Neuropathy

[Guest guest]

Hi Toni,

I get those stabbing pains in my head also. They seem

to come and go. I have a lot of all over body pain

(joint, muscle & nerve). My LLMD just started me on

the Duragesic pain patch because I am so sick of being

in pain. I dont know how well it works yet because it

takes time & I just started yesterday. I was taking

Vicodin for the pain but it didnt always help. Good

luck, I hope you get relief soon.

--- Toni Gray <tgray@...> wrote:

> Does anyone having stabbing pain in their head. My

> neuropathy is out of

> control right now. It started with the sciatic

> nerve and pain in the back.

> This morning I woke up with excruciating pain in my

> head and the rest of my

> body. I was just curious to see if anyone else has

> this and what helps for

> the pain.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info Kim. I can't take Vicodin due to me being allergic to

codeine, but i am going to try Ultram. I woke up in the middle of the night

again with extreme neuropathy. I take klonopin and trazadone at night and

that helps some but I will use the ultram during the day, and if that

doesn't work I may ask for the duragesic pain patch.

Re: [ ] neuropathy

Hi Toni,

I get those stabbing pains in my head also. They seem

to come and go. I have a lot of all over body pain

(joint, muscle & nerve). My LLMD just started me on

the Duragesic pain patch because I am so sick of being

in pain. I dont know how well it works yet because it

takes time & I just started yesterday. I was taking

Vicodin for the pain but it didnt always help. Good

luck, I hope you get relief soon.

--- Toni Gray <tgray@...> wrote:

> Does anyone having stabbing pain in their head. My

> neuropathy is out of

> control right now. It started with the sciatic

> nerve and pain in the back.

> This morning I woke up with excruciating pain in my

> head and the rest of my

> body. I was just curious to see if anyone else has

> this and what helps for

> the pain.

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I had the same thing headaches unbearable and then jaw pain . It turns out to

be TMJ . I went to the dentist and wear a retainer and this is alleviating

the pain. Anyone else have TMJ with lyme?

Patty

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I have had TMJ most of my adult life, had two molars out when I was a child

and assumed the shifting caused it. Did not know it was related to Lyme,

but then I guess all this stuff is related. I have had all my teeth removed

and a full implant on the bottom (make of titanium) with still a temporary

(plastic-like) denture on the top. Still have TMJ and I think my new DMD

here in PA is going to treat it with improving my bite when he does my top

denture next year.

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----- Original Message -----

From: <DMGPMG1@...>Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 11:10 AM

> I had the same thing headaches unbearable and then jaw pain . It turns out

to

> be TMJ . I went to the dentist and wear a retainer and this is alleviating

> the pain. Anyone else have TMJ with lyme?

> Patty

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam

I developed neuropathy. It started when I was on tx & was one of the

reasons I was taken off tx. It then became progressive & I'm on 2 meds

for it. They're neurontin & Keppra. Both are anti seizure drugs. They're

not eliminating many of the symptoms, though.

Feel well--Kitzabu Jeanie

kitzabu@...

ICQ# 9881060

Civia, Inc.

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[Guest guest]

http://www.postgradmed.com/issues/2000/01_00/smallridge.htm

this next one is much better---below link

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/health_and_medical/pubs/peripheral_neuropathy

..htm

[Guest guest]

thewfamily@... writes:

> NAC at 500 4-5 times a day pulls out all the chemo and radiation over time.

>

Would this mean that if I take NAC daily that any dental xray radiation will be

pulled out?

[Guest guest]

NAC at 500 4-5 times a day pulls out all the chemo and radiation over time.

Johanne

From: jrrjim

Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:56 PM

Subject: [ ] Neuropathy

Five months after ending chemo, I am still suffering from significant

neuropathy in my hands and feet (numbness and tingling). The primary

culprit in this situation is the drug oxaliplatin -- a platinum

containing compound that really screws up the nerves.

Does anyone have any suggestions for getting rid of this problem

naturally? I was considering some chelation, but I think the nerve

damage is already in place, whether or not there is still platinum in

my body. But maybe I'm wrong -- maybe the platinum is the culprit.

