn 6% every year. (good

luck). That allowed the plan manager to put in less contributions because it

was 'assumed' that there would be another 6% just from earnings. (Good Luck

again). Now we have thousands of improperly funded plans. Figures don't

lie...........Liars figure.

From: arlynsg

Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 6:42 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: I just got back from the hospital....

>

> Oh, a couple other things. The doctor said that he has drugs to give that will

eliminate any nausea and sickness. This perplexed me since that's what I hear

most chemo patients complain about, so I'm wondering how does HE have this magic

potion that no one else has?

Those on chemo do, indeed, receive these anti-nausea drugs if they ask for them.

But, I think there are some side-effects to some of the drugs. I'm not sure.

> And he brings out some little application on his iphone to show me what my

odds are of successfully benefitting from the chemo, and it comes out to 94%.

I'm not sure what all he used for the calculation, but he says I'm healthy

overall and he asked a few questions and punched that in, and then showed me the

94% response.

There are a few tests available that will determine if your tumor will respond

favorably to chemo. It is one of the methods for stage 1 patients to determine

if they should go ahead with chemo or skip it. One of the tests is called an

Oncotype score - I have no idea if they use it on cancers other than breast.

There are also very expensive tests that can determine what chemo will work on

your tumor. But I think the cost is so much, most people don't do them, or

doctors don't recommend them.

[Guest guest]

Dear Dear Detwa,

I am Vishwa from Sri Lanka and though I do not have a current reason to stay on

this group I continue to read most of the interesting or important posts

specially I read all your posts including replies to them.

Once I happened to contact Mr Dennis who is now cured from his colon C and

as far as we discussed he has used Graviola to attack cancer and Immunocal (pls

note I do not sell it). I also believe though I can not advise you Paw Paw Reg

Cel (a capsule made of twigs of a Graviola family tree) that would attack the

weaker cells including MDR cells that can not be destroyed by Chemo, why don't

you try on internet and see. I brought it down from a company called Healthy

Sunshine in USA but unfortunately I was too late for the purpose and the

relations of the patient did not allow me to administer though 7-8 oncos had

given her only 7-17months (LOL isn't it)

MY HEARTED BLESSINGS TO YOU AND I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT YOUR COURAGE AND EFFORT

WILL CHASE A WAY THAT RUDE TUMOR FROM YOU.

May the tripple gem bless upon you.

Vishwa

dennismay @ hotmail.com

I just spent two horrible days in the hospital and I kind of just want some

insight.

I've posted before about my ulcerated tumor. Well, it had begun bleeding -

rather, spouting blood, literally, whenever I changed the bandages. Silly me,

not realizing that spouting blood like a geyser was not a good thing, lol. I

was feeling so fatigued and lifeless that I finally decided to go into ER, and

as they removed the bandage, it did it again.

Turns out, it had corroded an artery in the back of my neck and that was what

was spurting blood. They cauterized it, then proceeded to tell me that I was

going to have to stay in the hospital for a long time due to the huge growth on

my front neck and the ulceration in the back.

So basically, I had lost a lot of blood and was extremely anemic, but my tumor

in front was pressing against my trachea and the doctor is worried that it might

start attacking my spinal chord in the back. So of course they started their

sales pitch for immediate and aggressive chemo. They pulled out everything in

the bag to convince me. Honestly, I'm extremely confused and frustrated right

now.

I asked about Rituxan, the doc said it did very little on its own for my type of

lymphoma - Intermediate Diffuse B Cell, and insisted that I get R-CHOP. I asked

about IPT, he poo-pooed that idea and said that wasn't effective for my type of

lymphoma either. I asked about chemo tablets, same response.

I really truly feel that I can beat this naturally.....

[Guest guest]

Hi all I know RIBOSE is good for a tired body & heart. Dr Rath Lysine etc.

cancer protocol stops diff cancers from spreading just type in on this site

search RIBOSE, Dr Rath,IP6,Chemo,Budwig,B17 http://tinyurl.com/88mon

[Guest guest]

Yes, his little iphone app was very cute to me, lol. I guess it was supposed to

impress me and make me say, well, if Apple says I should do chemo, then sign me

up!

I think they deliberately keep internet access out of the ward there so you

can't get online and research what they are telling you. Because I certainly

would have been on here telling you guys everything the doctors said to me, lol.

They would have been livid!

Anyway, thanks to everyone for ALL of the responses. I'm feeling so much better

today already, just having been home, eating fresh fruits, had a green smoothie,

a good night's sleep, and access to my vitamins. I don't see how they expected

me to overcome anemia being there, no wonder they wanted to give me a blood

transfusion. I might have some red wine today!