[Guest guest]

The clay people claim that persisting chemo and radiation damage may be reversed

over time by the ingestion of Calcium bentonite clay.  Only a good quality high

pH clay should be used...but only the calcium type...not the sodium type.  You

can buy A's ( Arledge's) book on the internet and learn how to do

it. 

mrg

[ ] Neuropathy

Five months after ending chemo, I am still suffering from significant

neuropathy in my hands and feet (numbness and tingling).  The primary

culprit in this situation is the drug oxaliplatin -- a platinum

containing compound that really screws up the nerves.

Does anyone have any suggestions for getting rid of this problem

naturally?  I was considering some chelation, but I think the nerve

damage is already in place, whether or not there is still platinum in

my body.  But maybe I'm wrong -- maybe the platinum is the culprit.

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I CAN'T TELL YOU THE FUTURE AND I SUPPOSE IF YOU GET A HAIR ANALYSIS YOU WILL

SEE WHAT IS IN THERE.

YES, NAC PULLS OUT EVERYTHING AS YOUR BODY CAN RELEASE IT.

Johanne

From: szukipoo@...

Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:40 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Neuropathy

thewfamily@... writes:

> NAC at 500 4-5 times a day pulls out all the chemo and radiation over time.

>

Would this mean that if I take NAC daily that any dental xray radiation will be

pulled out?

[Guest guest]

Glass wrote:

The clay people claim that persisting chemo and radiation damage may

be reversed over time by the ingestion of Calcium bentonite clay. 

Only a good quality high pH clay should be used...but only the calcium

type...not the sodium type.  You can buy A's ( Arledge's)

book on the internet and learn how to do it. 

mrg

[Guest guest]

On Jun 19, 2008, at 11:56 AM, jrrjim wrote:

> Does anyone have any suggestions for getting rid of this problem

> naturally? I was considering some chelation, but I think the nerve

> damage is already in place, whether or not there is still platinum in

> my body.

Here are some posts I've collected-

From: basenjo@...

Subject: [ ] acupuncture for neuropathy

Date: April 18, 2008 11:45:00 PM PDT

Reply-

This may interest you, Al. Although the group consisted of HIV

patients, the results are impressive. Scroll down to the final two

sentences for the conclusion, if you want to skip the statistical mumbo

jumbo.

Effect of Acupuncture on Pain and Subjective Peripheral Neuropathy in

Persons with HIV

KD, et al. Department of Family and Community Medicine,

University of Texas Health Science Center at San , San ,

TX.

Researchers tested 21 subjects to determine the effect of 5 weeks of

acupuncture treatment in a group setting on pain and symptoms of

peripheral neuropathy in patients with human immunodeficiency virus

(HIV). The subjects completed the Pain Rating Scale and the Subjective

Peripheral Neuropathy Screen (SPNS) before and after 5 weeks of

acupuncture. The acupuncture treatments occurred two evenings per week.

Each of the 10 sessions consisted of participants receiving 10-15

needle insertions in acupoints that addressed the individual's changing

pattern of pain, sleep problems, or other health issues. The treatment

utilized only main or common points located below the elbows and knees,

and on the head, neck, and ears. Only reactive points were used in the

acupuncture treatments. Needles were left in situ for 30-45 minutes.

A comparison of the pretreatment and post-treatment Pain Rating Scale

results indicated a significant reduction in present pain (p = 0.0002),

least and most pain in the last 24 hours (p < 0.0001 and p = 0.0004,

respectively) and the total pain summary score (p < 0.0001). Symptoms

reported in the SPNS were reduced during the 5 weeks of acupuncture.

Scores for pain/aching/burning, pins and needles, and numbness in the

hands and feet were reduced (all significant at less than p 0.0065), as

well as the total summary score (p = 0.0001). Researchers concluded the

results of this study indicate that subjective pain and symptoms of

peripheral neuropathy were reduced during the period of individual

acupuncture therapy delivered in a group setting. While the study

design did not allow for control of nonspecific placebo factors, the

data support the hypothesis that acupuncture in a group setting can

reduce pain and neuropathic symptoms in HIV-infected individuals.

For what's it's worth, I've had success with acupuncture for a variety

of problems, from depression to back pain.

Bill

Bill Asenjo, PhD, CRC

www.billasenjo.com

basenjo@...

Cell 319-461-4516

Phone/Fax 319-658-2016

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From: basenjo@...

Subject: [ ] peripheral neuropathy & ALA

Date: April 24, 2008 3:20:41 PM PDT

Reply-

* Alpha Lipoic Acid - In Germany, alpha-lipoic acid is an approved

medical treatment for peripheral neuropathy. It speeds the removal of

glucose from the bloodstream, at least partly by enhancing insulin

function, and it reduces insulin resistance, an underpinning of many

cases of coronary heart disease and obesity. The therapeutic dose for

lipoic acid is 600 mg/day. The richest food source of alpha-lipoic acid

is red meat – but to ensure proper health, use lean cuts of organic

beef that has not been subject to antibiotics or feed lot practices.

Bill Asenjo, PhD, CRC

==============================

From: robert-blau@...

Subject: [never_do_harm_to_anyone] Vitamin D helps relieve pain among

diabetic patients with neuropathy

Date: April 25, 2008 3:08:05 PM PDT

searching-alternatives ,

SymphonicHealth , oleandersoup ,

never_do_harm_to_anyone

Reply- never_do_harm_to_anyone

Moderator's Note:

To find out lots about Vitamin D, do a search under " Vitamin D

Counsel, " where you will see what some of the most knowledgeable

scientists in the world say about Vitamin D.

Of course, with regard to Vitamin D relieving neuropathy pain, the best

thind is to eat and live so as not to get diabetes in the first place!

Get off the Standard American Diet and onto the Gerson/Genesis diet!

Vitamin D helps relieve pain among diabetic patients with neuropathy

A research letter published in the April 14, 2008 issue of the American

Medical Association journal Archives of Internal Medicine reported that

vitamin D supplementation reduced pain levels in patients with diabetic

neuropathy. The condition occurs when high levels of glucose damage the

nerves, and can include burning, tingling, numbness, and throbbing

sensations.

Drs Lee and Chen of the Concord Repatriation General Hospital

in New South Wales, Australia enrolled 51 type 2 diabetics with

neuropathy for the study. Pain severity was rated via two questionnaires

and serum 25 hydroxyvitamin D and parathyroid hormone levels were

measured at the beginning and end of the treatment period. All

participants were found to have insufficient levels of vitamin D at less

than 24 nanograms per cubic milliliter at the study's onset, and were

given a mean dose of 2,059 IU of the vitamin for three months. Continue

Reading [search at lef.org]

Neuropathy

In all forms of neuropathy, there is abnormal stimulation of nerves or

damage that results in pain. Peripheral nerves are sensitive conduits

that carry impulses from the extremities back to the central nervous

system (i.e., the spinal cord and brain). Impulses are transmitted along

nerves by changes in the electrical charge of the cell membrane caused

by movement of ions such as sodium, potassium, and calcium. Impulses are

transmitted between nerves by neurotransmitters such as acetylcholine

and substance P, which is responsible for transmitting pain impulses.

For protection, most nerves are covered with a thin sheath called

myelin, which is made from choline and lipids. The myelin functions like

the rubber wrapping around an electrical cord: it insulates the nerve

fibers and prevents abnormal transmissions.

Depending on the nature of the specific neuropathy, some part of this

system breaks down. In diabetic neuropathy, for example, there is a

change in the microvascular network that supplies the nerve with

nutrients. This lack of blood supply and nutrients causes the nerve to

function abnormally. Diabetic neuropathy tends to occur in more than one

nerve area (this condition is called polyneuropathy) and may cause loss

of sensation and pain that typically worsens at night. In severe cases,

diabetics can suffer from a kind of neuropathy called autonomic

neuropathy. In this case, the autonomic nervous system, which controls

automatic body functions, is affected with possibly serious

consequences, including gastrointestinal problems, bladder-emptying

problems, abnormal heart rhythms, and even sudden death (El-Atat FA et

al 2004). Continue Reading [search at lef.org]

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From: ddarrin@......

Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue / NIACIN

Date: October 18, 2007 9:26:07 PM PDT

silver-list@...