I've been able to go back through and read all of the messages that I've already

read, just to remind myself of what I already knew. Sometimes you just need

reassurance because you start to doubt yourself. It's like, well.....maybe?

Maybe if I get the chemo they can shrink the tumor and I can get off of this

merry go round? But I've sat here and read about other people's experiences and

also remembered dear friends of mine telling me how they felt like they were

dying when they were going through the infusions. I don't know how I ever

forgot any of that.

I watched a very close friend go from happy and healthy with just a small rash

on her breast, straight into aggressive treatment, and she just withered away

over the next 2 years, quickly and gruesomely. And then I remember my mom who

was dx'd with breast cancer and told that she needed chemo right away. She

walked away and lived for 20 more years with NO treatment.

What was I thinking? That just shows you how they can really play games with

your head when you go to see them. And then friends and family are involved

because you're now IN the hospital and they're all saying, do it, do it or

you'll die!

I will continue resting and regaining my energy. I won't overdo it with the

rebounding, I think the light bouncing should be okay just to stimulate the

lymph fluids. I know if I continue to detox my body and get it healthy, the

immune system will take care of the tumor. It may take a while, but it will be

the healthy way to do it.

I so appreciate all of the input and will continue reading!

>

> I am surprised that you weren't shown a figure of 100% but let's examine what

a " response " is meant. It means that the tumor will shrink and it is also

generally accepted, while rarely broadcast, that " tumor response " is not

necessarily related to survivability.

>

[Guest guest]

Ar wrote :

> I had forgotten that chemo can shrink tumors significantly. So, yes, it can

be used in your case. I understand you don't want to use it, but wanted to

correct what I had said.

>

My two cents:

The failure rate of chemo is between 60 t0 90 %. on this type of cancer..what

will be the point in doing chemo ?

It seems that chemo could get a partial response : at least a 30% decrease in

the sum of the longest diameter (LD) of target lesions at the best and for a

while..

Many substances can achieve this result without the deadly side effects of chemo

[Guest guest]

That's what I feel, shaman. It doesn't seem worth the risk, even though I

constantly read that chemo is effective for lymphomas, the risk is just not

worth it. My doctor even went on about how you take a risk everytime you drive

your car or even walk down the street, and he said I should take that risk for

my family!

I'm not a gambler so maybe that plays a part in my not seeing the odds in this

as very high! I don't even like to lose that $1 on a lottery ticket so I don't

play.

I'm afraid of what it will damage in the process.

>

> My two cents:

>

> The failure rate of chemo is between 60 t0 90 %. on this type of cancer..what

will be the point in doing chemo ?

> It seems that chemo could get a partial response : at least a 30% decrease in

the sum of the longest diameter (LD) of target lesions at the best and for a

while..

>

> Many substances can achieve this result without the deadly side effects of

chemo

>

[Guest guest]

Please explain the REBOUNDING...new to group so not sure what that means as well

as benefits if any

________________________________

From: detwa_3017 <epurdles@...>

Sent: Sun, June 27, 2010 5:05:27 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: I just got back from the hospital....

That's what I feel, shaman. It doesn't seem worth the risk, even though I

constantly read that chemo is effective for lymphomas, the risk is just not

worth it. My doctor even went on about how you take a risk everytime you drive

your car or even walk down the street, and he said I should take that risk for

my family!

I'm not a gambler so maybe that plays a part in my not seeing the odds in this

as very high! I don't even like to lose that $1 on a lottery ticket so I don't

play.

I'm afraid of what it will damage in the process.

>

> My two cents:

>

> The failure rate of chemo is between 60 t0 90 %. on this type of cancer..what

will be the point in doing chemo ?

> It seems that chemo could get a partial response : at least a 30% decrease in

the sum of the longest diameter (LD) of target lesions at the best and for a

while..

>

> Many substances can achieve this result without the deadly side effects of

chemo

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Please explain the REBOUNDING...new to group so not sure what that means as

well as benefits if any

Rebounding is jumping on a mini-trampoline, called a rebounder. It is supposed

to help keep the lymph system clear.

ar

[Guest guest]

You wrote " And he brings out some little application on his iphone to show me

what my odds

are of successfully benefitting from the chemo, and it comes out to 94%. "

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Yes, to 94 % .... I will do a preventive chemo today listening to your

incompetent, ignorant, scam artist of doctor. I am not a doctor but I can read

the statistics published in the journal of Clinical Oncology in December 2004

Non Hodgkin Lymphoma on a 5 years survival impact of cytotoxic Chemo :

10 % . This number is the best they can come with, not counting people who died

from the " cure " : after 5 years or during the five years from complications!!!

http://www.jmbblog.com/2010/05/how-effective-is-chemotherapy/

You Know what he should do with his Ipod ? ...