Nenah:

Glad to have you back!

I well know the power of Niacin, the first time I used it I took a 500

mg tablet and waited about a half an hour for the flush, it didn't come

so I took another one. I turned bright red all over ( not like a swim

suit) and the slightest movement made me feel like I was rolling in

fiberglass insulation. My heart rate came up until it seemed close to

that of a jackhammer.

That lasted for 12 hours, so that is why I always say to start small

and work up.

Now I take 3 grams and get a mild flush which is my goal. The niacin

has rid me of all spider veins and turned my numb right foot back to

normal for a 20 year old. I'm 72. Sounds to me like Hubbard may be

full of it!

Dave

=======================

From: " Dave " <ddarrin@.......

<silver-list@...>

Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:17 AM

Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue

....I never felt right for 42 years, Then I diagnosed my problem myself

with the help of the Internet and cured it with CS in three days.

Chronic Fatigue, Pain and Arthritis were the main problems (as well as

brain fog) and I'm sure they would have called it one of those if given

the chance. It even went so far that they wanted to remove the

cartilage from my affected joints. After whipping the Lyme I cured the

arthritis with CMO , Glucosamine, Condroitin along with 6 grams a day

of vitamin C and equal amount of L-Lysine and 6 grams of Niacin to help

the circulation of these things to the joints. If you want to try this

start very small on the niacin as the flush can be severe until you

build up a resistance.

Dave

=================================

Hi Dave.

Glad to hear that you finally healed yourself. What a story!

You mentioned building up a resistance to niacin so after a while you

don't flush from it. You may not know that although this is a common

perception of many, there are other factors involved. I thought I'd

share with you a tidbit about niacin from my book on sauna therapy,

======beginning excerpt======

Niacin (also called nicotinic acid or Vitamin B-3) is known as the

" flushing " vitamin because it causes the skin to redden or become

flushed due to capillary enlargement and increased blood flow. It also

makes the skin feel itchy and prickly. If people take high enough doses

of B-3, they sometimes also feel nauseated, dizzy, disoriented, and

even mentally unstable and volatile. For these reasons, niacinamide --

a close relative chemically to niacin that does not cause skin flush or

other symptoms -- has become a popular substitute. However, it turns

out that this " flushing " property unique to niacin is not only crucial

to the detoxification process, but indicates that a detoxification

process is actually occurring.

Hubbard's research on niacin, begun in 1950, explains how

this detox process works. In Clear Body, Clear Mind: The Effective

Purification Program, he wrote:

Odd manifestations occurred when this vitamin [niacin] was administered

to individuals. Its most startling effect was that it would turn on, in

a red flush, a sunburn on the person's body in an exact pattern of a

bathing suit! These were very neat patterns. The bathing suit outline

was unmistakable. What kind of " educated vitamin " was this that caused

bodies to turn on a flush exactly like a previous sunburn, showing the

exact pattern of a bathing suit outline?

Could it be, Hubbard wondered, that niacin in itself does

not cause a flush, but instead causes the body to start discharging old

waste materials that had been stored in the fatty tissue? What if these

people were simply recovering from a prior case of sun poisoning,

acquired from too much sunbathing while in a swim suit? The subjects in

this research program took carefully controlled dosages of niacin. At a

200 mg. (milligram) dose, the " sunburnlike " flushes eventually

disappeared, at which point the dose was increased to 500 mg. At a 500

mg. dose, the flushes recurred, but with less intensity, at which point

the dose was increased to 1000 mg. (which equals one gram). At a 1000

mg. dose, there was a small reaction for several days, at which point

the dose was increased, and so on. Finally, at a 2000 mg. dose, Hubbard

reported, there were no more niacin flush " side " effects. " The person

would feel fine, his 'sunburn' would be gone, and he would experience

no more flush from the niacin. "

Both British and American pharmacopoeia agencies, Hubbard

also pointed out, " advertised " that the niacin flush -- presumably an

intrinsic characteristic of the vitamin -- is inherently negative to

the body, and thus " toxic " in large amounts. " But if niacin was toxic, "

the author asked, " how was it that the more you 'overdosed' [on] it the

sooner you no longer experienced the sunburnlike flushes from it? "

Those in orthodox medicine circles hypothesized that this was an

example of the body's adjusting to unfavorable conditions by repressing

the symptoms, and thus appearing asymptomatic. But this hypothesis was

completely unsatisfactory, in view of the bathing suit outline on the

test subjects! Nevertheless, Hubbard's revealing evidence was mostly

ignored by mainstream doctors and scientists. They didn't consider

Hubbard qualified to do research, regardless of how carefully he

designed his experiments or how coherent and rational his observations

were.