I am sorry ... I have seen how they killed my mother in law victim of exactly

the same disease. !! Chemo after chemo and radiations...

You have to stick to your alkaline VEGAN Diet ... mostly raw...ORGANIC..

You wrote that you are not doing very well with this diet ...

At the beginning.. nobody does.. as you are cleaning, cleansing your body...

years of toxins are leaving your organism and you will always have some

discomfort for the first three weeks.

You can't be taking curcumin now as it is a blood thinner.

Nutrition is a Key in your recovery... do not give up.. stay on the wagon !!

If you want a glass of wine , drink a good organic wine.. no more chemical for

your body !!!

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> > I am surprised that you weren't shown a figure of 100% but let's examine

what a " response " is meant. It means that the tumor will shrink and it is also

generally accepted, while rarely broadcast, that " tumor response " is not

necessarily related to survivability.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

LOL, I agree with you, shaman. I've got so many people pushing me to " just take

the chemo " and I try to send them links to articles to read, but they have been

conditioned to believe that chemo is the cure.

I'm pretty confident in my decision at this point, just have to adjust my fight

to really start showing some results.

I have been following the blog of a young woman with Hodgkins Lymphoma for about

a year now, and she went 100% raw. I noticed she hadn't updated in a few weeks

and today she posted that her condition had gotten worse and she was going to

begin 6 months of chemo after all. I feel really badly for her and wish she had

other options.

this is her blog, if anyone wants to send her advice:

http://amoderngirlslife.blogspot.com/

I really hate how she says that in life we have to suffer a little, because i

don't believe this is what we have to endure.

>

> You wrote " And he brings out some little application on his iphone to show me

what my odds

> are of successfully benefitting from the chemo, and it comes out to 94%. "

>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, ar is right, if used even lightly, it bounces your body up and down and

basically jogs your lymph system. It obviously hasn't shrunk my tumor on its

own, but I do know that whenever I feel pressure in my tumor, I get on the

rebounder and bounce for a few minutes and it does relieve the pressure, so its

doing something to help the flow in that area.

> >

> > Please explain the REBOUNDING...new to group so not sure what that means as

well as benefits if any

>

> Rebounding is jumping on a mini-trampoline, called a rebounder. It is

supposed to help keep the lymph system clear.

>

> ar

>

[Guest guest]

I was begged by a friend to go with the " tried and true " cures. Thankfully my

family support my choices no matter how long I have left.

I will live as long as I will and spend each day healthy not so sick I can not

spend happy time or even bad times fighting and enjoying life and my kids

& #9829;

Cheri

> >

> > You wrote " And he brings out some little application on his iphone to show

me what my odds

> > are of successfully benefitting from the chemo, and it comes out to 94%. "

> >

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> >

>

[Guest guest]

I went to see her blog , she actually decided May 7th to follow the advice of

her new Doctor and to go on a raw diet.

As she put herself in her blog at

http://amoderngirlslife.blogspot.com/2010/05/my-new-doctor.html

" With regards to the low sugar, raw diet, I guess I am lucky that I am almost

there already so it will not be a big shock for me. However, I had somehow

convinced myself that as long as I am eating raw, and before that vegan, and

cutting out all processed sugars, that I would be on the right path. Looking

back over the last few months my sweet tooth has ruled my diet, even though they

were mostly natural sugars. Lots of sweet fruits, agave nectar and, well, you

just need to take a look at my trip to Lismore to see how much sugar I consumed

on that little trip " .

Her friend will start blogging from the Gerson Clinic in mexico.. ..

http://thewellnesswarrior.blogspot.com/

Let's pray for the best :-)

" detwa_3017 " <epurdles@...> wrote:

>

> LOL, I agree with you, shaman. I've got so many people pushing me to " just

take the chemo " and I try to send them links to articles to read, but they have

been conditioned to believe that chemo is the cure. I'm pretty confident in my

decision at this point, just have to adjust my fight to really start showing

some results.

>

> I have been following the blog of a young woman with Hodgkins Lymphoma for

about a year now, and she went 100% raw. I noticed she hadn't updated in a few

weeks and today she posted that her condition had gotten worse and she was going

to begin 6 months of chemo after all. I feel really badly for her and wish she

had other options.

>

> this is her blog, if anyone wants to send her advice:

>

> http://amoderngirlslife.blogspot.com/

>

> I really hate how she says that in life we have to suffer a little, because i

don't believe this is what we have to endure.

>