Six years later, Hubbard had the opportunity to gather even

more compelling data when working with subjects who had been exposed to

fallout from atomic bomb tests, atomic accidents, and materials that

had been part of an old atomic bomb explosion. " In 1956, " he wrote,

" niacin was reacting differently on people than it had in 1950, and the

effects were more severe. "

People on the research program in 1950 had experienced only past

sunburn flushes. In 1956, people on the research program, while

experiencing a flush, were also experiencing nausea, skin irritations,

hives, colitis and other uncomfortable manifestations, on the same

vitamin and in the same dosages as had been used in 1950.

One highly significant detail is that some of the same people

participated in both Hubbard's earlier and later research. What had

changed? Only the newly developed health problems the subjects brought

with them to the second research project! The first group of research

subjects, who needed to recover from sun poisoning, developed symptoms

uniquely related to their condition. The second group manifested

symptoms specific to atomic radiation poisoning (as well as more

symptoms in general) because they had been exposed to nuclear waste.

Hubbard's explanation 50 years ago was convincing then, and seems

equally convincing today: that niacin is an effective and powerful

catalyst that induces the body's detoxification response without itself

becoming transformed in the change. Niacin's use in sauna therapy is

also a wonderful choice since its dilation of surface blood vessels

allows heat to escape.

======end excerpt======

--By the way, I'm glad to be re-subscribed to this list, after a fairly

long hiatus.

Nenah

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[Guest guest]

>

> Hubbard's research on niacin, begun in 1950, explains how

> this detox process works. In Clear Body, Clear Mind: The Effective

> Purification Program, he wrote:

>

> buncha stuff

L. Ron Hubbard?

I would assume that his " research " would be suspicious.

However, as far as niacin and detox goes -- yes it does work. I'll

tell you how I know -- I had a friend that had a bit of a drug

problem and was on probation. Three days before his mandatory urine

test, he would start taking niacin like crazy. He said all the

druggies did that, and the niacin would flush out enough drugs so

that they would show " clean " on the urine tests.

Goldenseal is also very powerful. So powerful, in fact, that the

same drug tests mentioned above would test for goldenseal, and if

they found it, you flunked the test, regardless of what else they

found. The guys on probation were warned of this.

[Guest guest]

Too late for me Rhoda -- I already had the chemo and it already caused

the damage. Preventing damage is different than healing it once done.

>

> The Life Extension site *www.LEF.org* has extensive suggestions for

dealing

> with diabetic neuropathy. I followed their suggestions while doing

chemo,

> and had none. Rhoda

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Someone could be a good scientist but turn into a religious kook,

couldn't they?

I just forwarded the posts as they were posted. I know of other people

who are good scientists but spiritually kooky.

I've had some experience with Niacin and detox, not drugs but

histamines from allergies. The post about using Niacin to overcome

numbness in the feet was directly applicable to the neuropathy

question.

On Jun 20, 2008, at 8:15 AM, jrrjim wrote:

> L. Ron Hubbard?

>

> I would assume that his " research " would be suspicious.

>

> However, as far as niacin and detox goes -- yes it does work.

[Guest guest]

I would love to try the Niacin. Do you have a specific brand and dosage for

detox from Chemo.

Thanks

Al

Tad Winiecki wrote:

Someone could be a good scientist but turn into a religious kook,

couldn't they? I just forwarded the posts as they were posted. I know of other

people who are good scientists but spiritually kooky.

I've had some experience with Niacin and detox, not drugs but

histamines from allergies. The post about using Niacin to overcome

numbness in the feet was directly applicable to the neuropathy

question.

On Jun 20, 2008, at 8:15 AM, jrrjim wrote:

> L. Ron Hubbard?

> I would assume that his " research " would be suspicious.

> However, as far as niacin and detox goes -- yes it does work.

[Guest guest]

On Jun 20, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Al Hurt wrote:

> I would love to try the Niacin. Do you have a specific brand and

> dosage for detox from Chemo.

> Thanks

> Al

Al- the man who used this says he started with 500 mg but I consider

that a high dose. Niacin reacts with histamine in the body, so it can

cause a strong reaction the first time. I would start with more like

50-100 mg and work up. It can actually be used to detect food

allergies. I forget if it were taken before eating the food or after

but flushing would indicate an allergy. I took it every night and

after a while stopped flushing until I started eating something I was

allergic to and got tired of the flushing so quit. It can have a good

effect on the blood vessels.

The man in the testimony I posted worked up to 3g to affect his numb

foot, which would be a lot (I think he also mentions 6 g but I can't

imagine that). If I were increasing dosages and had a lot of flushing

I would attempt to find out if a food was acting as an allergen to

minimize the flushing. I gave my DH some once without telling him

about the flushing and he thought something major was happening to

him.:-) It can be rather unpleasantly prickly at times but when

wearing off it gives a nice warm relaxing glow. I am very frugal so

use really cheap stuff, so can't really recommend a brand. I may get

inspired and take some again. Best wishes,

[Guest guest]

I have a friend who is being treated for Multiple Myeloma. She also

has Neuropathy. While she is going through her treatment for the mm

she is trying to find other treatments for the Neuropathy. The

medicine makes her very nauseous. Does anyone have any suggestions

complementary supplements?

Eunice

[Guest guest]

My husband has myeloma and is combining conventional treatments (thalidomide

and dexamethasone) with the Gerson protocol. We have been very worried about

neuropathy from the thalidomide, but so far (19 months later) he doesn't

seem to have any significant PN (the studies say that " virtually 100% " of

people develop neuropathy from thalidomide after a year). I believe the

Gerson protocol (diet, juices and enemas) has helped him, but also he has

been taken certain supplements that are supposed to help neuropathy. In

particular, Vitamin 3, Vitamin B12, B complex, alpha lipoic acid, selenium,

zinc, acetyl L carnitine. He also takes 8 grams of curcumin a day.

From: eterrydotcom

I have a friend who is being treated for Multiple Myeloma. She also

has Neuropathy. While she is going through her treatment for the mm

she is trying to find other treatments for the Neuropathy. The

medicine makes her very nauseous. Does anyone have any suggestions

complementary supplements? Eunice

[Guest guest]

Dear Joanne,

I tried Neurontin for Migraines. After 4 months on a VERY low dose,

it gave me vertigo. Driving was impossible. The vertigo

significantly improved when I stopped the Neurontin, but I still have

some problems with it occasionally. I wish I had never taken it.

Lilac

>

> >

> > Hi Bee,

> > I had another horrific night and did some research on the internet

> > about my problem with burning sensations in my legs, chest and

arms.

> > It looks like some sort of neuropathy or paresthesia. I am seeing

a

> > naturopathic doctor today and from our conversation, he believes

it is

> > an auto immune disorder. All natural healing methods go along with

> > your diet and supplements but there are a few conventioanal drugs

that

> > would help like Elevil or Neurontin. My question is, can we still

heal

> > when taking those types of drugs. I need some relief.

> > Thanks Bee,

> > Joanne

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Joanne, Neurontin and Elavil are horrible drugs that causes all kinds

of problems. Have you tried the diet ? I also had the burning

extremities and it was horrible. But it went away.

Those medications are not necessary for the symptoms that you

describe. I know it is hard and painful but detoxing is very hard.

Try and hang in there.

Phyllis

>

> Hi Bee,

> I had another horrific night and did some research on the internet

> about my problem with burning sensations in my legs, chest and arms.

> It looks like some sort of neuropathy or paresthesia. I am seeing a

> naturopathic doctor today and from our conversation, he believes it is

> an auto immune disorder. All natural healing methods go along with

> your diet and supplements but there are a few conventioanal drugs that

> would help like Elevil or Neurontin. My question is, can we still